Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Gerard Beekmans
How about you guys please take this in private. This is getting rather personal and this isn't the place I'm afraid. -- Gerard Beekmans /* If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem */ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
TheOldFellow wrote these words on 05/29/06 14:29 CST: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> Some of whom paid that price to defend *your* country. > > I asked because I didn't know. I took your message the wrong way. If instead of trying to make a joke, you had said, "What holiday is that you guys are honor

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread TheOldFellow
Randy McMurchy wrote: TheOldFellow wrote these words on 05/29/06 11:25 CST: What Holy Day? Please, Richard, be careful here. Lest someone will be truly offended. In America, this day is revered in memory of friends and family members that have paid the ultimate sacrifice in time of war. Some

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
TheOldFellow wrote these words on 05/29/06 11:25 CST: > What Holy Day? Please, Richard, be careful here. Lest someone will be truly offended. In America, this day is revered in memory of friends and family members that have paid the ultimate sacrifice in time of war. Some of whom paid that price

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread TheOldFellow
Randy McMurchy wrote: Who put you in charge of something as important as changing the fundamental way things are done? You gotta be kidding. You are going to call for a vote during a holiday weekend and end it during that same holiday weekend. Totally unreasonable. What Holy Day? R. -- http:

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 5/29/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By my count there are 5 that indicated contrary. Most of those said to leave things they way they are. In fact, I believe (I'm not going back to check, so I could be wrong), all 5 are editors in the project as well. Including the project co

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Mon, May 29, at 06:48:42 Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Who put you in charge of something as important as changing the > fundamental way things are done? You gotta be kidding. You are > going to call for a vote during a holiday weekend and end it > during that same holiday weekend. Totally unreason

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Pegg
Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: On Sun, May 28, at 07:04:20 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: perhaps a new book with any relative info that has to do with: a.'Handling Devices' (udev) b.'Boot process' (init schemes,bootscripts,bootmanager,etc) c.'Automounting Devices' d.'Volumes,raid

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Chris Staub
Randy McMurchy wrote: I will come back to my house late night, and if there is no serious reason against the idea, the voting procedure will come to an end. Who put you in charge of something as important as changing the fundamental way things are done? You gotta be kidding. You are going to

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 04:59:14PM +0300, Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: > > I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. > I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, > and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as members of the team. > I've been away from

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ag Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 05/29/06 01:38 CST: > Judging from the community reactions so far, it seems that is safe to assume > that > the community gave positive vote to the new project. By my count there are 5 that indicated contrary. Most of those said to leave things they way they

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-29 Thread steve crosby
On 5/29/06, Ag Hatzimanikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, May 28, at 04:59:14 Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: > > I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. > I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, > and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as mem

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sun, May 28, at 04:59:14 Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: > > I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. > I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, > and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as members of the team. > Adding Nathan Coulson in the team

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread DJ Lucas
Jim Gifford wrote: One addition, I would also like to Conathan added also, even though his time is limited. Limited?!? I thought he was coming back for prime time! ;-) -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: S

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:35:05AM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: > One addition, I would also like to Conathan added also, even though his > time is limited. For those who aren't familiar with IRC and the nicks there, Conathan == Nathan Coulson. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 5/28/06, Ag Hatzimanikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as members of the team. +1. The way I s

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Jim Gifford
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 5/28/06, Ag Hatzimanikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as members of the team. One addition, I

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/28/06, Ag Hatzimanikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. I nominate Alexander Patrakov as the new Leader of this project, and also Dan Nicholson, DJ Lucas, Ken Moffat as members of the team. +1. The way I see it, there would be

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 5/28/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If only to solve a political disagreement, sort of like an arbitrator, then great, but the only disagreement I see is there are two factions that want "their" set of rules used. I don't see a need to form a team to create a third set of rules

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ag Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 05/28/06 09:47 CST: > Hal -> boot-procces -> udev -> kernel. > > Are you happy with this answer? No. I'm more confused than before. You've thrown another thing (HAL) into the mix. And the order above makes absolutely no sense to me. (not that it is nonsensic

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sun, May 28, at 05:47:48 Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: Whoops a small mistake ,fixed. #---+ a.'Handling Devises' (udev) b.'Boot process' (init schemes,bootscripts,bootmanager,etc) c.'Automounting Devises,' d.'Volumes, raid, Partitiong sc

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sun, May 28, at 09:23:27 Randy McMurchy wrote: > > You cannot expect to get realistic or meaningful responses until you > determine and specify: > > 1. What role does this team take? > 2. What are they responsible for? > 3. Why do we need it? > 4. What is different now that hasn't been in the

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 09:23:27AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > 6. Does this "team" have its own book? (every other "team" in the >LFS projects have a book (LFS, BLFS, etc...) Er, not quite. ALFS and LiveCD at least. (You could throw Patches and Hints in there too, but for obvious reasons, I

Re: OFFICIAL PROPOSAL.

2006-05-28 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ag Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 05/28/06 08:59 CST: > I propose the creation of a new udev/bootscript/kernel/doc team. > > Please vote. You cannot expect to get realistic or meaningful responses until you determine and specify: 1. What role does this team take? 2. What are they responsible