Bullets in manual pages and -K groff option

2006-01-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Hello developers, this mail is related to the previous message by Werner LEMBERG where he documented the -K option of the CVS version of groff. This option allows one to specify the input encoding, and one can use construction like the following in order to get a formatted manual page as UTF-8

fr/man2html.1 manual page in man-1.6c

2006-01-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Hello Federico, Man-1.6c contains a French translation of the man2html.1 manual page. But, it is in the UTF-8 encoding, not in ISO-8859-1, and the standard Groff doesn't accept UTF-8 input. How do you view this manual page? Please mail your man.conf. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linux

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/24/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I have it fixed now. If you all could just verify it for me, > please. Also, has anyone looked at this in Konqueror or Safari? Curious > if it looks alright in those. Well, this isn't what you asked for, but it looks fine on IE-6 a

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: Well, this isn't what you asked for, but it looks fine on IE-6 and Firefox-1.5. However, the main page ain't too wiki like right now. http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/ is just a page that says anduin.linuxfromscratch.org with links to sources and ISOs. Intended? You can

RE: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread David Fix
Jeremy wrote: > I think I have it fixed now. If you all could just verify it for me, > please. Also, has anyone looked at this in Konqueror or > Safari? Curious > if it looks alright in those. > > -- > JH Looks great in IE, Jeremy. :) Unfortunately, the box I'm on only has IE 6 (6.0.2900.2180.x

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/24/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if you could spell out your steps exactly when doing an ICA (or > point me to the thread if you've said before and I missed it) that might > help - more might offer to start running the comparisons. Fortunately, I have an unpacked se

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 07:24:13AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > Also, as Greg once mentioned, I'm a little interested in putting > > ICA/farce support usage into jhalfs. That too, might make the work a bit > > easier. If you feel like helping with that as well... ;) > > I'd be glad to contribut

Re: wiki.linuxfromscratch.org time out problems

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Russell
On 1/24/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Russell wrote: > > On 1/24/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>What is the ip address of your system? > > > At home it is 24.249.5.137 > > You were blocked for excessive downloads. You downloaded two LiveCD > isos. I proba

Re: [Groff] Bullets in manual pages and -K groff option

2006-01-25 Thread Bruno Haible
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > The answer "patch > glibc so that iconv transliterates the bullet to 'o'" is better (and in > fact this is doable), but I think that users of non-Glibc systems (or > old Glibc) will complain if this becomes the official answer. Why should they complain? They can use

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > >Well, this isn't what you asked for, but it looks fine on IE-6 and > >Firefox-1.5. However, the main page ain't too wiki like right now. > >http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/ is just a page that says > >andu

Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
When I tried to look at Nico's svg file of dependencies, I found I didn't have an svg viewer. There is one built into firefox, but we don't enable it by default. Is there a reason why? I would *recommend* :) that we change this. It took me 45 minutes to rebuild FF on a 3GHz system. -- Bruce

Re: Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:24:57AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > When I tried to look at Nico's svg file of dependencies, I found I > didn't have an svg viewer. There is one built into firefox, but we > don't enable it by default. Is there a reason why? > > I would *recommend* :) that we change t

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I'm 99% certain it's not the XHTML tags. While it turned out to be CSS issues this time, I'm wouldn't be so sure about XHTML not causing us problems. Reading http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/no-xhtml.htm just recently was very enlightening! I'm not proposing we

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: > While it turned out to be CSS issues this time, I'm wouldn't be so sure > about XHTML not causing us problems. Reading > http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/no-xhtml.htm just recently was > very enlightening! I'm not proposing we drop the use of XHTML just yet, Ouch, M

Re: Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 01/25/06 13:30 CST: > According to what I read, most FF binaries come with svg built in. I > now think that it would be expected by most users and shuod be the default. Done. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Libr

Re: Anduin files

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: > This is directed to everyone who has write access to the /srv/www > area on Anduin. > > Is there any reason why you had to pull out the .../files/BLFS > area. There were production files in there and now the book is broken. > > Isn't this something that could have been di

Re: Anduin files

2006-01-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 01/25/06 15:02 CST: > Sorry if this caused a problem. Ah, heck no. I made a typo. I typed in what I thought was the URL of the Firefox .mozconfig file but I missed, and when I got a 404 error I didn't realize that I had made a typo. Again, sorry for the noise

Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Go ahead and put into LFS whatever you think is appropriate and we'll "do the right thing" afterward. OK, this is now in LFS as of r7301. Regards, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: fr/man2html.1 manual page in man-1.6c

2006-01-25 Thread Federico Lucifredi
You don't (well, you do as far as the codepages overlap). It is a screw-up. Thanks for pointing this out. -F > -Original Message- > From: Alexander E. Patrakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 01:25 PM > To: 'Federico Lucifredi' > Cc: 'LFS Developers Mailing

uClibc and kernel build

2006-01-25 Thread George Boudreau
Robert, I saw your query in the uClibc list and the reply.. whoopee, HLFS now compiles.. uClibc-0.9.28/linux-2.6.14.6 (using jhahlfs) +MALLOC_GLIBC_COMPAT=y George -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/hlfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above in

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Reading > http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/no-xhtml.htm just recently was > very enlightening! I'm not proposing we drop the use of XHTML just yet, > especially considering the few reports we've had of broken rendering, > but at least it's something to consider when

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I looked at the reference and disagree strongly. It is true that xhtml transitional allows most of the quirks of html, but xhtml strict does not. Yes, that's why I didn't make a proposal to revert back to HTML-4.01. I agree with the author on one point though: We're curre

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Dan Nicholson wrote: Hi again, Here's some results from my ICA/Farce run of yesterday. They show that the system will rebuild itself with the exception of a couple things that probably won't be fixed by me. (stdc++ .la and gch differences) These exist whether I use the LFS or DIY toolchain.

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> I looked at the reference and disagree strongly. It is true that xhtml >> transitional allows most of the quirks of html, but xhtml strict does >> not. > > > Yes, that's why I didn't make a proposal to revert back to HTML-4.01. I > agree with th

Re: ImplementingTrac - Logo

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Bruce Dubbs wrote: From the current book: Ah, I was looking at the current website (e.g. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/): http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd";> That xml declaration shoves IE and Opera into quirks mode. Additionally, the DTD claims this is an XHTML-1.1 doc but

Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Go ahead and put into LFS whatever you think is appropriate and we'll >> "do the right thing" afterward. > > > OK, this is now in LFS as of r7301. I think you need to review the text: "Package Management is an often requested addition to the LFS

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Schafer
Matthew Burgess wrote: > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someone else could just post patches and

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: > > > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Unfortunately, the *startfile_prefix_spec doesn't work (at least for > me) on gcc-4.0.2. How did you test it? I found during my initial research that this spec doesn't work when placed into an external file and called with eg: -specs=/tmp/specs. However, it did work when th

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Matthew Burgess > > What I'd like to do now is: > > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someo

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the *startfile_prefix_spec doesn't work (at least for > > me) on gcc-4.0.2. > > How did you test it? I found during my initial research that this spec > doesn't work when placed into an external file Gu

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someone else could just post patches and I'

Re: r7306 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter05 chapter06

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Schafer
jhuntwork wrote: > Author: jhuntwork > Date: 2006-01-25 20:45:12 -0700 (Wed, 25 Jan 2006) > New Revision: 7306 > > Modified: >trunk/BOOK/chapter01/changelog.xml >trunk/BOOK/chapter05/binutils-pass2.xml >trunk/BOOK/chapter06/gcc.xml >trunk/BOOK/chapter06/introduction.xml >trunk

Re: r7306 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter05 chapter06

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: > Temporary wrapper scripts? Hmmm, these are interesting changes to say the > least. They look completely bogus. You actually tested this stuff before > committing? Where is the enhanced sanity check needed to verify this > crucial stage of the build method? Why do you say this

Re: r7306 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter05 chapter06

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Schafer wrote: > > Temporary wrapper scripts? Hmmm, these are interesting changes to say the > > least. They look completely bogus. You actually tested this stuff before > > committing? Where is the enhanced sanity check needed to verify

Re: r7306 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter05 chapter06

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: > When did this stuff happen? I missed it completely. This is the > first time I ever heard of using a wrapper script. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2006-January/055024.html > Also, if you want to use -B, you have to have a trailing slash. Thanks. -- JH