Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-07 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
>>> So do we need any warnings or notes to be added to here: >>> >>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage-big-page#advanced-command-line-options-for-lilypond >>> >>> and/or here: >>> >>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation-big-page#entire-document-fonts >>> >>> ? >> In

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-07 Thread James
Hosoda-san, On 07/06/16 13:54, Masamichi Hosoda wrote: So do we need any warnings or notes to be added to here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage-big-page#advanced-command-line-options-for-lilypond and/or here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation-big-page#enti

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-07 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
>>> Any idea why this is so? Could you contact the gs people by filing >>> a bug report so that we get an explanation? >> >> If I understand correctly, there is four issues at least. [...] > > Thanks for your analysis. There is ghostscript developers reply. http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-07 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
> So do we need any warnings or notes to be added to here: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage-big-page#advanced-command-line-options-for-lilypond > > and/or here: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation-big-page#entire-document-fonts > > ? In my humble opini

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-06 Thread James Lowe
Hosoda-san, On 06/06/16 14:44, Masamichi Hosoda wrote: I've tried some Japanese fonts with `-dgs-load-fonts' option. [...] So most Japanese fonts can not be used with `-dgs-load-fonts' option. Any idea why this is so? Could you contact the gs people by filing a bug report so that we get an e

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Any idea why this is so? Could you contact the gs people by filing >> a bug report so that we get an explanation? > > If I understand correctly, there is four issues at least. [...] Thanks for your analysis. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailin

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-06 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
>> I've tried some Japanese fonts with `-dgs-load-fonts' option. [...] >> >> So most Japanese fonts can not be used with `-dgs-load-fonts' >> option. > > Any idea why this is so? Could you contact the gs people by filing a > bug report so that we get an explanation? If I understand correctly,

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I've tried some Japanese fonts with `-dgs-load-fonts' option. [...] > > So most Japanese fonts can not be used with `-dgs-load-fonts' > option. Any idea why this is so? Could you contact the gs people by filing a bug report so that we get an explanation? Werner ___

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-05 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
>>> In addition, all fonts of the above without `-dgs-load-fonts' option are >>> fine. >>> I suggest removing `-dgs-load-fonts' option from lilypond-book. >>> I think that `--bigpdfs' option is more suitable than >>> `-dgs-load-fonts'. >> >> Either make for particularly large PDF files, don't the

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-05 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
>> In addition, all fonts of the above without `-dgs-load-fonts' option are >> fine. >> I suggest removing `-dgs-load-fonts' option from lilypond-book. >> I think that `--bigpdfs' option is more suitable than >> `-dgs-load-fonts'. > > Either make for particularly large PDF files, don't they? If

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-05 Thread David Kastrup
Masamichi Hosoda writes: > In addition, all fonts of the above without `-dgs-load-fonts' option are fine. > I suggest removing `-dgs-load-fonts' option from lilypond-book. > I think that `--bigpdfs' option is more suitable than > `-dgs-load-fonts'. Either make for particularly large PDF files, d

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-05 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
> As of > http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-lilypond@gnu.org/msg40846.html > I had uninstalled Noto and instead installed IPA fonts _and_ IPAex fonts. > After uninstalling IPAex fonts - first the test-case worked and now I > have success on a full `make doc'. It seems that fonts-ipaexfont-{mincho|go

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-04 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-06-04 15:12 GMT+02:00 Masamichi Hosoda : >> In addition, the following command sequence succeeds: >> >> lilypond-book aaa-lilybook-test.lytex >> latex aaa-lilybook-test.tex >> dvips aaa-lilybook-test.dvi >> ps2pdf aaa-lilybook-test.ps >> evince aaa-lilybook-test.pdf >> >> aaa-lilybook-test.ps

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-04 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
> In addition, the following command sequence succeeds: > > lilypond-book aaa-lilybook-test.lytex > latex aaa-lilybook-test.tex > dvips aaa-lilybook-test.dvi > ps2pdf aaa-lilybook-test.ps > evince aaa-lilybook-test.pdf > > aaa-lilybook-test.ps is >16MB again, though. Thank you for your results.

