was constructive criticism now tremolo revisited

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
Hi again, I mentioned that in the tremolo example the \repeat "tremolo" 4 c16 doesn't work. I made a simple file with one measure. I added the tremolo example from the doc page: % Generated automatically by: lilypond-book.py % options are filename=/home/hanwen/usr/src/savannah/lily/li

Problem with lyrics

2004-01-08 Thread Carl Youngblood
Hello, In the following source I'm having a problem with lyrics lining up with the right notes. After "fear", which starts on an eighth note, I want to display an extender, but it isn't getting shown, which causes the rest of the lyrics to be off by one note. Here is the source. I'm using v

Questions regarding tempo indications

2004-01-08 Thread Carl Youngblood
How can I make the quarter note for the tempo indication smaller? I'm not sure what object property to modify. Also, I want to provide a tempo range, such as \tempo 4 = 84-92, but it croaks when I try to add stuff after the first number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Carl Youngblood sm

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The "manual with comments" format might still help you, >> though. Whenever you take a documentation-day before a >> release, you could review the new comments, and >> incorporate good suggestions into the docs. It lowers >> the barrier for users,

Re: Rhythm slashes instead of notes

2004-01-08 Thread Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the change in slash size from 2.1.2 to 2.1.6 which I see from the regression tests works for percussion parts but used to be the standard distance between two lines for rhythm slashes. I guess this can be set to what we need also?

Re: Rhythm slashes instead of notes

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >>What about the change in slash size from 2.1.2 to 2.1.6 which I see from > >>the regression tests works for percussion parts but used to be the > >>standard distance between two lines for rhythm slas

was constructive criticism now tremolo revisited

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I mentioned that in the tremolo example the > > \repeat "tremolo" 4 c16 > > doesn't work. > > When I run lilypond on it I get: > > /home/aamehl/asimple.ly:18:23: warning: Chord tremolo with 1 elements. Must have two > elements.: > { \repeat "tremolo" 4

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2004-01-08 Thread Paul
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Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Nick Busigin
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > The step from basic to advanced user is clearly a major threshold but > does not involve learning all about Scheme but rather to learn the > mechanisms to set properties and the syntax used. The sections on > "Setting Variables" and "Fine Tuning layout"

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
how much space/bandwidth would be involved? I wouldn't know how to set it up by myself but I do have some space. Aaron ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: violin finger

2004-01-08 Thread Bryan Koschmann - GKT
Hi, Thank you for that information. Jan also pointed out that it was under "Articulation" in the 1.6 Docs. I'm not sure why I didn't look under there (I had never checked the 1.8) but it works just as needed. My only excuse is the sinus medication I'm on :) Thank you both! Bryan On Thu,

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread François Pinard
[John Williams] > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > Why not edit the texinfo source directly, and send a patch? > You are asking the users to learn texinfo, diff and patch before they > can help you. And as someone else pointed out, if they install a prebuilt > version, they don't even have the texinfo

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > Why not edit the texinfo source directly, and send a patch? > > You are asking the users to learn texinfo, diff and patch before they > can help you. And as someone else pointed out, if they install a prebuilt > version, they don't even have

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread John Williams
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Why not edit the texinfo source directly, and send a patch? You are asking the users to learn texinfo, diff and patch before they can help you. And as someone else pointed out, if they install a prebuilt version, they don't even have the texinfo source. (Personally, gnu

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
Hi I saw the format for the new tremolo section and it is indeed clearer. Since I didn't understand a word about how to update the documents. I need a link that will show me how I get access etc. As I see it Seealso becomes In this manual intenals examples I looked at few examples and see how it

Re: Rhythm slashes instead of notes

2004-01-08 Thread Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nick Busigin wrote: Is there a way of placing rhythm marks (slashes) on a staff instead of notes? melie Zapf provided this but: 1. The part that sets the stem length to zero doesn't work. Setting it to transparent is more effective, I

v2.1.6 corrects bass clef print problem

2004-01-08 Thread Stan Sanderson
I would like to report that v2.1.6 corrected a problem with printing the bass clef on certain printers. With v.2.0.1, an unidentifiable artifact was included at the top of the clef grob when printed, e.g., on a Brother laser printer. It did not appear when printed with a HP laser. I assume it h

