Re: [lfs-dev] Incorporating upstream patches

2014-04-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
ns it would probably be favorable to use fixes that can be merged upstream. (With the goal of using upstream unpatched someday). I am less familiar with the MPFR patches and what they are for, most of what I wrote above is more based upon my experience with bash. -- Nathan Coulson (

Re: [lfs-dev] Thoughts about LFS and systemd

2014-03-27 Thread Nathan Coulson
an see is that it can be a bit confusing installing both including configuration files, and not sure if you would want /etc/init.d populated with the lfs-bootscripts when booting up systemd, as I think systemd can use init.d scripts during boot. (Skipping all the problems, it would be

Re: [lfs-dev] Proposal: Firmware instructions

2014-03-17 Thread Nathan Coulson
t; Unsubscribe: See the above information page For radeon, they have a handy table on the gentoo wiki to show what firmware you would want for what device. (No idea how to integrate something like that, but thought I'd throw the link out there) https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon -- Na

Re: [lfs-dev] jhalfs usable for systemd

2013-12-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
gt; > If anyone cares to verify this, I'd be grateful. I don't have either a > static ip setup nor a need for bridging interfaces since I use a laptop > with wifi. > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Uns

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Dec 13, 2013 2:06 PM, "Kevin Lyda" wrote: > > Dear children, > > I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be solely about the technical issues and not a contest to see who can be the biggest prat. > > With much love and affection, > > Kevin Reminds me of Linux 2.4

Re: [lfs-dev] sysvinit programs

2013-12-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:03 AM, akhiezer wrote: >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 23:50:45 -0800 >> From: Nathan Coulson >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] sysvinit programs >> > . > . >> >> A thought I was hav

Re: [lfs-dev] Changing the toolchain

2013-12-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
ove information page http://nathancoulson.com/proj_lfs.php I did some path modifications to ld-library.so.2 and ld-library-x86_64.so.2 in gcc at compiletime by modifiying gcc/config/i386/linux64.h. Not sure how appliable that is to your situation (and I wanted to update that page, but away from home

Re: [lfs-dev] sysvinit programs

2013-12-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
Cheers, > > Matt. A thought I was having about systemd vs sysvinit. If the books are being developed in parallel, we should probably try to use the same programs in each. ex:/ if we use pidof in procps-ng we should also use the pidof from procps in systemd. (The above is using the pidof

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
ith it. I love how it organizes the bootscripts and orders them, but just not sure if I like it handling everything it is handling). I like how your gameplan sounds, and agreed on BLFS. The scope is huge, especially when a few packages just need a few tweaks difference. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Proposed changes

2013-11-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
ecommend patching out printproto and libXp in openjdk instead of leaving them in the book. Also I left pulseaudio out of my build. I think it's required in the sense that the directions want to be absolutely sure the self compiled jdk runs exactly the same as the binary one [adhering to jav

Re: [lfs-dev] Tickets

2013-10-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
7.5-systemd milestone, but upon review I think they may be applicable to > the standard book. Thoughts? > >-- Bruce > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- Nathan Co

Re: [lfs-dev] [lfs-book] r10321 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter06 chapter08

2013-08-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
-&version;, and >> >> Well it looks like that has only been there about three years. > > Have we found evidence against Linus' Law of "given enough eyeballs, all bugs > are shallow"? :-) > I think I may have saw that a year or two back, but I think

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
at worked for me. I got it to pass all the tests. But note that >> it needs some packages beyond LFS. I don't recall which at the >> moment. I did not do the root tests in chroot, but after I rebooted. > > Personally, I am a fan of root=PARTUUID=blablabla. no initramfs/

[lfs-dev] systemd, and bridged network interfaces

2013-08-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
) is created by the ifup script, it will time out waiting for br0 to be created, instead of running the ifup script to create the device. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [lfs-dev] /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/lib64

2013-08-03 Thread Nathan Coulson
r=/tools/lib ... > > I don't think it's a good idea to put it in the book, but for people > playing around. Not much out there even looks for the lib64 folder (I think the only problem I had, was binary java, which wanted /lib64/ld-library.so.x86_64). For my own system, I just a

Re: [lfs-dev] [lfs-book] r10119 - in branches/systemd/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter06

2013-02-10 Thread Nathan Coulson
ou > might want last two in LFS, too. I would love to see things as much in sync as possible between LFS and systemd LFS. I wonder if we should switch to using sulologin and message from util-linux... not sure what we would loose, but if it has feature parity, I would prefer it. --

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
ersion identifiers. I intend to start work on the branch very shortly. > > Regards, > > Matt. Glad to see it, Always wanted to try my hand with SystemD. (Wonder if I'll love or hate it... Personally quite turned off by their /usr on a seperate partition is unsupported on bootup..

