Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Scott
Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Hello, Paul: How do your inner definitions help this? Example? Consider the 'A' section from my "Upside-Down Rag" (slightly simplified for this example), which is of the form abac: If I was not clear my question was what your idea had to do with separating ti

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Re: Midi repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Warren Stickney
Hi Alberto, If what you want is to have the paper output folded and the midi output unfolded, then you can use separate score blocks within the one file for each purpose. For example use something like: \score { \notes \context ChoirStaff = All << \Soprano

Re: More lyrics questions/comments

2004-01-15 Thread Carl Youngblood
I need to revise my statement. I was able to add an extender to a note with a rest after it, as long as I didn't use the addlyrics mode. There doesn't appear to be a way to do this in addlyrics mode. Carl On Jan 15, 2004, at 10:16 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote: On Jan 10, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Nick

Re: More lyrics questions/comments

2004-01-15 Thread Carl Youngblood
On Jan 10, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Nick Busigin wrote: There are situations in my lyrics when I want to put something like an extender, but not really. I just want to put a line after a word to show that I want it held for the full value of the note. Sort of a gentle reminder. However, extensions, do

Re: \oneVoice bug (was "staccato oddity")

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Han-Wen: yep, fixed in CVS. Excellent. (Did you just change property-init.ly, or something in the app? Or, asked a more proactive way, how can I access CVS to see where you made your changes?) Thanks, Kieren. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [E

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 2.1.8

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Scott
Pedro Kroger wrote: * Paul Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Again, Feri's deb installs a working version, Could you try the new version in my website? (2.1.9-2) Up and running! Thanks. What did you change? Paul ___ Lilypond-user mailing li

Re: license, was: example files

2004-01-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:31:09 +0100 (MET) Alexander Deubelbeiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:14:24 -0500 (EST), Nick Busigin wrote: > > While we are on the topic of examples, my wife and I would be interested > > in contributing a complete lead sheet example. However, we don'

Re: PDF file problems after upgrading to 2.1.6

2004-01-15 Thread Nick Busigin
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Nick Busigin wrote: > I upgraded one of my computers to run lilypond version 2.1.6 last night > and ran into a problem with the generated PDF files. Most of the text > disappears. I get the following message after exiting the xpdf viewer: > > Error: This document uses Ty

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 2.1.8

2004-01-15 Thread Pedro Kroger
* Paul Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Could you try the new version in my website? (2.1.9-2) > > > Up and running! Thanks. What did you change? guess what, pentium optimizations, like Jan suggested! Pedro ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 2.1.8

2004-01-15 Thread Pedro Kroger
* Jan Nieuwenhuizen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > lilypond-bin was not complied using special pentium-foo gcc > optimisations, I hope? err it was! I had optimisation flags in my .bashrc and forgot about them. Needless to say, compiling lily without the pentium optimisation flags solved the pro

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 15 January 2004 11:18, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > Hello, Alberto: > > if we write repetitions on the music (and if the composer wrote > > them) it means we want to repeat them. Why to add a new command to > > unfold them? > > It's really just a short hand for editing purposes Ex

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 15 January 2004 17.58, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > Paul: > > I think as a programmer I agree with David that the macro/definitions > > are easier to find done the regular way. > > I would certainly hope that, if my proposal were adopted, it would not > eliminate the existing syste

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Alberto: if we write repetitions on the music (and if the composer wrote them) it means we want to repeat them. Why to add a new command to unfold them? It's really just a short hand for editing purposes, at least as I've used it so far. For example, when defining line breaks, rather tha

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 15 January 2004 11:54, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > One main reason not to include the repetitions by default is that > the MIDI generation in LilyPond is mainly intended for "proof > reading" a score. The ambition has never been to make a fullfledged > sequencer with professional MIDI outpu

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 2.1.8

2004-01-15 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Paul Scott writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/pima$ lilypond-bin --version > Illegal instruction You should check the md5sum of your lilypond-bins. lilypond-bin was not complied using special pentium-foo gcc optimisations, I hope? If that does not help, try reinstalling all library packages th

Re: Automatic reformatting \notes section utility?

2004-01-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 15 January 2004 14:49, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > Hello, Mats: > > Amazing how often one and the same question pops up several times > > during the same week. Did you see the following mail (with > > followups)? > > http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-01/msg00338.

Re: Automatic reformatting \notes section utility?

2004-01-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Amazing how often one and the same question pops up several times during the same week. Did you see the following mail (with followups)? http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-01/msg00338.html /Mats Nick Busigin wrote: I am wondering if there is a utility to reformat a \note{} block

Re: Automatic reformatting \notes section utility?

