I'm running version 2.2 in Ubuntu Breezy Badger, and Synaptic tells me
2.2 is the latest, when it's clear that 2.6 is the current stable.
Any Debian/Ubuntu gurus care to tell me what steps to take to manually
upgrade? I'm stuck with a version that still notates maj7 chords as "M"
chords, so I nee
Gilles wrote:
> And . . . also . . . : Blank spaces at the
> beginning or end of double-quoted strings are trimmed.
That's true. To get spaces between non-space \markup items you can write
things like
\markup { "foo" \hspace #10 "bar" }
That trick doesn't work for getting spaces at the e
With the word-space override you suggest (below), that means that your
comment of a few weeks ago that it _might_ be desirable to redefine
\char #
to produce a utf-8 byte string is true: this would in fact be useful for
people who need, infrequently, to insert various odd special characters
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:
> That's great. Please jour the development team. We warmly welcome
^join
Jan.
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Linda Seltzer writes:
> My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional
> experience and expertise.
That's great. Please jour the development team. We warmly welcome
anyone with a gripe who wants to spend time on fixing it. It help if
she hase lots of expertise, but time spent
Linda Seltzer wrote:
For example, if one is running on a Windows
environment, one should not have to install another editor and worry about
getting that to work, and the outputs should be easily usable and readable
by other programs without having to install other kinds of programs and
accessori
Hi!
I'm likewise a non-geek who has appreciated lilypond for what it can do
for me. I have been transcribing hymns and worship songs for somewhat
over a year now, and really enjoying it.
What I've found works best, for those of us who don't understand all the
syntax and other features of t
As a regular user of Sibelius and Lilypond I can safely say that Lilypond
tends to come out on top.
Sibelius while a very beautiful and attractive program GUI wise, it is let
down by this very fact! (same as Finale). Sibelius cannot make adjustments
on the fly as each note or lyric is inputted. Si
On 5-Jan-06, at 6:15 PM, Hans Forbrich wrote:
I see value in the discussion, but also a serious distraction for the
primary
developers. Is it worth taking this offline?
...
You want to have an offline private email discussion group? Count me
in! :)
Cheers,
- Graham
On 5-Jan-06, at 5:22 PM, Linda Seltzer wrote:
For example, if one is running on a Windows
environment, one should not have to install another editor and worry
about
getting that to work, and the outputs should be easily usable and
readable
by other programs without having to install other ki
I see value in the discussion, but also a serious distraction for the primary
developers. Is it worth taking this offline?
It's easy enough to create a private discussion group (invitation only, no
spam scrapers - we hope).
Let me know (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Linda Seltzer wrote:
My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional experience
and expertise.
I prefer to take any input on face-value. FWIW, we have had lots
valuable feedback from people that are anything but experienced or
professional.
I would also state that developme
My input *is* informative and is based on years of professional experience
and expertise.
I would also state that development efforts are helped tremendously if a
specialist in user interface design evaluates development every step of
the way. The most successful development projects in industry
Linda Seltzer wrote:
would disagree, let alone generate a flame war. I have seen multi-million
projects go down the drain because the management didn't pay attention to
issues such as marketing or the user experience.
And of course, lily will also go this route, as the development team
never
User Experience engineering does not require a GUI or an abandonment of the
programming and typesetting approach. It does not require the abandonment
of providing detailed features. What it requires is that the language
and documentation are clear and that functionality doesn't require time-
cons
Another one...
My Mac used to run Linux PPC and MacOS Classic parallely (MoL) until
finally MacOS X came out.
I just *need* the features of some Unix (tools, shell etc.) plus the
features of a nice GUI.
I studied typesetter and I do most of my layout work with InDesign,
because it's best
> Byte Order Mark is only applicable to UTF-16. There's no such thing
> as an editor that puts a Byte Order Mark in UTF-8.
This is not correct. UTF-8 can also start with BOM. The same is true
for UTF-32.
Werner
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> such as Notepad and Word on Windows, with everything bug free,
hmm...
lilypond + MS Word?
file.ly.doc?
Basic instead of Scheme?
strange... 8-/
/ak/
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On 1/2/06, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 2006-01-02 um 12:43 schrieb liang seng:
>
> > Hi, I'm using Lilypond 2.7.x series for Windows 98 and I would like
> > to know how can we input special characters into Lilypond using
> > standard word editors like Notepad? I would like to pu
Dear Linda,
I whole-heartedly agree with your comments about user experience being very
important to adoption of any user-oriented computing product.
