Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: > The beginnings of the manuals. In my restructuring, that's now in > macros.itexi, although this may well move to a third macro file. > Hmm, I just noticed that the copyright years are messed up... I'll > fix that fairly soon. Brilliant. So as far as the docs are concerne

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 10-09-2009 om 23:47 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Graham Percival: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:37:46PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > > On 9/10/09 4:02 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 06:04:17PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > Yes, but then the FS

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Carl Sorensen wrote: > Amen to that. If only they had made some kind of an accomodation clause > that would have allowed projects with mixed v2 and v3 licenses to go > forward, as long as the v3 license terms were followed on the combined > package (e.g. no tivoization, and following the patent st

[PATCH] Doc: copyright/licensing notice for contemporary music section.

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
This one IS for inclusion in the main source tree, unless there is a problem with it. :-) I'll be adding the same licensing notice to all files in the docs unless anyone objects. (Debian-related comments particularly welcome.) For COPYRIGHT notices I will take longer and try and identify concret

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/9/11 Francisco Vila : >> Those stats are very old now. > > They are now up to date, just in case. > > http://paconet.org/lilypond-statistics/ Thanks very much for this! :-) It leads to the question -- already in mind from browsing the git log -- who is 'fred'? Ther

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 00:24 +0200, Joseph Wakeling a écrit : > But anyway, I'm willing to do the typing side of it. I just need you to > clarify exactly what I should put: presumably GPLv2 for code files and > GFDLv1.1 for docs are the base licenses, but would you and Jan approve > putting

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 11. September 2009 11:14:39 schrieb Joseph Wakeling: > Francisco Vila wrote: > > 2009/9/11 Francisco Vila : > >> Those stats are very old now. > > > > They are now up to date, just in case. > > > > http://paconet.org/lilypond-statistics/ >

Unsecure assoc calls (was: Make default margin values depend on paper size)

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Carl, (was it your intention to discuss this off-list? I ask because you didn't cc the list for the last two times.) Hmmm -- I see your point. Without looking into the code for each of those grep results, I couldn't answer. But assoc-get is defined in LilyPond, and was certainly recommended

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi all, I've just removed some code from page.scm that becomes obsolete through the patch. I would be really happy if somebody could test this for regressions. The problem is that for me it takes more than 12 hours to run a "make doc" and for this time I can't do anything other. (Just to give

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/9/11 Reinhold Kainhofer : > FWIW, I've now added a .mailcap file, so names like "wl" or "Andrew Hawyluk" > or > "Carl Sorensen" should now be combined with the correct names "Werner > Lemberg", "Andrew Hawryluk" and "Carl D. Sorensen". > > So "git shortlog" or "git shortlog -s" should now giv

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/9/11 Reinhold Kainhofer : > So "git shortlog" or "git shortlog -s" should now give less contributors and a > better overview. Please add Francisco Vila Francisco Vila so that Paco Vila gets redirected to me (that is the purpose of the file as I understand it) Other issues could arise

Re: shortcut for creating new Staff "subclass" context?

2009-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Dan, it looks like "\Voice" starts you off with a copy of the previously defined Voice settings. If "\Voice" is absent, you start from scratch. The context settings are saved by name. If you do not change the name, the modified settings replace the previous settings of the \Voice cont

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-11 Thread Travis Briggs
I have a lot of experience with Apache Ant, so I'd be willing to help out too. -Travis On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > > On 9/10/09 3:10 PM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > >> Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 19:53 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : >>> The most important two fa

Re: Unsecure assoc calls (was: Make default margin values depend on paper size)

2009-09-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/11/09 3:52 AM, "Michael Käppler" wrote: > Hi Carl, > (was it your intention to discuss this off-list? I ask because you > didn't cc the list for the last two times.) No, I made a mistake the first time, and the second time I replied all to your email that replied to mine. >> Hmmm -- I s

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:14:39AM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > It leads to the question -- already in mind from browsing the git log -- > who is 'fred'? Please get into the habit of searching -devel before asking such questions. The answer is on the top 10 results for "fred" on a lilypond-dev

Re: Overview of copyright issues

2009-09-11 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <1252655677.8830.236.ca...@heerbeest>, Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes Op donderdag 10-09-2009 om 23:47 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Graham Percival: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:37:46PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 9/10/09 4:02 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2009

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-11 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Carl, Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 16:25 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > I'd be willing to give a hand if I can. I read your wiki page, but didn't > get anything from it in terms of how I could help. Give me a ping if you > get to the point that you can carve out some kind of task for me to t

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Carl, LY_DEFINE (ly_assoc_get, "ly:assoc-get", 2, 1, 0, This line is wrong; you need to have the total of these three numbers be the total number of arguments. Yes, I forgot to adjust this. If you change this to 2, 2, 0, then strict-checking will be an optional argument,

Re: [PATCH] Doc: copyright/licensing notice for contemporary music section.

