On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:48:39PM -0700, J. Greenlees wrote:
>
> > Are you sure? The LiveCD contains LILO and uses bin86, bot nasm, to
> build it.
>
> Nope, I'm not sure. I got that dep from:
>
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/PREVIOUS_FORMAT/lilo.txt
>
> 1. What do you
2008/4/3, Alexander Kozlov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Bryan Kadzban wrote:
> >> Since that's the problem, we could move in one of two directions
> >> to fix it: either stop using any filesystem driver in the
> >> bootloader(which means, at this point, "move to LILO"), or fix
> >> the ext2/3 driv
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Bryan Kadzban wrote:
>> Since that's the problem, we could move in one of two directions
>> to fix it: either stop using any filesystem driver in the
>> bootloader(which means, at this point, "move to LILO"), or fix
>> the ext2/3 driverin grub (with the patch).
Just wo
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> J. Greenlees wrote:
>> Personally, on the svn version I'm doing a test build with, I went lilo
>> before starting and made sure I had the sources and dependencies sources.
>> [ lilo depends on nasm according to the hint on the website for
"beautifying lilo" ]
> Are
J. Greenlees wrote:
> Personally, on the svn version I'm doing a test build with, I went lilo
> before starting and made sure I had the sources and dependencies sources.
> [ lilo depends on nasm according to the hint on the website for
> "beautifying lilo" ]
Are you sure? The LiveCD contains LILO
J. Greenlees wrote:
> With the direction for LFS discussions, isn't presenting the options in
> keeping with the general input for the direction, which was to make LFS
> more a guide to creating a distro if I remember correctly than just a
> guide to building a linux system?
Indeed. We just need t
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> I'm not sure if the community has decided what direction to take here. I
> need to get some kind of boot loader into the jh branch (currently there
> is none) so I will be playing around with a more flexible approach to
> installing one there.
>
Personally, on the svn
Bryan Kadzban wrote:
> Since that's the problem, we could move in one of two directions to fix
> it: either stop using any filesystem driver in the bootloader (which
> means, at this point, "move to LILO"), or fix the ext2/3 driver in grub
> (with the patch).
I'm not sure if the community has deci
2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What distros use the new version of e2fsprogs? What boot loader do
> those distro's use?
Debian Lenny. It offers a choice among a patched version of Grub
Legacy, LILO, and GRUB2.
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:20:23AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible
> version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out.
That works great for booting LFS, but an LFS-installed grub won't be
able to boot the host's kerne
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> 2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible
>> version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out.
>
> This doesn't work: GRUB has to be compatible not only with the LFS
> versio
Selon Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible
> version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out. Of
> course, not using the most recent packages will require a note in the
> book explaining the issue.
>
Why prefer to
2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible
> version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out.
This doesn't work: GRUB has to be compatible not only with the LFS
version of e2fsprogs, but also with the hosts's
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be done
>> for
>> LFS-7.0?
>
> Based on what I've read, I vote for switching to LILO as the default.
> This has the advantage of
2008/3/19, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Does LILO still require NASM?
No, but it requires bin86.
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:07:01 -0600, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be
> done for
>> LFS-7.0?
>
> Based on what I've read, I vote for switchin
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be done
> for
> LFS-7.0?
Based on what I've read, I vote for switching to LILO as the default.
This has the advantage of making things easier for bringing
J. Greenlees wrote:
> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> 2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
>> Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order
>> to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is
>> installed.
>>
> hmm, I w
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> 2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
>
> Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order
> to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is
> installed.
>
hmm, I wonder if my borland Kylix3
2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order
to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is
installed.
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2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> GAG
Not tested yet, will do now.
> http://gujin.sourceforge.net/
Tested seveal months ago, had a conversation with the author about the
QEMU bug (unfortunately, the proposed fix broke something in SUSE) and
the bogus LANG=en argument being appende
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2161 (a blocker),
> due to recent changes in e2fsprogs, Grub-0.97 no longer works.
Grub, Grub2, Lilo have been mentioned.
A quick google search brings as result 3:
http://gag.sourceforge.net/
2008/3/17, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Instructions for the impatient:
>
> lzo-2.02: ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install
> grub-1.96: ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc && make && make
> install
>
> # the need to add --modules="pc" is a bug,
> # grub-in
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LFS Developers Mailinglist"
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Subject: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0
> Hello,
>
> as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lf
Sebastian Faulborn wrote:
> How do you mean - "not installable at all if root is on LVM2"? I have been
> using LVM2 on root together with grub for the last 2 years without problems...
That was about Grub2. Grub legacy, with a separate /boot partition, works fine.
And I mean that the command "grub
>> > > Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be
>>
> > done for
>
>> > > LFS-7.0?
>>
> >
> > What about Grub2? The time must be getting near.. Anyone use it?
>
>> Version 1.95 was not installable at all if root is on LVM2 (even if
>> /boot is on a pl
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Hello,
as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2161 (a blocker),
due to recent changes in e2fsprogs, Grub-0.97 no longer works (cannot read any
files from the resulting filesystem, cannot be installed into MBR, and the book
is thus horribly bro
2008/3/17, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What about Grub2? The time must be getting near.. Anyone use it?
I was able to make it work in QEMU in the "new ext3 on LVM2 on
/dev/hda1, no /boot partition" case. But the lack of up-to-date
documentation in the tarball and incompleteness of the docu
2008/3/17, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> They released version 1.96 on March, 3
Oops, that was in February.
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2008/3/17, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Alex, interesting. A couple of questions/observations.
>
> - Does the problem exist when Grub installation is run in its preferred
> native mode as per the Grub docs? ie: not run from within a running Linux
> kernel, but instead run from eg: a flop
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2161 (a blocker),
> due to recent changes in e2fsprogs, Grub-0.97 no longer works (cannot read
> any
> files from the resulting filesystem, cannot be installed into MBR, and the
> book
> is thus horribl
Hello,
as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2161 (a blocker),
due to recent changes in e2fsprogs, Grub-0.97 no longer works (cannot read any
files from the resulting filesystem, cannot be installed into MBR, and the book
is thus horribly broken). There are a couple of tic
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