Patch for stylesheets

2008-12-18 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hello, This patch features many of the same changes as my previous patches, but I have changed fewer colors this time. One notable color that is not present is the `soft blue' currently being used for links. I hope to reintegrate this color in the future. Please compare the current style with t

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Graham Breed
2008/12/19 Hans Aberg : > Keyboard maps can demand certain key stroke combinations for output, and can > output a sequence of characters, I would think, because otherwise some > Unicode combining character combinations might not be possible. So it might > be possible to capture keywords - I do not

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Graham Breed
2008/12/19 Johannes Schindelin : > Hi, > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Hans Aberg wrote: >> Right. On Mac OS X, just use or whatever you set it to >> change key map. > > Right, let's make things complicated. > > No, but thanks, no, So how do you switch to Chinese input? Graha

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Hans Aberg wrote: > On 18 Dec 2008, at 22:28, wrote: > > > >Right. So the best one can hope for is a series of keyboard maps that > > >perhaps unify groups of characters, that those that so like may use. > > > >The issue is to create a UTF-8 text file with linguistic co

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Hans Aberg
On 18 Dec 2008, at 22:28, wrote: Right. So the best one can hope for is a series of keyboard maps that perhaps unify groups of characters, that those that so like may use. The issue is to create a UTF-8 text file with linguistic content from several writing scripts, right? Choose an OS and a

Re: PATCH: Allow setting of arpeggio type for spanned arpeggios

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
You should use get_property("stencil") unless you're doing something special. Still better is to use a callback in the spanner which copies the stencil from its children. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > I'm working on a score where I'd like to create a cross-staff vertical

Re: [PATCH] Fix for bug #218 (center staccato over stem instead of notehead)

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/12/17 Maximilian Albert : > Whoops, corrected in the attached patch (where the layout block is > removed, too). Cheers, I've applied your patches to master. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.or

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread demery
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Hans Aberg said: > On 18 Dec 2008, at 20:40, wrote: >> Unicode is a good solution for recording the result internally > Right. So the best one can hope for is a series of keyboard maps that > perhaps unify groups of characters, that those that so like may use. The issu

Re: Please remove TODO

2008-12-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > > please remove the TODO file from lily/ - we don't use TODO files as > > > they tend to bitrot and garner all kinds of pie-in-the-sky entries. > > > > What place do you suggest instead? > > I don't know what Han-Wen was thinking, but I propose google code. > http://code.google.com/p/lilypon

PATCH: Allow setting of arpeggio type for spanned arpeggios

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Snyder
I'm working on a score where I'd like to create a cross-staff vertical bracket, which I have LilyPond engrave as a bracket-style arpeggio. This was not possible because spanned arpeggios always used the default stencil - the NR alludes to this in 1.3.3 under "Known issues and warnings," where t

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Hans Aberg
On 18 Dec 2008, at 20:54, Laura Conrad wrote: Hans> If you want to fit all the world languages into one keyboard map, I don't. My point was that unless you do, a lilypond-specific keyboard map isn't going to be usable for people who transcribe vocal music for all the world languages.

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Hans Aberg
On 18 Dec 2008, at 20:40, wrote: If you want to fit all the world languages into one keyboard map, you might join the Unicode list; there are more than 10 characters available. Unicode is a good solution for recording the result internally, but as far as I know keyboard layout is still

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 18 déc. 08 à 15:55, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : I guess we'll have to name it inc or something. Can you talk to the GUILE guys about this to get some background? The 1+ function exists is many lisp idioms of old, so this is where it comes from. +1 cannot be an identifier: it is the number 1

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Hans" == Hans Aberg writes: Hans> On 18 Dec 2008, at 16:53, Laura Conrad wrote: Hans> Perhaps LilyPond users should agree on one keyboard layout - Hans> it takes some effort to do. >> >> This is the kind of suggestion that would only be made by a music >> software

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread demery
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Hans Aberg said: > If you want to fit all the world languages into one keyboard map, you > might join the Unicode list; there are more than 10 characters > available. Unicode is a good solution for recording the result internally, but as far as I know keyboard layou

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Hans Aberg
On 18 Dec 2008, at 16:53, Laura Conrad wrote: Hans> Perhaps LilyPond users should agree on one keyboard layout - Hans> it takes some effort to do. This is the kind of suggestion that would only be made by a music software person who had never worked with vocal music. If you want to fit

Re: Please remove TODO

2008-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:40:23PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > please remove the TODO file from lily/ - we don't use TODO files as > > they tend to bitrot and garner all kinds of pie-in-the-sky entries. > > What place do you suggest instead? I don't know what Han-Wen was thinking, but I p

Re: Please remove TODO

2008-12-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> please remove the TODO file from lily/ - we don't use TODO files as > they tend to bitrot and garner all kinds of pie-in-the-sky entries. What place do you suggest instead? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://li

