Re: Incipits - not alignment, but help with bug fixes

2014-08-22 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes writes: > There are currently two problems (alignment discussion notwithstanding and > which I'm not ignoring, but would prefer to park temporarily) with my > proposed incipit code. 1) If indent is not set explicitly in the \layout > block, it throws an error; 2) If instrumentName

Re: Incipits

2014-07-04 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Incipits I don't really have an idea where the scale of ly:grob-layout is actually coming from, but it would appear like the compensation fo

Re: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits )

2014-07-04 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > I resent it with the correct image, but it does not appear to have > arrived. Here it is again. Oh, it did, but we sent our mails more or less simultaneously. Won't be able to react before next week since my father is turning 80 today. -- David Kastrup ___

Re: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits )

2014-07-04 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits ) "Phil Holmes" writes: David, Thanks for the info: I'm working on understanding it. It

Re: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits )

2014-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > David, > > Thanks for the info: I'm working on understanding it. It threw up > another oddity: if markup slightly exceeds the end of the line, the > note spacing goes haywire. > > Example (one extra a in the upper score): > > \score { > \relative c'' { d1 ^"a

Re: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits )

2014-07-03 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Phil Holmes" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:54 PM Subject: Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits ) David, Thanks for the info: I'm working on understanding it. It threw up another oddity: if markup slight

Line spacing ( was Re: Incipits )

2014-07-03 Thread Phil Holmes
David, Thanks for the info: I'm working on understanding it. It threw up another oddity: if markup slightly exceeds the end of the line, the note spacing goes haywire. Example (one extra a in the upper score): \score { \relative c'' { d1 ^"" d d d \

Re: Incipits

2014-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > As I said earlier, I'm working on the incipit snippet to make it fit > as a Lilypond command. I've spent a lng time trying to work out > how the spacing of the incipit (its length and placing) is related to > the indent of the main music. In summary, it doesn't work.

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008/2/11, Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - If I'm reading this correctly, this is all a grand hack to add a > > little staff to an instrument name. I don't see the essential > > difference between this and > > > > \set instrumentName = \markup { \score { .. } the-real-name } > > > > ex

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 11 févr. 08 à 02:07, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : [...] - If I'm reading this correctly, this is all a grand hack to add a little staff to an instrument name. I don't see the essential difference between this and \set instrumentName = \markup { \score { .. } the-real-name } except that

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Karl Hammar
Till: > Juergen Reuter schrieb: > > as far as I understand, all problems with incipits boil down to the > > following two major issues: > > > > (1) horizontal spacing, and I did not focus on that, it is an ancient notation issue, it is not specific to incipits. > > (2) the system start delim

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Till Rettig
Juergen Reuter schrieb: Hi all, as far as I understand, all problems with incipits boil down to the following two major issues: (1) horizontal spacing, and (2) the system start delimiter. Karl's solution unfortunately leaves horizontal space between the incipit and the actual score;

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Robert Memering wrote: Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 16:36 schrieb Juergen Reuter: IIRC, the spacing engine maintains a variable that keeps track of shortest available duration in a peace in computes the ideal distance of larger note values in a logarithmic scale based on t

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Till Rettig
Robert Memering schrieb: Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 16:36 schrieb Juergen Reuter: IIRC, the spacing engine maintains a variable that keeps track of shortest available duration in a peace in computes the ideal distance of larger note values in a logarithmic scale based on the shortest durat

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Robert Memering
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 16:36 schrieb Juergen Reuter: > IIRC, the spacing engine maintains a variable that keeps track of shortest > available duration in a peace in computes the ideal distance of larger > note values in a logarithmic scale based on the shortest duration. Maybe > this computat

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Juergen Reuter
Hi all, as far as I understand, all problems with incipits boil down to the following two major issues: (1) horizontal spacing, and (2) the system start delimiter. Karl's solution unfortunately leaves horizontal space between the incipit and the actual score; hence it does *not* solve i

Re: Incipits

2008-02-11 Thread Karl Hammar
Han-Wen: > Sorry for looking at this so late. > > General comments: > > - you're adding an enormous bunch of code to the instrument name > engraver. That's a bad idea. If this idea merits an engraver, it > should be a separate one. ... > - If I'm reading this correctly, this is all a grand hack t

Re: Incipits

2008-02-10 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Sorry for looking at this so late. General comments: - you're adding an enormous bunch of code to the instrument name engraver. That's a bad idea. If this idea merits an engraver, it should be a separate one. - the rootSystem stuff should not be necessary; if they're nowhere else, grobs are alwa

Re: Incipits

2008-02-09 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 8 févr. 08 à 22:37, Nicolas Sceaux a écrit : Here is draft patch: the Instrument_name engraver is used to create an Incipit grob before the first line when an incipit has been specified. There are several problems in it: - how can I access the paper object from the engraver? I need a scaled

Re: Incipits

2008-02-08 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 3 févr. 08 à 22:08, Nicolas Sceaux a écrit : Le 3 févr. 08 à 21:07, Till Rettig a écrit : Whow, this is really great. I guess from that base it is somehow simple to have also changing of notehead/flags etc styles possible -- and not to forget: for most socres of renaissance music the li

Re: Incipits

2008-02-06 Thread Till Rettig
Nicolas Sceaux schrieb: Le 3 févr. 08 à 21:07, Till Rettig a écrit : Whow, this is really great. I guess from that base it is somehow simple to have also changing of notehead/flags etc styles possible -- and not to forget: for most socres of renaissance music the ligature-engraver will have

Re: Incipits

2008-02-05 Thread Till Rettig
Mats Bengtsson schrieb: Robert Memering wrote: I think the most important drawback in the instrument name approach is that the horizontal spacing is very awkward, e.g. long rests (several longae) or ligatures plus single notes have unwanted space in between. If only one could "turn off" spa

Re: Incipits

2008-02-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Robert Memering wrote: I think the most important drawback in the instrument name approach is that the horizontal spacing is very awkward, e.g. long rests (several longae) or ligatures plus single notes have unwanted space in between. If only one could "turn off" spacing, the instrument name i

Re: Incipits

2008-02-05 Thread Robert Memering
Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 22:08 schrieb Nicolas Sceaux: > But there are some flaws in the instrument name hack appraoch. The notes > are not aligned (which may or may not be a problem), and the alignment > of the incipit with the staff is manually tuned (hence the use of two > \incipit and \vocal

Re: Incipits

2008-02-03 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 3 févr. 08 à 21:07, Till Rettig a écrit : Whow, this is really great. I guess from that base it is somehow simple to have also changing of notehead/flags etc styles possible -- and not to forget: for most socres of renaissance music the ligature-engraver will have to be added to the scor

Re: Incipits

2008-02-03 Thread Till Rettig
Whow, this is really great. I guess from that base it is somehow simple to have also changing of notehead/flags etc styles possible -- and not to forget: for most socres of renaissance music the ligature-engraver will have to be added to the score and the ligature bracket engraver removed (which

Re: Incipits

2008-02-03 Thread David Kastrup
Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Grr, I just wanted to simply print two different clefs at the > beginning of a score, and now I found myself trying to implement > full featured incipits, damnit! > > I have something, based on the instrument name hack, which gives > the following resul