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-03 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-06-03 23:57 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2016-06-03 14:02 GMT+02:00 Masamichi Hosoda : >>> %%% start of aaa-lilybook.lytex >>> >>> \documentclass[a4paper]{article} >>> >>> \begin{document} >>> >>> \begin{lilypond} >>> \markup { >>> %foo bar buzz >>> いろはにほへど ちりぬるを >>> } >>> >>> \end{lily

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-03 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-06-03 14:02 GMT+02:00 Masamichi Hosoda : >> %%% start of aaa-lilybook.lytex >> >> \documentclass[a4paper]{article} >> >> \begin{document} >> >> \begin{lilypond} >> \markup { >> %foo bar buzz >> いろはにほへど ちりぬるを >> } >> >> \end{lilypond} >> >> \end{document} >> >> %%% end of aaa-lilybo

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-03 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
> %%% start of aaa-lilybook.lytex > > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > > \begin{document} > > \begin{lilypond} > \markup { > %foo bar buzz > いろはにほへど ちりぬるを > } > > \end{lilypond} > > \end{document} > > %%% end of aaa-lilybook.lytex > > always fails with: > > $ lilypond-book --o

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-03 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > First the good news. > With a build from a checkout of recent staging, I can successfully run > make LANGS='' doc > without any failure for orchestra.ly > ... as soon as I comment/delete all japanese !! Yes, it was pretty obvious that we are talking about two separate pro

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Hmm, pdflatex... What happens if you enforce xelatex? > > $ lilypond-book --latex-program=xelatex --output=out --pdf \ >aaa-lilybook.lytex > [...] > fatal error: failed files: "28/lily-a7047c84.ly" OK. What Japanese font is used in the lilypond-book example? Is it the same

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-02 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-06-02 23:19 GMT+02:00 Werner LEMBERG : > >> Running `pdflatex' on file `/tmp/tmpP_qJ7Q.tex' to detect default >> page settings. > > Hmm, pdflatex... What happens if you enforce xelatex? $ lilypond-book --latex-program=xelatex --output=out --pdf aaa-lilybook.lytex lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond

Re: make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Running `pdflatex' on file `/tmp/tmpP_qJ7Q.tex' to detect default > page settings. Hmm, pdflatex... What happens if you enforce xelatex? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilyp

make doc still fails - problem with lilypond-book - was: Still cannot make doc

2016-06-02 Thread Thomas Morley
First the good news. With a build from a checkout of recent staging, I can successfully run make LANGS='' doc without any failure for orchestra.ly ... as soon as I comment/delete all japanese !! But it allways fails for any japanese in the doc. I spent some time to boil it down to a minmal example

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-31 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Oh Well, Lilydev complains about the same make doc error when (I use > -j5) - I am 99% sure, I haven't time now to look at the full output, > but the messages generated on the console are so familiar that I am > almost sure it is the same thing. > > I have to leave now for Home.

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread Colin Campbell
On 16-05-30 01:31 AM, Knut Petersen wrote: Is there anybody out there who succeeds to build the current lilypond documentation on a 64 bit linux machine with a 64 bit toolchain? Please report cpu as well as versions of gcc and guile. Linux Sherlock 3.19.0-32-generic #37~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > David if you need anything from any of these outputs on my machines > here at work, let me know and I'll do whatever tests or output that > you think might be helpful. > > Hope the Nettle-reaping was successful. Scything. There is nothing to reap, they just have to be kept from

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread James
On 30/05/16 16:59, David Kastrup wrote: James writes: Hello On 30/05/16 15:06, David Kastrup wrote: James writes: Zipped Valgrind output of both OSes is attached to this email or can be obtained here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9nZ5LHV2Ds6dGU5VTJjOGNlSm8/view?usp=sharing By far

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Hello > > On 30/05/16 15:06, David Kastrup wrote: >> James writes: >> >>> Zipped Valgrind output of both OSes is attached to this email or can >>> be obtained here: >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9nZ5LHV2Ds6dGU5VTJjOGNlSm8/view?usp=sharing >> By far most complaints are

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread James
Hello On 30/05/16 15:06, David Kastrup wrote: James writes: Zipped Valgrind output of both OSes is attached to this email or can be obtained here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9nZ5LHV2Ds6dGU5VTJjOGNlSm8/view?usp=sharing By far most complaints are in the GC marking phase and complain ab

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Zipped Valgrind output of both OSes is attached to this email or can > be obtained here: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9nZ5LHV2Ds6dGU5VTJjOGNlSm8/view?usp=sharing By far most complaints are in the GC marking phase and complain about uninitialized values in stack allocatio

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Thomas Morley writes: > >> 2016-05-29 21:03 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : >> >>> I'll now checkout a fresh branch from master, apply Hosoda-san's patch from >>> https://codereview.appspot.com/298320043/ >>> change orchestra.ly as before. >>> Try a full `make doc' and report b