Re: [lfs-dev] gptfdisk

2012-12-29 Thread Nathan Coulson
-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B. It was difficult finding all the info I needed, but https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2 gave me a working uEFI grub setup). The uEFI setup seems more like hint material, or BLFS though. Somewhere where it can be elaborated upon. -- Nathan Coulson (cona

Re: [lfs-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-16 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: >> Looks like Gentoo have announced their udev fork, eudev >> >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/81901 >> >> I think this would fulfill our requirements, especial

[lfs-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-16 Thread Nathan Coulson
Looks like Gentoo have announced their udev fork, eudev http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/81901 I think this would fulfill our requirements, especially if more problems occur with supporting standalone udev. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada

Re: [lfs-dev] Stripping libraries

2012-08-31 Thread Nathan Coulson
the results as soon as the build is done. > > tobias Back when that text was added to the book, --strip-all removed something from the static libraries that is needed to link to them (basically making them useless). Symbol table perhaps? For testing, you would need to move the .so

[lfs-dev] patch ordering: non alphabetical

2012-07-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
the Kmod patch -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[lfs-dev] pkgconfig url nitpick (was Re: [lfs-book] r9916 - in trunk/BOOK: . bootscripts/lfs/init.d chapter01 chapter03 chapter06)

2012-07-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
esktop.org/pkg-config-&pkgconfig-version;.tar.gz";> > + > "http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config";> > > I think that http://people.freedesktop.org/pkg-config-&pkgconfig-version;.tar.gz";> should be http://pkgconf

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] ntpd uses /var/run/ instead of /run

2012-03-25 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Lemon Lime wrote: >> On 03/24/12 17:36, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>> >>>> What I should actually do on my own build, is break the /var/run >>>> symlink, and have

[lfs-dev] swap on lvm

2012-03-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
Hate posting this after the first fixes were out, but came across one more problem. If you are using lvm for swap, the mountfs stop script fails to bring down the lvm array's. I fixed this on my local system by moving the swap bootscript before mountfs on shutdown. -- Nathan Coulson (con

[lfs-dev] Fwd: Error in ipv4-static

2012-03-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Victor Wren" Date: Mar 22, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Error in ipv4-static To: Cc: I was having fits with trying to get secondary ethernet ports setup with ipv4. The scripts would neither bring up nor bring down an ip address of 172.16.24.2. I finall

Re: [lfs-dev] Build method revisions

2012-03-14 Thread Nathan Coulson
gt; a crazy amalgamation of clfs-multilib, lfs-svn-2009-08ish, and Greg's > 2009-ish compile-Linux-from-source scripts.  I haven't had time to > investigate rebuilding it.  :-/  Maybe after I get some newer hardware; > it should run OK until then, and more CPU cores will let me

[lfs-dev] LVM in lfs bootscripts

2012-03-14 Thread Nathan Coulson
vm based swap partitions. ps. I am still running on an ancient version of the lfs-bootscripts, just copied over mountfs/checkfs for the lvm parts. (Only started playing with lvm a few weeks ago). -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8)

Re: [lfs-dev] ethtool & brctl

2012-02-27 Thread Nathan Coulson
e.  But, if you make that claim, how is it > different than ethtool?  They are both technical tools, they both provide > userland views into the kernel, and I think it's safe to say that whatever > generality of usage you apply to fuser would analogously apply to ethtool. > > Whe

Re: [lfs-dev] Latest Changes

2012-02-02 Thread Nathan Coulson
bove a bit Could be worth checking the difference between using the graphical output, as opposed to ssh as well. In the past, I've noticed some slow compilations due to the computer trying to scroll the text. (xorg, intel's driver when they started switching to uxa). I suppose it'

Re: [blfs-dev] bridge-utils

2012-01-24 Thread Nathan Coulson
s for qemu qemu-system-x86_64 -net nic -net tap will create a new tap0, calls /etc/qemu-ifup tap0, which I proceed to dump into my br0 (disclaimer: not sure if I mean tun or tap) works great, although I have br0 hardcoded into my qemu-ifup script. (which on my personal PC, is fine...

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding LVM/RAID/initfamfs

2012-01-18 Thread Nathan Coulson
s ready. " > > There are some interesting benchmarks at > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2639_fs&num=1 > >   -- Bruce > -- reiserfs is mainline, even though reiserfs4 is not. Couldn't hurt saying what it is, and where to find the tools.