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > First of all I agree that add work for the maintainer of lilypond is in > the long run a very bad idea. > Making Hans fiddle with the docs means less improvement to the program > that said. > > There are many levels to improving the docs. Some issues are infact > rea

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all I agree that add work for the maintainer of lilypond is in the long run a very bad idea. Making Hans fiddle with the docs means less improvement to the program that said. There are many levels to improving the docs. Some issues a

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >this is intentional, but I can understand that it is confusing. > > > >I've updated the tremolo entry of the manual with links. I've also > >changed the SEEALSO section like this > > > > In this manual: *Tremolo subdivisions::, *Note Repeats::. > > > > Inter

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is intentional, but I can understand that it is confusing. I've updated the tremolo entry of the manual with links. I've also changed the SEEALSO section like this In this manual: *Tremolo subdivisions::, *Note Repeats::. Interna

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Come to think of it, this form of \with is superfluous. It is possible to write it with something like \apply #(nest-props '((Stem thickness 4) (Slur transparent #t))) { .. } Very nice. Well, yes except for the syntax. Definitely something t

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ferenc Wagner writes: > >> Bugreports are not the best way to improve documentation, > > For the developers, they are. I humbly find it unfair that you didn't quote the clause: >> unless the reporter literally includes the piece of text >> she want

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > and then we use > > > > \translator Staff = up { > > \consists ".." > > Stem \override #'thickness = #4 > > Slur \override #'transparent = ##t > > } ..music.. > > Then why not use \apply #up-staff-properties { .. } here? because the properties ne

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > Come to think of it, this form of \with is superfluous. It is possible > to write it with something like > > \apply #(nest-props '((Stem thickness 4) (Slur transparent #t))) >{ .. } Very nice. > and then we use > > \translator Staff = up { > \consists ".."

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'm OK with everything, as long as it improves the documentation *and* > > decreases the time that I have to spend on it. In practice, this means > > that I don't want to setup the site, monitor it, get the patches, or > > edit the text. This means that in the end, so

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm not convinced! Since the curly braces are used for so many > different purposes, I think it's much harder to detect the '}' > that ends a certain set of property settings than to find the > \revert command. If you think the setting and reverting involves > too much t

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I also sketched a slightly more elaborate instruction in > an email some months ago, thinking that it might a good > addition to the manual but haven't yet received any > response on if it is useful or not. Hey Mats, that *really* was a wonderful piece

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A first step to improve the usability of the "programmer reference" > (which in my opinion is a misnomer) It's called program reference; suggestions for better names appreciated. > would be to give more explicit > explanations of the possible values for each property.

Re: Rhythm slashes instead of notes

2004-01-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Nick Busigin wrote: > > >Is there a way of placing rhythm marks (slashes) on a staff instead of > >notes? There is a bar in one of my lead sheets where there is no > >melody, but there are some chords shown as names above the staff. I'd > >like to have slashes on the s

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2004-01-08 Thread Blue Reed
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Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have often clicked a link to find more about a subject instead of infact finding more about that subject I find scheme stuff. These issues are not exactly bugs but style issues and matters of opinion, ie a programmer will think that more information about tremolos should be the scheme stuff,

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Indeed that would be great if \with could be used inside a existing context: \context Staff { BLI \with { Stem \set #'thickness = #4 } { BLA } BLU } I'm not convinced! Since the curly braces are used for so many different purposes, I think it's much har

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Ferenc Wagner writes: > Bugreports are not the best way to improve documentation, For the developers, they are. > It is more work (and more effort) than typing the > same text straight into the documentation you are reading. That may be a bit less work for the reporter, but it is much more work

Re: violin finger

2004-01-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Bryan Koschmann writes: > Is there a way to print fingerings on a sheet (1, 2 ,3, 4,)? I'm using > Lilypond 1.7.16. Dou you mean like: gis-3 a-4 See also: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v1.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Articulations.html http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.1/Doc

Re: violin finger

2004-01-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you look in the index of the reference manual (since you use 1.7.16, I looked at the manual for 1.8 which is the closest match to your version available on-line), you will find an entry "fingering" that points to http://lilypond.org/doc/v1.8/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Fingering-instruct

Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-08 Thread Aaron
First of all I agree that add work for the maintainer of lilypond is in the long run a very bad idea. Making Hans fiddle with the docs means less improvement to the program that said. There are many levels to improving the docs. Some issues are infact really bugs: The doc says do x but it does