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread Masamichi Hosoda
> Is there anybody out there who succeeds to build the current lilypond > documentation on a 64 bit linux machine with a 64 bit toolchain? > Please report cpu as well as versions of gcc and guile. Although my environment is not linux, I've succeeded `make doc' by HEAD of master branch. Of course,

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2016-05-29 21:03 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > >> I'll now checkout a fresh branch from master, apply Hosoda-san's patch from >> https://codereview.appspot.com/298320043/ >> change orchestra.ly as before. >> Try a full `make doc' and report back later. > > > This failed quit

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-29 21:03 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > I'll now checkout a fresh branch from master, apply Hosoda-san's patch from > https://codereview.appspot.com/298320043/ > change orchestra.ly as before. > Try a full `make doc' and report back later. This failed quite early in the regtest with the alr

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
Knut Petersen writes: > Am 29.05.2016 um 13:52 schrieb David Kastrup: >> I have to see whether I have a chance to run a 64 bit kernel on my >> system: I used to for a few years (and consequently was able to look >> at 64 bit code), but the current laptop has an Nvidia card and >> Ubuntu's kernel/

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-30 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 29.05.2016 um 13:52 schrieb David Kastrup: I have to see whether I have a chance to run a 64 bit kernel on my system: I used to for a few years (and consequently was able to look at 64 bit code), but the current laptop has an Nvidia card and Ubuntu's kernel/library setup did not manage to integ

OTC support [was: Still cannot make doc :(]

2016-05-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think make doc uses --bigpdf and some sort of PDF postprocessing. > Maybe one needs that to reproduce? Here's a more detailed analysis of the problem regarding OpenType collections. I've just tried to compile this snippet \version "2.19.40" \markup { \override #'(font-name . "Noto S

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Thomas Morley writes: > >>> Processing `./c0/lily-c236818d.ly' >>> Parsing... >>> Renaming input to: `/home/hermann/lilypond-git/input/regression/utf-8.ly' >>> Interpreting music... >>> Preprocessing graphical objects... >>> Calculating line breaks... >>> Drawing systems.

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: >> Processing `./c0/lily-c236818d.ly' >> Parsing... >> Renaming input to: `/home/hermann/lilypond-git/input/regression/utf-8.ly' >> Interpreting music... >> Preprocessing graphical objects... >> Calculating line breaks... >> Drawing systems... >> Writing header field `texido

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > James, > > 2016-05-29 13:15 GMT+02:00 James Lowe : >> Thomas, > >> I think this a a completely different issue that you have, perhaps, >> self-inflicted here and this is just adding noise to the thread. >> >> Knut and I do not get these same errors as you and also note tha

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread Thomas Morley
; only purpose is to generate a png file for an examples display (i.e. it > isn't a snippet that I can see used in any other part of the doc). > > Finally, as I cannot make doc still, I cannot test patches, am not really > checking my emails as much as I normally do, other than

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> I have to see whether I have a chance to run a 64 bit kernel on my >> system: I used to for a few years (and consequently was able to look >> at 64 bit code), but the current laptop has an Nvidia card and >> Ubuntu's kernel/library setup did not

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-29 14:44 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > David Kastrup writes: > >> I have to see whether I have a chance to run a 64 bit kernel on my >> system: I used to for a few years (and consequently was able to look >> at 64 bit code), but the current laptop has an Nvidia card and >> Ubuntu's kernel/li

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > I have to see whether I have a chance to run a 64 bit kernel on my > system: I used to for a few years (and consequently was able to look > at 64 bit code), but the current laptop has an Nvidia card and > Ubuntu's kernel/library setup did not manage to integrate the Nvidia

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
erning architecture: having a different problem responsible there is clarifying things. > Finally, as I cannot make doc still, I cannot test patches, am not > really checking my emails as much as I normally do, other than to drop > by for the patch countdown - which doesn't need me to compile

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> warning: `(gs -q -dNOSAFER -dEPSCrop -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 > -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite > -sOutputFile=./55/lily-c61e089a.pdf -c.setpdfwrite > -f./55/lily-c61e089a.eps)' failed (256) Is there any possibility to increase the verbosity

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread James Lowe
ints. As soon as I rebase master with current and try the same patch, I go back to the same old 'orchestra.ly' failure - note also that he failure seems to occur at the 'website' making stage where this ly file's only purpose is to generate a png file for an examples d

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-29 12:29 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2016-05-29 1:14 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : >> 2016-05-28 12:27 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : >> >>> >>> FWIW, I checked out staging with your recent patch, i.e.: >>> $ git log >>> commit 193369dddc8adc492d3d98b6f1d00de11a31e9c4 >>> Author: David Kastrup >>>