Re: move .ly code out of .py

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: >> Can you put your timesig code into a .scm (or .ly) file ? > > yes and no (i.e. "yes" it should be added to lilypond directl

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/18/08 7:55 AM, "Han-Wen Nienhuys" wrote: > I guess we'll have to name it inc or something. Can you talk to the > GUILE guys about this to get some background? > > thanks! Have we done any tests to find out how much a time difference is made using 1+ instead of + 1 ? My guess is that

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Hans" == Hans Aberg writes: Hans> Perhaps LilyPond users should agree on one keyboard layout - Hans> it takes some effort to do. This is the kind of suggestion that would only be made by a music software person who had never worked with vocal music. -- Laura (mailto:lcon...@l

Re: move .ly code out of .py

2008-12-18 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > Can you put your timesig code into a .scm (or .ly) file ? yes and no (i.e. "yes" it should be added to lilypond directly, but "no" not in its current form). Currently it's unfinished (aut

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
I guess we'll have to name it inc or something. Can you talk to the GUILE guys about this to get some background? thanks! On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > Unfortunately +1 is neither an R5RS identifier. > > identifier: (letter|special_initial) subsequent

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Unfortunately +1 is neither an R5RS identifier. identifier: (letter|special_initial) subsequent* | + | - | ... special_initial: ! | $ | % | & | * | / | : | < | = | > | ? | ^ | _ | ~ "In general, a sequence of letters, digits, and “extended alphabetic characters” is an identifier when it begins

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Can you also voice this concern on the guile devel list? I think the reason the function exists is that is slightly more efficient. Feel free to define a +1 function and change lily to use it. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > Hi, > > I found that many pla

move .ly code out of .py

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Hi Reinhold, Can you put your timesig code into a .scm (or .ly) file ? We should try to minimize nested code (ie code in language A inside code of language B). -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-devel

Please remove TODO

2008-12-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Hi Werner, please remove the TODO file from lily/ - we don't use TODO files as they tend to bitrot and garner all kinds of pie-in-the-sky entries. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Hans Aberg
On 18 Dec 2008, at 10:11, Mark Polesky wrote: You might call for using Unicode: r16 g♯( a g♯ f♯♯ g♯ c♯ e d♯ c♯ d♯ c♯ b♯ c♯ e g♯) This doesn't save keystrokes, though, does it? Can a user get ♯ with a single key? Yes, with the right key map (keyboard layout), but I think you will have to

Re: PATCH: Arrowed accidentals for microtone notation

2008-12-18 Thread Maximilian Albert
Hi Trevor, thanks for the suggestion. Here is a patch to implement this (it simply defines new alterations of +/- 499/1000 and +/- 501/1000, which I assume are unlikely to be used for anything else). I don't know if the patch is likely to get officially accepted, but at least it should give you or

Re: Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I found that many places you use the procedure 1+. Besides that how > ridiculous I think is to have a function that spares a "space" (1+ > instead of (+ 1, the real concern is that it doesn't conform to > R5RS. R5RS doesn't allow identifiers to start with a number. I know > that GUILE allows it

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> By the way, if both english.ly and deutsch.ly incorporated the utf-8 > idea, German would win the minimal-size contest thanks to the b/h > quirk of that language. Note that it is quite unusual in German to write `g#'; we almost always use `gis'. The same for the flat accidental. Werner

Not R5RS, but GUILE

2008-12-18 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Hi, I found that many places you use the procedure 1+. Besides that how ridiculous I think is to have a function that spares a "space" (1+ instead of (+ 1, the real concern is that it doesn't conform to R5RS. R5RS doesn't allow identifiers to start with a number. I know that GUILE allows it (

Re: \chordmode related deficiencys in the command index (Appendix G)

2008-12-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Danalute wrote Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:26 PM Appendix G has entries for /: and /+ , used in \chordmode { } There is no entry for \chordmode There is no entry for the symbols '<' and '>' discussion of the < notelist> convention (an alternate way to enter chords in a note stream)

Re: why is Dutch the default language for note-entry?

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Polesky
Hans Aberg wrote: > You might call for using Unicode: > r16 g♯( a g♯ f♯♯ g♯ c♯ e d♯ c♯ d♯ c♯ b♯ c♯ e g♯) This doesn't save keystrokes, though, does it? Can a user get ♯ with a single key? I think english.ly is still finest, the only possible improvement would be to find a single key for the

Re: Building LilyPond with GUB on a 64bit machine with 32bit OS

2008-12-18 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op woensdag 17-12-2008 om 18:58 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: > > it would be nice to have documented why we [think we] need this. > > Actually, this IS what is breaking the configure check. By setting > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the tools dir, you are telling the linker to use the