Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR (Long)

2006-02-08 Thread Jürg Billeter
ckage, the > -I/usr/include/nspr dissapears although it shows up during most of the > previous package builds - could this be a clue???* > Disabling mozilla doesn't disable all nss/nspr using projects, it only disables mozilla addressbook support for mail merge or something like that, I

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
First, thanks to the work so far to all involved. On Die, 2006-03-14 at 14:59 +1100, Greg Schafer wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: > > I've been running Alexander's tests > > (http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2006-March/056159.html) > > I agree with Alexander that every userspace heade

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
Thanks for your comments. On Die, 2006-03-14 at 13:05 -0500, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:10:27PM +0100, J?rg Billeter wrote: > > a="$(echo -ne '\001')" > > b="$(echo -ne '\002')" > > These can probably be simplified to: > > a=$'\001' > b=$'\002' Didn't know that, changed.

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2006-03-15 at 06:27 +1100, Greg Schafer wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > Yes, LLH fails that criteria and it ships with a lot of kernel-only > > stuff. Based on Jim's script I've written an extended version which > > removes a lot of headers that sh

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2006-03-14 at 14:10 +0100, Jürg Billeter wrote: > * Verify headers with real applications >Will do a full distro (800 packages) recompilation with these headers > sometime this week and fix headers resp. applications as necessary Short preliminary report after rebuilding

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2006-03-14 at 13:27 -0800, Jim Gifford wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > On Die, 2006-03-14 at 14:10 +0100, Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > > Short preliminary report after rebuilding the base system (about 240 > > packages). Following problems found so far: > &

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2006-03-15 at 09:11 +1100, Greg Schafer wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > Very short rationale is given on top of each file group. Detailed > > rationale for each header would unfortunately be too time consuming. > > Hmmm, that's not ideal. I'm assumin

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2006-03-14 at 21:49 -0600, DJ Lucas wrote: > Jürg. I haven't really looked into it, other than a grep through glibc > source, but would it be acceptable to replace these headers with > something like the following (example taken from llh linux/socket.h): > >

Re: [Fwd: [llh-announce] [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers dead]

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2006-03-15 at 20:02 +, Matthew Burgess wrote: > Unfortunately, as Jurg points out earlier in this thread, there are > plenty of headers that are missing those guards and I'm not entirely > sure that such guards are a complete solution (if they were I don't > think all the hairy looki

Re: [Fwd: [llh-announce] [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers dead]

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2006-03-15 at 21:06 +, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Roger Blake wrote: > > > Although the script might be a good *short term* plan I think an adequate > > long term solution requires a complete evaluation of *each* header - > > identifying what code to delete or include.

Re: [Fwd: [llh-announce] [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers dead]

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Don, 2006-03-16 at 00:41 +0100, Jörg W Mittag wrote: > Jim Gifford wrote: > > Some type of userspace setup is planned for 2.7, just no details at this > > time. > > Could you give some more specifics on that? I, too, remeber that > there was indeed something planned for 2.7, but that was waaa

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-17 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2006-03-14 at 22:01 +0100, Jürg Billeter wrote: > On Die, 2006-03-14 at 14:10 +0100, Jürg Billeter wrote: > > * Verify headers with real applications > >Will do a full distro (800 packages) recompilation with these headers > > sometime this week and fix headers

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-17 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 08:50 +1100, Greg Schafer wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > * headers-list: Sorted list of all found header references > > * headers-xref: Header list cross-referenced to the package names > > (useful to exclude header references of kernel modu

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 08:56 +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > - asterisk: Uses linux/compiler.h, include line could just be removed as > > linux/ixjuser.h doesn't need the compiler.h defines due to the seds we > > apply to the header

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 16:10 +, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Jrg Billeter wrote: > > > On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 08:56 +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >> Then better make linux/compiler.h an empty file. > > > > If you want to go for best compatibility, sure; I currently aim to get

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Compatibility scripts

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Fre, 2006-03-17 at 23:37 -0600, DJ Lucas wrote: > Using the above notes, I've added the following to Jürg's version of the > script so to create the 'compatibility' headers. Of course these > could be created once and be copied too...just figured I'd add to the > script so no local files m

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Compatibility scripts

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 08:24 -0500, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote: > > for FILE in `echo > > linux/{acct.h,quota.h,resource.h,socket.h,stat.h,time.h,timex.h,un.h,wait.h}` > > Er, hang on here -- why are the echo and the backquotes in there? (I > should note that they're in Jürg's script a