One problem with GUIs is that they MUST be tailored to the way the user wants
to, or needs to be trained to, work. Thus, the challenge becomes p
Nobody can help? Am I facing bugs that I should report on the bug reports
list?
Original Message Follows
From: "Amélie Aubut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Problems with gregorian neumes ligatures
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:13:32 +0100
Hello,
I am a beginner a
On 5-Jan-2006, at 12:54 PM, Linda Seltzer wrote:
A smooth user interface employing the standard already-debugged
platforms,
such as Notepad and Word on Windows, with everything bug free, is more
important than more and more detailed features, which can be added
later.
A smooth user interf
Dear Friends,
Having previously worked at AT&T Labs, where I was a member of the User
Experience Forum, I would like to make a few comments as a relative
outsider seeing the Lilypond project for the first time. This is a great
endeavor and the software output is beautiful.
I would greatly encour
Linda Seltzer wrote:
Dear Friends,
Having previously worked at AT&T Labs, where I was a member of the User
Experience Forum, I would like to make a few comments as a relative
outsider seeing the Lilypond project for the first time. This is a great
endeavor and the software output is beautiful.
Ray wrote:
Through the tutorial I quickly gained fluency in the make up of an .ly file,
but I found that as the file got larger it got harder and harder to keep track
of. Furthermore, when any kind of bug appeared it was almost impossible to
sleuth out...as there is almost no documentation (that
Hello.
>
> I would greatly encourage the project to focus on the user interface and
> the user experience if this is to catch on in a large way.
>
> Having to install separate editors (and who knows what bugs that will
> bring and what other mailing lists one will have to subscribe to...) or
> g
Sent by Mats (wrong list again) :
Your example works well with the latest stable version, 2.6.5,
maybe it's a bug in your particular version.
Actually, the default seems to be that the brackets are not printed
when there is a beam of the same lenght as the triplet, so in your
example you get exa
Hi Eduardo!
> I'm messing with some scores I download in order to learn more about
> Lilypond, but I still can't grasp how to use minimumVerticalExtent.
What you're looking for changed from Lily-version 2.6 to 2.7.
Unfortunately I have no example right at hand and I'm a little short-timed
at the
Sorry, the first version of the template contained some untranslated
leftovers from my German version and thus won't work.
Greetlings from Lake Constance
---
fiëé visuëlle
Henning Hraban Ramm
http://www.fiee.net
http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
\version "
Am 2006-01-05 um 05:54 schrieb Ray:
Alternatively, additional templates might be nice, ones
that address non-classical music forms.
Here's a two-voices-with-lyrics-and-chords template for you.
(It's public domain, use and distribute at will.)
3. A dictionary of syntax codes, linked (again) d
Same issue than the previous message :)
Ludovic Sardain wrote:
>Thank you very much. I now use the version 2.7.19, and it works.
>
>Thanks again
>
>Ludovic
>
>2006/1/5, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>>Your example works well with the latest stable version, 2.6.5,
>>maybe it's a bug in
This message has been sent on the wrong list...
(thread on lily-user, not lily-user-fr)
Ludovic Sardain wrote:
>I send you an example of what I tried. I use lilypond 2.7.8:
>
>\version "2.7.8"
>
>
>
>global = {
>
> \key f \minor
>
> \time 4/4
> \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 05:15 pm, Stephen Torri wrote:
> Is there a feature in lilypond for doing what is called "strum
> notation"? I am looking for something which will let me write down the
> strumming pattern for a variety of worship songs to help aid learning
> the song. Often I find hear
On 5-Jan-2006, at 1:31 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
David Rogers wrote:
On 3-Jan-2006, at 5:26 PM, Bernard Hurley wrote:
Hi all,
The header field "texttranslator" is mentioned in the Lilypond
documentation for version 2.7.27 but doesn't seem to do anything!
Some headers are available bu
First off, I think Lilypond is amazing and I had very few problems installing
it or using it, despite a relatively limited musical knowledge. I'm an
amateur songwriter with no ambitions of ever going pro but wanted to print out
my music as a gift for my mom at Christmas. We're talking very simple
Okay. Thanks again for your help in this.
