Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-24 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <4b7bcbfe.80...@hulin.org.uk>, Ian Hulin writes     \score {         \header {             title = "Trio"         }         % Music for Section B of Scherzo, aka Trio, ending with         % "Da Capo" type markup     }     \score {         \header {             title = "Coda" % or \mar

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-24 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <4b79c831.7080...@hulin.org.uk>, Ian Hulin writes On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: Dal Segno Al Coda A "§" B C "©" D "Dal Segno al Coda" E ==> A B C D B C E Firstly, can anyone think of any more combinations I may have missed here? To Trio. Thanks for that, David,

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread Ian Hulin
On 16/02/10 17:20, reinhold [via LilyPond Frogs] wrote: Am Dienstag, 16. Februar 2010 18:07:11 schrieb Ian Hulin: > Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. > > > > I personally think we need a more general structure than \rep

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > David Kastrup schrieb: > >> But the point is that "repeat volta" and "coda" and whatever else in >> the music list should be just interesting for the grob engraver, and >> performer and repeat unfolder and cautionaries and stuff get their >> info from a lower-level primitive d

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread Marc Hohl
David Kastrup schrieb: Marc Hohl writes: After reading through the other posts, I think that overloading \repeat would not cover *all* possible cases. On the other hand, there should be *one* consistent way of doing any kind of repeats. David's comparison with goto-like structures seems to

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > After reading through the other posts, I think that overloading > \repeat would not cover *all* possible > cases. On the other hand, there should be *one* consistent way of > doing any kind of repeats. > > David's comparison with goto-like structures seems to be the right > ap

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Marc Hohl
Ian Hulin schrieb: Hi Marc, On 15/02/10 18:32, Marc Hohl wrote: Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Excellent points -- in particular: > Those "goto" and "function calls" should be able to have some basic > effects not just on performance, but also on typesetting: ties starting > before a branch point (or function return) need to be ended in each > branch, the same for slurs and so on

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > > I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. > > I personally think we need a more general structure than \repeat will > ever be able to reasonably offer. My take on this is that we need the equivalent of (multiple) "goto" and function

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. I personally think we need a more general structure than \repeat will ever be able to reasonably offer. Essentially, we need to be able to say that a single movement/piece [of Lilypond code] consists of one or more \sect

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi David, On 16/02/10 07:00, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin To: David Pounder Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
"David Pounder" writes: >> --- Original Message --- >> From: Ian Hulin >> To: David Pounder > > Apologies for the blank replies - my e-mail client has been playing > up. While you are at it: could you _please_ cut out anything from your article quotes that is not relevant to your reply

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > I have also thought about implementing this properly. > > I had the idea to extend the \repeat syntax: > > \repeat segno {.A.} > \alternative {{ .B. }{ .C.}} That appears quite preferable to me. One problem I see is that there sometimes is a number of repeat structures. An

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: David Pounder > Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 > Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: > > > > > >> --- Original Message --- > &g

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
Regards, David Pounder > --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: David Pounder > Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 > Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: > > > > > >> --- Ori

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Marc, On 15/02/10 18:32, Marc Hohl wrote: Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have to be at the start

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Hulin
On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin To: Lilypond Frogs List Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos Hi Frogs and Developers, This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GLISS list when it gets

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: Lilypond Frogs List > Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 > Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > Hi Frogs and Developers, > This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GLISS list when > it get

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
Regards, David Pounder > --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: Lilypond Frogs List > Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 > Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > Hi Frogs and Developers, > This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GL

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Marc Hohl
Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have to be at the start of the score, but I think it would be ben

Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Frogs and Developers, This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GLISS list when it gets going. I'm trying to think of all the commoner combinations of Segnos, Codas and Da Capo instructions so maybe we can work out a consistent syntax for addressing what are, after all, variat