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Comparison Script Added

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2006-03-18 at 19:22 +, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Jrg Billeter wrote: > > > Could you post the error message? What exact header set did you use? > > Just removing linux/compiler.h without removal of compiler.h references > > and the correct seds for __user etc. is likely

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Compatibility scripts

2006-03-18 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Son, 2006-03-19 at 00:31 +, Andrew Benton wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > I've integrated most of your changes and put it online at > > http://www.paldo.org/headers/linux-glibc-headers-20060318 > > I changed the error messages in linux/compiler.h and linux/c

Re: RFC - Raw Kernel Headers -- Compatibility scripts

2006-03-19 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Son, 2006-03-19 at 12:28 -0600, DJ Lucas wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > > Yes, as I've written before, iproute2 is one of the problematic > > packages. Besides fixing the includes[1] you need to remove the local > > copy of the not sanitized kernel hea

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-07 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Fre, 2006-04-07 at 16:48 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:40 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > In that case, I'm guessing fam (gamin) is providing the notification. > > This is a good discussion, I am going to learn something here. It was > my understanding that the File

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-07 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Fre, 2006-04-07 at 23:09 +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > Probably having newer kernel headers. From gnome-vfs configure, it > > checks for linux/inotify.h or sys/inotify.h (from glibc-2.3.90+) to > > enable inotify. This is what I got with l-l-h-2.6.12.0 and > > glibc-2.

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-07 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Fre, 2006-04-07 at 17:22 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:14 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > It's the other way round. udev notifies HAL of new devices, older HAL > > versions call fstab-sync to create fstab entries on demand and > > the /

Re: Headers was RE: PROPOSAL -- new group to handle multi-project tasks

2006-06-02 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2006-05-30 at 12:02 -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: > The one thing I've realize working on this is that, not everything in > the headers will work out of the box, good example is the paging size > stuff, that requires a glibc function to get it done right. If depends > on the config.h that is

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-09-25 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 21:35 +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: > Jim Gifford wrote: > > > the bottom line is that there will be some major breakages from the > > headers_install, are you ready to tackle those? > > As Dan and I (at least) have previously stated, yes, we're prepared to > tackle any BL

Re: PAM ConsoleHelper

2007-01-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2007-01-13 at 18:29 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm fairly certain that Dan can answer this, but putting it out on list > anyway. I noticed that the GDM instructions include PAM ConsoleHelper > as a dependency but it doesn't have a URL. If I remember correctly, it > is a Red

Re: LSB bootscripts

2005-03-25 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Don, 2005-03-24 at 19:53 +0100, Edwin van Vliet wrote: > While installing LFS (development version) I have been reading the > mailing lists, and repeatedly bumped into remarks which imply that LFS > should be guided toward being an LSB compliant installation. > > Since I have recently install

Re: LSB bootscripts

2005-03-25 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Don, 2005-03-24 at 16:44 -0700, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:02 +0100, Edwin van Vliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > More questions: the LSB specifications mention "facilities" like > > $local_fs and $network, but is not very clear on the implementation of > > it all. I hav

Re: LSB bootscripts

2005-03-25 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Fre, 2005-03-25 at 15:31 +0100, Edwin van Vliet wrote: > The directories with symbolic links look like a plan to me, but I have > also been thinking of a set of configuration files, e.g.: > > $ cat /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit > start mountkernfs > start udev > start swap > start $local_fs > .

Re: Post-6.1 plans/roadmap

2005-04-02 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2005-04-02 at 08:55 +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: > Greg Schafer wrote: > > > In case anyone is interested, I have a GCC4 based build working really > > well. > > Did they get the fixincludes in there to allow building from a host with > a stock glibc-2.3.4 install on it - i.e. they fix

Re: Acrobat 7

2005-04-14 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Don, 2005-04-14 at 14:08 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Just to try it out, I donloaded a copy of Acrobat Reader 7 for Linux and > installed it. On my LFS 6.1 testing system it flashes the splash screen > and exits without any error messages of any kind. > > ldd on the binary does not show any

Re: Finished GCC4 system build...some notes

2005-07-19 Thread Jürg Billeter
em with gcc 4.0.1, GNOME 2.10, and OpenOffice.org 2.0 m116, works nice... Regards, Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: r6572 - in branches/cross-lfs/BOOK:

2005-07-26 Thread Jürg Billeter
eople of copying just because they got the same idea or did similar research. You're not the only one doing some research. BTW: I've asked Ryan why he didn't use the simpler build method and IIRC he replied that he wants to keep the compatibility with older toolchains that don't sup

Re: Medusa with nautilus: really, really, really?

