Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-24 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <4b7bcbfe.80...@hulin.org.uk>, Ian Hulin writes     \score {         \header {             title = "Trio"         }         % Music for Section B of Scherzo, aka Trio, ending with         % "Da Capo" type markup     }     \score {         \header {             title = "Coda" % or \mar

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-24 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <4b79c831.7080...@hulin.org.uk>, Ian Hulin writes On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: Dal Segno Al Coda A "§" B C "©" D "Dal Segno al Coda" E ==> A B C D B C E Firstly, can anyone think of any more combinations I may have missed here? To Trio. Thanks for that, David,

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread Ian Hulin
On 16/02/10 17:20, reinhold [via LilyPond Frogs] wrote: Am Dienstag, 16. Februar 2010 18:07:11 schrieb Ian Hulin: > Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. > > > > I personally think we need a more general structure than \rep

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > David Kastrup schrieb: > >> But the point is that "repeat volta" and "coda" and whatever else in >> the music list should be just interesting for the grob engraver, and >> performer and repeat unfolder and cautionaries and stuff get their >> info from a lower-level primitive d

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-17 Thread Marc Hohl
David Kastrup schrieb: Marc Hohl writes: After reading through the other posts, I think that overloading \repeat would not cover *all* possible cases. On the other hand, there should be *one* consistent way of doing any kind of repeats. David's comparison with goto-like structures seems to

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > After reading through the other posts, I think that overloading > \repeat would not cover *all* possible > cases. On the other hand, there should be *one* consistent way of > doing any kind of repeats. > > David's comparison with goto-like structures seems to be the right > ap

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Marc Hohl
Ian Hulin schrieb: Hi Marc, On 15/02/10 18:32, Marc Hohl wrote: Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Excellent points -- in particular: > Those "goto" and "function calls" should be able to have some basic > effects not just on performance, but also on typesetting: ties starting > before a branch point (or function return) need to be ended in each > branch, the same for slurs and so on

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > > I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. > > I personally think we need a more general structure than \repeat will > ever be able to reasonably offer. My take on this is that we need the equivalent of (multiple) "goto" and function

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I've been lurking a bit on this thread, but felt I should comment. I personally think we need a more general structure than \repeat will ever be able to reasonably offer. Essentially, we need to be able to say that a single movement/piece [of Lilypond code] consists of one or more \sect

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi David, On 16/02/10 07:00, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin To: David Pounder Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
"David Pounder" writes: >> --- Original Message --- >> From: Ian Hulin >> To: David Pounder > > Apologies for the blank replies - my e-mail client has been playing > up. While you are at it: could you _please_ cut out anything from your article quotes that is not relevant to your reply

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > I have also thought about implementing this properly. > > I had the idea to extend the \repeat syntax: > > \repeat segno {.A.} > \alternative {{ .B. }{ .C.}} That appears quite preferable to me. One problem I see is that there sometimes is a number of repeat structures. An

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: David Pounder > Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 > Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: > > > > > >> --- Original Message --- > &g

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
Regards, David Pounder > --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: David Pounder > Sent: 15.2.10, 22:18:25 > Subject: Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: > > > > > >> --- Ori

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Marc, On 15/02/10 18:32, Marc Hohl wrote: Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have to be at the start

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Ian Hulin
On 15/02/10 18:47, David Pounder wrote: --- Original Message --- From: Ian Hulin To: Lilypond Frogs List Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos Hi Frogs and Developers, This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GLISS list when it gets

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: Lilypond Frogs List > Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 > Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > Hi Frogs and Developers, > This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GLISS list when > it get

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread David Pounder
Regards, David Pounder > --- Original Message --- > From: Ian Hulin > To: Lilypond Frogs List > Sent: 15.2.10, 17:40:48 > Subject: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos > > Hi Frogs and Developers, > This is by way of limbering up for a discussion on the GL

Re: [frogs] Da Capos, Codas and Segnos

2010-02-15 Thread Marc Hohl
Ian Hulin schrieb: [...] Secondly, what I had in mind was this kind of thing: * \dalsegno and \dacapo - both of these start off a segno/dacapo section. I know it's a bit weird that the \dacapo command would have to be at the start of the score, but I think it would be ben