2004-01-15 Thread Nick Busigin
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > > Amazing how often one and the same question pops up several times > > during the same week. Did you see the following mail (with followups)? > > http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-01/msg00338.html > > Actually, if you read

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 15 January 2004 20.55, Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: > In the other hand, to unfold them makes the paper output to be unfolded > too :( > There is a dirty trick: 1. Put your notes in their own file (say notes.ly, which puts all the notes of your score into the variable YourNote

Re: PDF editing [WAS: praise (and a sample)]

2004-01-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > making sure those weird > "doublings" (e.g., staff-edge bar lines, clefs, and time signatures) > are weeded out, etc. fixed in CVS. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
One main reason not to include the repetitions by default is that the MIDI generation in LilyPond is mainly intended for "proof reading" a score. The ambition has never been to make a fullfledged sequencer with professional MIDI output. /Mats Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: Hi I found http

Re: lyrics, NoteEdit and Lilypond2.0.2

2004-01-15 Thread Joerg Anders
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Suzanne E. Blatt wrote: > Now it runs, BUT ! my lyrics are stuck on the quarter beat of my 4/4 bars. ... ... please remove the \property Voice.autoBeaming = ##f statement. Apparently something has changed here in LilyPond-2.x If this works and if you are at the

Re: Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
There's actually a dirty trick to typeset the full title in several consecutive \score{...} sections in the same file. Just include the following text markup on some note in the first score ^"\\gdef\\mustmakelilypondtitle{}" However, it triggers a LaTeX error that I'm not competent enough to solve,

Re: 2.1.7-3!!

2004-01-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I can't remember I changed anything in that, except for the > > combination with ledgers. > > No, it's the same as it's always been (at least since I joined, ca > v1.8) -- I've *always* found the first accidental too close (esp. > naturals). Oh, ok. I suppose the

Re: how far can/should abstraction be taken?

2004-01-15 Thread c10221
hi kieren, > a. Cue notes are "presentation" information, really (mostly!?), as they > would exist in a part but not necessarily in a score -- how best to > include them? > b. Certain tweaks might be dependent upon layout (e.g., line breaks > might affect placement, voice combinations would affect

Re: PDF editing [WAS: praise (and a sample)]

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Han-Wen: making sure those weird "doublings" [...] are weeded out, etc. fixed in CVS. Just in case I forgot to say it, thanks! Kieren. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Paul: I think as a programmer I agree with David that the macro/definitions are easier to find done the regular way. I would certainly hope that, if my proposal were adopted, it would not eliminate the existing system or preclude its use, but rather augment it for those of us who would prefer th

Re: how far can/should abstraction be taken?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, sb: "Different Editions from one score" in the manual. I quickly saw it a while ago, but thanks for pointing me back to it -- I think with a combination of that mechanism and some fancy block-separation footwork, I can have all the abstraction and flexibility I could need or imagine! I'

Re: MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
In the other hand, to unfold them makes the paper output to be unfolded too :( But, as it is at the moment, I think lilypond can only win having midi output :) Alb On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 16:54, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > One main reason not to include the repetitions by default is that > the MIDI ge

Re: Automatic reformatting \notes section utility?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Mats: Amazing how often one and the same question pops up several times during the same week. Did you see the following mail (with followups)? http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-01/msg00338.html Actually, if you read closely, I believe Nick is asking something slightly dif

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Re: Automatic reformatting \notes section utility?

2004-01-15 Thread Nick Busigin
Hi Matt, You misunderstood what I asked for, probably because I didn't phrase my question as well as I should have. I am interested in re-formatting my lilypond source (.ly) files, not the output. Nick On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Amazing how

Re: Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You can always do \header{ title = "\\newpage The Title" } to add a page break before the new title. If your score spans more than a single page per player, you probably want to run the resulting PS file through psselect to rearrange the page order afterwards. /Mats Alberto Simoes wrote: Hi a

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 2.1.8

2004-01-15 Thread Pedro Kroger
* Paul Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Again, Feri's deb installs a working version, Could you try the new version in my website? (2.1.9-2) Pedro ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 2.1.9

2004-01-15 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 15 January 2004 02.11, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Binary packages of LilyPond 2.1.9 for Debian Woody are available at > > http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/lilypond > > The previous 2.1.6 conditions apply with respect to the > geometry LaTeX package. > > Does anybody find announcements like thi

\oneVoice bug (was "staccato oddity")