2005-08-15 Thread Jürg Billeter
you can get it from beaglewiki.org HTH, Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Do we need hotplug?

2005-08-16 Thread Jürg Billeter
releases ago. > As for the input susbystem calling /sbin/hotplug directly and not > duplicating events on the netlink socket, that's OK if you don't rely > upon input module autoloading (e.g. for psmouse). Maybe this even gets fixed some time ;) Regards, Jürg --

Re: Do we need hotplug?

2005-08-16 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Die, 2005-08-16 at 20:31 +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > If you're (or anybode else is) interested in this topic, I could explain > > our approach - simplified since event recorder got upstream. > > Yep, I'd be interested, though

Re: Upcoming changes for xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Jürg Billeter
lems so far. BTW: The modular/monolithic decision will be irrelevant for future releases as 6.9 will be the last monolithic release. Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Upcoming changes for xorg

2005-08-31 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Mit, 2005-08-31 at 22:17 +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: > Jürg Billeter wrote: > > BTW: The modular/monolithic decision will be irrelevant for future > > releases as 6.9 will be the last monolithic release. > > > > I've not been keeping up with this at a

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-02 Thread Jürg Billeter
nwise to test with current 4.0 (or maybe also 4.1) snapshot as it may already have been fixed. Will test that afterwards and maybe try to create a testcase. Regards, Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-02 Thread Jürg Billeter
gt; >branches/gcc4/BOOK/chapter06/util-linux.xml > > Log: > > Correct the util-linux segfault fix > > > > -sed -i 's/-O2/-O/' MCONFIG > > +sed -i 's/-O2/-O/' configure Btw, why do you sed at all? "CFLAGS=-O ./configure" works fine her

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-03 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2005-09-03 at 08:24 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: > Maybe it wouldn't be that unwise to test with current 4.0 (or maybe also > 4.1) snapshot as it may already have been fixed. Will test that 4.0-20050901 and 4.1-20050902 are still affected. -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-03 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2005-09-03 at 08:24 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: > On Sam, 2005-09-03 at 10:35 +1000, Greg Schafer wrote: > > Better still, we should just find the bug and fix it. Why pessimize the > > whole of Util-linux just because of an intermittent bug in cfdisk? It's a > > b

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-03 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2005-09-03 at 18:53 +1000, Greg Schafer wrote: > On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:37:30 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: > > > Ok, it's not a gcc bug at all... The SEGV seems to have destroyed some > > debug info on the stack and that's the reason gdb didn't help. The &

Re: GCC4 Util-linux sed [Was: Re: r6800]

2005-09-03 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sam, 2005-09-03 at 05:26 -0400, Chris Staub wrote: > >>On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:37:30 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: > >> > >>>Ok, it's not a gcc bug at all... The SEGV seems to have destroyed some > >>>debug info on the stack and that's the rea

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-16 Thread Jürg Billeter
> > > If we do this, we could remove chroot from the Cross-LFS, since it's > only there for same arch to same arch capability. What about cross-build on cpus that support multiple archs? (e.g. x86 <-> x86_64, x86 <-> IA64, ...) Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: UDEV/Hotplug broken?

2005-10-02 Thread Jürg Billeter
st two problems with udev/hotplug :( Yes, that's the same problem. Alexander's solution is the more general way. Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Epiphany - PITA or worth it?

2005-10-13 Thread Jürg Billeter
resp. package versions are not in BLFS but might well be in the future. Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Swsusp functionality in grub/lilo? (Complete newbie question)

2005-12-07 Thread Jürg Billeter
of seconds and it normally doesn't need that much power while being suspended (less than .5 W). The only disadvantage from my perspective is that not all laptops are supported - hence that's a crucial factor when buying one. Regards, Jürg -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --

Re: HAL and "managed" /etc/fstab option

2005-12-10 Thread Jürg Billeter
is probably wrong in the BLFS > setup of not using the managed keyword in the auto-fstab entries. util-linux added support for the comment keyword some versions ago. So I just replace "managed" by "comment=managed" in 10-storage-policy.fdi and that seems to work fine. Jürg

Re: Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.12.0 and inotify.h

2005-12-25 Thread Jürg Billeter
27;t suffice to get an inotify-enabled glibc. The new syscalls are still missing. My patch [1] does this for x86 and x86_64. Regards, Jürg [1] http://www.paldo.org/paldo/sources/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers-20051121-inotify-1.patch.bz2 -- Jürg Billeter <[EMAIL PRO