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On 1/5/06, bbarros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> How can we put a "complete" tuplet ratio with brackets in a score,
> like
> |---10:7--|
>
> not only "10", bur "10:7" with brackets.
> I looked in the documentation without success.
>
> Than
Please read the manual for version 2.7, in this particular case it should
be relevant also to version 2.6.
/Mats
bbarros wrote:
Hi list,
How can we put a "complete" tuplet ratio with brackets in a score,
like |---10:7--|
not only "10", bur "
Am 2006-01-05 um 10:31 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
The header field "texttranslator" is mentioned in the Lilypond
documentation for version 2.7.27 but doesn't seem to do anything!
Some headers are available but not printed by default. On my
machine, the default setup is found in
.../share/lilypon
liang seng wrote:
Hi, thank you. That did the trick.
I would like to know if after the second stanza stops and there are
many bars of music before the second stanza resumes, I can still use
the spacer note trick to keep it "alive"? Say the gap is 20 bars, I
would have put something like s*2
Stephen Torri wrote:
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:44 +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
- example #1 -
This one uses a specific head for notes and uses typical timings (e.g.
quarter notes). The direction of strumming up or down is done by a
character above the note. This would be used on a staf
Hello list,
I'm messing with some scores I download in order to
learn more about Lilypond, but I still can't grasp how to use
minimumVerticalExtent.
I'm trying to adjust the spacing of lyrics between
stanzas and staves.
Changing the values of the pair of numbers for the
minimumVerticalExtent
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:44 +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > - example #1 -
> > This one uses a specific head for notes and uses typical timings (e.g.
> > quarter notes). The direction of strumming up or down is done by a
> > character above the note. This would be used on a staff.
> > ht
Stephen Torri wrote:
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 02:04 +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
So I am looking for a notation that tells me to strum either up or down
for a certain period of time. For example strum down once per beat in a
4/4 time.
what does strum notation look like?
Well I have found a
Hi list,How can we put a "complete" tuplet ratio with brackets in a score,like |---10:7--|not only "10", bur "10:7" with brackets.
I looked in the documentation without success.Thanks,Bern2006/1/5, Ludovic Sardain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:Hello,I'd like
Clearly it works in the Regressions test example you refer to, so if you
need
more help I recommend you to send a (small but complete) example of what
you tried yourself, to the mailing list. Also, tell what LilyPond
version you use.
/Mats
Ludovic Sardain wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to remove
Hi, thank you. That did the trick.
I would like to know if after the second stanza stops and there are many
bars of music before the second stanza resumes, I can still use the spacer
note trick to keep it "alive"? Say the gap is 20 bars, I would have put
something like s*22 to encompass the end
The following alternative to Gilles' solution is more close to your original
example:
<<
\new Staff <<
% Keep the context "other" alive during the score:
\context Voice = other {\voiceOne s1*3}
\context Voice = "melody" \relative c' {
<< \context Voice = other { g4 a b4 }
Hello,
I'd like to remove the tuplets brackets on a score, and I just don't
find in the documentation nor in the list's archives how to do that. I
thought that I found something in the page
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/input/regression/collated-files.html
but the command "\override TupletBrack
Hello.
>
> The problem I've had with that is that when I define
>
> eaigu = ""
>
> and then (later) say
>
> \markup "sym" \eaigu "trique"
>
> what I get in the PDF file is
>
> sym é trique
>
> because Lilypond inserts a space between any two markup components.
>
I noticed t
David Rogers wrote:
On 3-Jan-2006, at 5:26 PM, Bernard Hurley wrote:
Hi all,
The header field "texttranslator" is mentioned in the Lilypond
documentation for version 2.7.27 but doesn't seem to do anything!
Some headers are available but not printed by default. On my machine,
the defau
Moral: Whenever you ask a question or answer a question, please always tell
what LilyPond version you use.
The corresponding examples can also be found in the "Tips and Tricks"
document for version LilyPond 2.6. The examples are called "extra-staff.ly"
and "ossia.ly", respectively.
/Mats
gacl
On 4-Jan-06, at 9:12 PM, gacl (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
I appreciate the offer but I can't afford it. Maybe there is a
work-around? See, I have some sheets with beginner's music that fits
really well the 4 measures per line format, but on this one piece, I
have one measure all by itself and
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