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-29 1:14 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2016-05-28 12:27 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > >> >> FWIW, I checked out staging with your recent patch, i.e.: >> $ git log >> commit 193369dddc8adc492d3d98b6f1d00de11a31e9c4 >> Author: David Kastrup >> Date: Fri May 27 10:20:18 2016 +0200 >> >> Issu

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-28 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-28 12:27 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > > FWIW, I checked out staging with your recent patch, i.e.: > $ git log > commit 193369dddc8adc492d3d98b6f1d00de11a31e9c4 > Author: David Kastrup > Date: Fri May 27 10:20:18 2016 +0200 > > Issue 4863: Protect Grob_interface<>::interface_symbol_ >

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> On my host system Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit >> make doc >> fails with orchestra.ly as before > > Yes, I reckoned so after James' report. Without some backtrace or > core dump or recipe other than "run make doc" I cannot really track > this down. It would not be feasible to look at the assembly code

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-28 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2016-05-27 16:22 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : >> James writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those >>> waiting on me to test new patches, I cannot do that with any great

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-28 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-05-27 16:22 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > James writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those >> waiting on me to test new patches, I cannot do that with any great >> reliability either. > > Fiddlesticks.

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-27 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "James" Cc: "lilypond-devel" Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Still cannot make doc :( James writes: Hello, I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those waitin

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-27 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Hello, > > I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those > waiting on me to test new patches, I cannot do that with any great > reliability either. > > I am sorry this is incredibly frustrating. > > @Phil would it be possible for

Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-27 Thread James
Hello, I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those waiting on me to test new patches, I cannot do that with any great reliability either. I am sorry this is incredibly frustrating. @Phil would it be possible for you to run Patchy Merge on your system and see if you

Re: Still cannot make doc :(

2016-05-27 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Hello, > > I still cannot make doc and so cannot merge staging - and for those > waiting on me to test new patches, I cannot do that with any great > reliability either. Fiddlesticks. I was afraid that this would be the case but it was worth a try. >

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-10 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 09 décembre 2009 à 20:19 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : > Thank you, now I have upgraded texi2html to v1.82 and have been able > to complete the process. Ah, if you used a version older than 1.82, it probably doesn't normalize the node names the same way. > I uncompressed it from

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-09 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/9 John Mandereau : > Le samedi 05 décembre 2009 à 11:18 +, Graham Percival a écrit : >> I've seen similar messages when attempting to build it on GUB, >> although they specify /contributor/ instead. > > Please send me the same info I asked in my reply to Francisco, otherwise > there is

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-09 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 05 décembre 2009 à 11:18 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > I've seen similar messages when attempting to build it on GUB, > although they specify /contributor/ instead. Please send me the same info I asked in my reply to Francisco, otherwise there is little chance I see why extract-texi

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-09 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 06 décembre 2009 à 19:37 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : > I have rm-rf'ed completely out* and Documentation/, then reset them > hard, and still > >*** Can't open ./out-www/learning/ for writing: Is a directory, > > after 41 min of compilation. To investigate this, I need the Git

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-06 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/6 John Mandereau : >> *** Can't open ./out-www/learning/ for writing: Is a directory >> Documentation/./out-www/learning/index.fr.html > > I got this too (but only in my working tree) while fixing > extract_texi_filenames.py and lilypond-texi2html.init.  As a result, > Texi2HTML now bombs o

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-06 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 05 décembre 2009 à 11:18 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > I've seen similar messages when attempting to build it on GUB, > although they specify /contributor/ instead. I haven't seen them > when building it natively, though. I'll try building the online > target and see if that dies.

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-06 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 05 décembre 2009 à 11:32 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : > WARNING: Node 'Index de LilyPond' was NOT found in the map > File name: index-de-lilypond.html There is a lot of debug prints from the init file, a lot of them are commented out; I'll remove most of them when the init file will b

Re: Cannot make doc

2009-12-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:32:14AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > Hello all, I'm trying to build the docs and after many lines of the form > > WARNING: Node 'Index de LilyPond' was NOT found in the map > File name: index-de-lilypond.html > > I finally obtain > > *** Can't open ./out-www/learning

Cannot make doc

2009-12-05 Thread Francisco Vila
Hello all, I'm trying to build the docs and after many lines of the form WARNING: Node 'Index de LilyPond' was NOT found in the map File name: index-de-lilypond.html I finally obtain *** Can't open ./out-www/learning/ for writing: Is a directory Documentation/./out-www/learning/index.fr.html ma