2004-01-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [ Mac OS X 10.2.8; Lilypond 2.1.7-3 (via Fink) ] > > Hello, all -- > > Turns out \oneVoice (the pre-defined property) looks like this in > property-init.ly: > > % dynamic ly:dir? text script, articulation script ly:dir? > oneVoice = #(context-spec-music (make-vo

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Scott
Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Hello, Paul: If I was not clear my question was what your idea had to do with separating time information (in global) from the notes in other sections. You didn't mention time signature in your hew example. The mention of time signatures in my original post was

Re: beam change in 2.1.9

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2.1.9 introduces the following: fixed in CVS. Thanks for another amazing example of the power of open source. My classic example is when the maintainer of the Linux Documentation Project changed the whole site because I mentioned some

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Paul: If I was not clear my question was what your idea had to do with separating time information (in global) from the notes in other sections. You didn't mention time signature in your hew example. The mention of time signatures in my original post was just as one example of many possi

\oneVoice bug (was "staccato oddity")

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
[ Mac OS X 10.2.8; Lilypond 2.1.7-3 (via Fink) ] Hello, all -- Turns out \oneVoice (the pre-defined property) looks like this in property-init.ly: % dynamic ly:dir? text script, articulation script ly:dir? oneVoice = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-revert) 'Voice) Does that mean t

Re: 2.1.7-3!!

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Han-Wen: I think in both respects 2.1 looks better than 2.0. I would agree -- that is, while neither is "optimal" (to my eye), 2.1 errs more pleasingly than 2.0... ;-) If you like you can experiment a little for yourself, the property that was changed is beamed-extreme-minimum-free-len

beam change in 2.1.9

2004-01-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 2.1.9 introduces the following: fixed in CVS. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypon

Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 2.1.9

2004-01-15 Thread Pedro Kroger
* Ferenc Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Does anybody find announcements like this actually useful? > Isn't apt-get update or similar enough? Shall I continue > spamming the list? should we send the announcements to the info-lilypond list instead? Pedro

MIDI repetition

2004-01-15 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
Hi I found http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/test/out-www/lily-429032051.ly, the example for unfolding repeats, and it works (great!) My question is: if we write repetitions on the music (and if the composer wrote them) it means we want to repeat them. Why to add a new command to unfold them? Wou

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Paul: How do your inner definitions help this? Example? Consider the 'A' section from my "Upside-Down Rag" (slightly simplified for this example), which is of the form abac: rh = \notes \relative c' { e16 g,8 e'16 g,8 e'16 a,~ a4~ a16 ( -.) ~ 8 4~ 8 fs16( f) e1

Re: "inline" (scoped) definitions?

2004-01-15 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, David: In your example, you are illustrating an editing task. It would be quicker to copy the notes, even if there were a lot more of them. My example was a straight repetition, certainly, but in concept I was imagining uses far beyond that... Imagine, for just one example, if the set we

lyrics, NoteEdit and Lilypond2.0.2

2004-01-15 Thread Suzanne E. Blatt
Hello. I just rebuilt my NoteEdit and Lilypond 2.0.2 on SUSE 9 after having some problems getting it running. Now it runs, BUT ! my lyrics are stuck on the quarter beat of my 4/4 bars. I have eigth notes which are not getting their lyric attached to them properly. I haven't found anything in

Re: example files (was "Re: SATB 2-staff template and request for suggestions")

2004-01-15 Thread donald_j_axel
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:06:30 -0500 Kieren Richard MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, for my own learning curve -- especially when I'm a newbie in > some field -- I find it useful to see "real-world" examples, which > almost by definition will include tens (if not hundreds) of > tip

Re: Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is what I'm trying to do (I have two score blocks) but the title > appears only one time. Ah, right. You might have to have the score blocks in separate files (and \include the music file itself). -- Arvid

Re: Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 11:21, Arvid Grøtting wrote: > Alberto Simoes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi all. > > For typesetting four hand music I would like to repeat the title info on > > primo and second staves. Is this possible (and how) with lilypond? > > I'm just guessing here, and I'm not

Re: Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Alberto Simoes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all. > For typesetting four hand music I would like to repeat the title info on > primo and second staves. Is this possible (and how) with lilypond? I'm just guessing here, and I'm not a piano player at all, but wouldn't it be reasonable to view the

Repeating title

2004-01-15 Thread Alberto Simoes
Hi all. For typesetting four hand music I would like to repeat the title info on primo and second staves. Is this possible (and how) with lilypond? Other nice thing could be to add a \newpage before it, but I still can't find the right place where this command works Thanks. Alberto -- Departamen