Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM Hi Trevor, here's a minor patch for Vocal music. Nothing too extraordinary so far, I quite like what you've done! I've done about a third of the file, I plan to work on the rest later (though it may have to wait for a while :) G

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-10-13 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > I've just pushed a patch to NR 2.1 Vocal music which provides a first draft > for the last of the blank sections marked TBC ("To Be Completed").  I > believe it's now in a much better shape than it was, even th

NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-10-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I've just pushed a patch to NR 2.1 Vocal music which provides a first draft for the last of the blank sections marked TBC ("To Be Completed"). I believe it's now in a much better shape than it was, even though much of the chapter is in "first draft" sta

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:30 PM On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals ready for review Err... 2.1.6 in today's current git? ok, doing so. I've forgotten anything else we've discussed about 2.1 vocal music, which

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals ready for review Err... 2.1.6 in today's current git? ok, doing so. I've forgotten anything else we've discussed about 2.1 vocal music, which may or may not be a good idea for this doc review. - I see sig

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:41 PM Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM I've finished and pushed the first pass through 2.1.7 Choral. I'll begin work on 2.1.9 Chants hymns and psalms next. First pass through 2.1.9 Chants etc done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Pointing a psalm - I got a bit lost here. Could you add a @lilypond to illustrate some (or all) of those points (no pun intended)? I've just pushed an expanded version of this section with several illustrative examples. Trevor _

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 AM Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM >- can't you do \layout { \context { \dynamicsUp }} ?

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Bailey wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:34 PM The current solution for lyrics independent of notes is predicated on the idea that the lyrics should be attached to some voice. Since \lyricmode just tells lilypond that the entry will be text rather than notes, why not simply use tha

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread James Bailey
So, I was reading through the changes to vocal music, and I had an epiphany. The current solution for lyrics independent of notes is predicated on the idea that the lyrics should be attached to some voice. Since \lyricmode just tells lilypond that the entry will be text rather than notes, why no

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread James Bailey
So, I was reading through the changes to vocal music, and I had an epiphany. The current solution for lyrics independent of notes is predicated on the idea that the lyrics should be attached to some voice. Since \lyricmode just tells lilypond that the entry will be text rather than notes, why no

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 PM On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:02:24AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: The main problem is the full A4 page length, complete with the standard lilypond footer. Landscape was used to reduce this a bit. I can get round the horizontal po

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:02:24AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > The main problem is the full A4 page length, complete > with the standard lilypond footer. Landscape was > used to reduce this a bit. > I can get round the horizontal positioning problems > by specifying ragged-right and line-wi

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:31 AM On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:15:18AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM >Hmm... I'm not certain about the paper-size and indent. Happy to remove paper size and landscape, and book,

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:15:18AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM > > >Hmm... I'm not certain about the paper-size and indent. > > Happy to remove paper size and landscape, and book, > but I'd like to keep indent 0 to show the separator >

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM >- do you absolutely need to use an @example rather than >@lilypond >for >the page-separator-markup ? >That said, w

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM > > >- do you absolutely need to use an @example rather than @lilypond > >for > >the page-separator-markup ? > >That said, we really try to avoid repeating information that's

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM 2.1.9 Chants psalms and hymns I've just pushed these changes: - "To remove the stem set the transparent property of the Stem grob to #t... An alternative is set the length property to 0." Please don't talk through the code. I'm a stup

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM - not related to Vocal, but I winced a bit when seeing @ref{Lines}. It might be better to rename this to "Expressive marks as lines" or "Line-style expressions" or something... "Lines" by itself looks fine if you're looking at the ToC, bu

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-09-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Anyway, 2.1.7. [snip] "Setting annotate-spacing = ##t in the layout block..." Could I convince you to remove that part, and just link to Displaying spacing ? Done I'd rather that you @ref{Fitting music onto fewer pages} rather tha

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:48 PM On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:09:01PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I think we need to reorganise the first few sections of Vocal a little. I like it. You have slightly more inside 2.1.1 than I would have initially guessed, but I've always

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:09:01PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM > > >I know you didn't say to look at NR 2.1.1, but I noticed that you > >used > >"Common references for vocal music" instead of the standard > >"References for vocal music".

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM Let's deal with 2.1.1 first. I know you didn't say to look at NR 2.1.1, but I noticed that you used "Common references for vocal music" instead of the standard "References for vocal music". Yes, this was because there are specific refere

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next. Any chance you could look over and comment on 2.1.7 and 2.1.9, please? Doing so. [snip

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done. > > I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next. > > Any chance you could look over and comment on 2.1.7 and 2.1.9, please? Doing so. I know you didn't say to look at NR 2.1.1, but I noticed th

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM I've finished and pushed the first pass through 2.1.7 Choral. I'll begin work on 2.1.9 Chants hymns and psalms next. First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done. I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next. Any chance you could look over

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:43 PM On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: BTW, there are several snippets in the LSR which would be good to incorporate but which are not tagged with docs. It's a real pain for me to do this Yes; any LSR editor can ad

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > BTW, there are several snippets in the LSR which would be good > to incorporate but which are not tagged with docs.  It's a real pain > for me to do this - as far as I can see I have to effectively copy the > entire snippet and reenter it

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:23 PM Valentin: I've just pushed a patch which sets out NR 2.1 the way I want it to be. We can now begin work on fleshing out all the missing bits. To avoid merge conflicts we shall need to avoid changing the same parts of vocal.itely simultan

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, August 16, 2010 10:56 PM As for the 2.1 headword, for now, let's just start working on the documentation itself, Trevor and I; when the time comes my patch will still be there, or I'll have had a chance of cooking something more appropriate by then. OK. Va

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:38 PM >> >> I'd really rather that you helped out with programming (or at >> least testing+reviewing patches) and critical doc issues... > > I looked through the 12 remaining critical issu

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:38 PM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: However, I realise 2.14 might happen any time real soon now, so I'd make sure any changes I pushed were complete and an improvement over what was there before, so that 2.14 co

Re: NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > However, I realise 2.14 might happen any time real soon > now, so I'd make sure any changes I pushed were complete > and an improvement over what was there before, so that > 2.14 could be released at any time without 2.1 looking > a

NR 2.1 Vocal music

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham My recent activity has shown my RSI is not too bad now, provided I don't spend long periods at the keyboard. I'd like to review NR 2.1 Vocal music and try to get that into better shape by dealing with all the TBC, TODO's etc. before we release 2.14. First I'd l