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
I'll examine this in a day or two; I'm still sorting out basic issues about how to live on the other side of the Atlantic. Cheers, - Graham On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:02:56AM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > This one IS for inclusion in the main source tree, unless there is a > problem with it. :-

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-11 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/11 Michael Käppler : > Attached is the revised version. Okay to apply? There are a few problems with this: You need to amend the definition of the method in lily-guile.hh, since it's also used directly in the C++ code, with no optional arguments: 53 SCM ly_assoc_get (SCM key, SCM alist,

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/11 Michael Käppler : > Hi all, > I've just removed some code from page.scm that becomes obsolete through the > patch. Just a few comments: Can you rebase your changes in paper-defaults-init.ly so they don't revert the changes made since your original patch? The regression test would proba

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:10 PM What would be good is if as many contributors as possible can reply to this email just to OK (i) my putting copyright/licensing notices in the files they have contributed to and (ii) their licensing preferences for their contribution

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-11 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Michael, Just one nit-pick: in the error message "outputted" -> "output". Cheers, Ian ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/11 Neil Puttock : > I'm happy to run the tests again.  I'll report back once it's completed. Hmm, not for the first time recently, the regression tests came back completely unchanged, which should be impossible (nothing to do with your patch, I think). There are some subtle spacing change

Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
I've just noticed that the line-width, set in the paper block in ly fragments in the docs, has changed recently. The latest development release on lilypond.org has \paper { #(define dump-extents #t) line-width = 160\mm - 2.0 * 0.4\in ragged-right = ##t indent = 0\mm force-assignment = #""

Re: [PATCH] Doc: copyright/licensing notice for contemporary music section.

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: > I'll examine this in a day or two; I'm still sorting out basic > issues about how to live on the other side of the Atlantic. No rush whatsoever -- I will need time to work on this stuff. Currently going through Notation Reference source one file at a time and tracking dow

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Neil, I'm fine with all your comments... The regression test would probably benefit from being split into several separate tests, particularly the final check-consistency setting, which can then have #(ly:set-option 'warning-as-error #f) added to it in anticipation of the mythical time when we

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Michael Käppler wrote: > Hi Neil, > I'm fine with all your comments... >> >> The regression test would probably benefit from being split into >> several separate tests, particularly the final check-consistency >> setting, which can then have #(ly:set-option 'warnin

Re: shortcut for creating new Staff "subclass" context?

2009-09-11 Thread Dan Eble
On 2009-09-11, at 06:44 , Kieren MacMillan wrote: Now my question is... does the order of the lines matter at all? I'm assuming they do — e.g., if you don't change the \name until after changing some \override, there'll be confusion — but does anyone know for certain what the precedence mu

Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:16:28PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > The change from 160\mm to 5\in shortens the line > by around 33\mm, which wrecks at least one > example I have a vague notion that somebody did something to paper definitions and margins, but maybe I'm thinking of Michael's (sp) wor

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
There are some subtle spacing changes in the docs, but no breakages: quite often the line width is slightly shorter, resulting in tighter spacing (see the PNG for expressive-headword.ly attached, which is eleven pixels shorter than the current example on kainhofer.com). Maybe this is the sam

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-09-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/8/4 Joe Neeman : > The interaction between the different xxx-spacing variables is a little > complex and I need to document it properly. In this case, the problem is > that Lyrics are unaffected by between-staff-spacing (because they are > non-spaceable) and so your override only forces there

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi, please look again. Regards, Michael >From 33c05dd7df4000d7f25d2903e2555d9ca86c2e1f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?utf-8?q?Michael=20K=C3=A4ppler?= Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:47:00 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Introduce new handling for paper margin settings. * Make default margins accessible in

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Käppler
You need to amend the definition of the method in lily-guile.hh, since it's also used directly in the C++ code, with no optional arguments: 53 SCM ly_assoc_get (SCM key, SCM alist, SCM def); Hmm... I don't exactly understand the LY_DEFINE macro. Is it possible to implement this with overloa

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/11/09 6:27 PM, "Michael Käppler" wrote: > > >> You need to amend the definition of the method in lily-guile.hh, since >> it's also used directly in the C++ code, with no optional arguments: >> >> 53 SCM ly_assoc_get (SCM key, SCM alist, SCM def); Can't you just use SCM ly_assoc_ge

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:45:54PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op maandag 07-09-2009 om 14:43 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Graham > Percival: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:50:44AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > > > However, I don't particularly want my photo on the lilypond > > website.

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:10:13PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 19:53 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > > I absolutely do not want to have a half-completed switch to waf > > for documentation. > [snip] > > But I don't want to end up fumbling around in waf > > becaus

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 05:21:39PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Hi Carl, > Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 16:25 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > > I'd be willing to give a hand if I can. I read your wiki page, but didn't > > get anything from it in terms of how I could help. Give me a ping if you

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/11/09 9:21 AM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > Hi Carl, > Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 16:25 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : >> I'd be willing to give a hand if I can. I read your wiki page, but didn't >> get anything from it in terms of how I could help. Give me a ping if you >> get to the po