Re: [lfs-dev] More on systemd

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I found these links interesting. > > http://lwn.net/Articles/452865/ > http://lwn.net/Articles/453004/ > >   -- Bruce Yknow, I'd love to give systemd a chance. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Co

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Zachary Kotlarek wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > >>> To what end? I don't mean to be argumentative, but I really don't see why >>> people see a non-initramfs boot as an important or useful g

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
. It sounds like it might have enough adaptation that it could be considered a viable replacement. It also has developers willing to work with distributors to ensure it does what they require. The fact it's mentioned on freedesktop.org is also a + in my books. Sti

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Zachary Kotlarek wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > >> If we do support it, I would also like an option for initramless setups as >> well. > > > To what end? I don't mean to be argumentative, but I

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
I have been doing this since LFS 5 - LOL.  I never understood the need.  I > install to / and symlink the /usr to /. > > I think Nathan and I started on the same version of LFS 3.3.  Keep up the > good work guys! > > -- James > > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I'd like to discuss the direction of LFS with respect to where upstream >> developers appear to be going. >> >> Currently we use sysvinit and udev as t

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
host (or at least I could not figure out how to do it) but if we had something like ../gcc-4.6.2/configure --prefix=/tools --host=$LFS_TGT \ Things look much cleaner, and this could be "adapted" much easier for those who wish to stray from LFS and add on multilib. Saying that, I"v

Re: [Fwd: Re: New Blfs]

2011-10-18 Thread Nathan Coulson
e]. no use for gnome2, but people are maintaining it, and seems to be needed for a few of the applications. Been thinking I should throw my hat into the ring, I've spent the time & research on updating my personal build scripts to work, but I have never sat down & researched th

Re: udev directories

2011-09-21 Thread Nathan Coulson
linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Nathan Coulson
e /usr or /var partition. > >>> 6.  ??? >> >> Use a combination of systemd + initrd :-) > > I'm glad you used a smiley there. > >> So, based on the above, 5 is definitely something to look into I think. >>   If that doesn't pan out, then I think option 2 is the next 'least worst'. > > I agree. > >   -- Bruce Another thought (one I have not actually tested, forgive me if It's not possible) is trigger only block devices in the first pass, then try devices/subsystems on the 2nd pass? It looks like udevadm trigger could match "specific" devices, what about something like udevadm trigger --type=devices --subsystem-match block udevadm trigger --type=subsystems --subsystem-match block mountfs udevadm trigger --type=devices udevadm trigger --type=subsystems -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Gerard Beekmans > wrote: >> >>> consider myself in the ol fashion category.  All of my news&  updates >>> comes in the form of email for the most part.  Other then that, h

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
27;m all for it. but to take a page from the select vs polling discussion I would rather the forum/mailing list told me there was a new message as opposed to me checking 2-4 times a day for updates. Ideally with the contents of the post as well. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: B

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
s always felt like 2nd class citizens to email for me. There are some forums out there with a subscribe via email for updates though... that may not be as bad Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: /etc/bash_completion.d/ is not configured

2011-09-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
ately, this means that existing scripts which are installed during LFS will be broken... and not sure if I like the idea of a broken setup in LFS... -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com

Re: udev 173 requires linux 3.1 to eject dvd via button?

2011-09-09 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: >> from https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25609 >> Comment by Tom Gundersen (tomegun) - Sunday, 21 August 2011, 15:52 GMT-4 >> I had the issue explained to me by the udev maintainer, and my >> und

udev 173 requires linux 3.1 to eject dvd via button?

2011-09-09 Thread Nathan Coulson
obviously don't ship yet): <http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=88bfa3247961fe5f3623f4d2cf1cd5dc72457598>. As a temporary workaround, I suggest adding echo 2000 > /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs to your rc.local. -- Nathan Cou

Re: pkg-config tests

2011-09-03 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:40:29 -0700 > Nathan Coulson wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bruce Dubbs > wrote: > > > > > Checking BLFS, it looks like popt is used for Hd2u, pilot-link, > > &

Re: pkg-config tests

2011-09-03 Thread Nathan Coulson
t; -- Bruce > -- > bit of bloat, for having popt compiled in (probably in the kb range), but does not outweigh the cost of adding & supporting a new package. Only thing I would consider tipping the scales, is if other LFS packages could make use of it. As long as p

Re: Glibc is causing segfaults in SDL (and according to redhat's bugzilla, other programs as well)

2011-09-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>>> Glibc-2.28.8 >>> >>> Typo?  Current is 2-14. >&

Re: Glibc is causing segfaults in SDL (and according to redhat's bugzilla, other programs as well)

2011-09-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>> Glibc-2.28.8 >> >> Typo?  Current is 2-14. >> >>> I came across the problem in a self made SDL application,

Re: Glibc is causing segfaults in SDL (and according to redhat's bugzilla, other programs as well)

2011-09-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: >> Glibc-2.28.8 > > Typo?  Current is 2-14. > >> I came across the problem in a self made SDL application, with the >> following stacktrace >> >> #0  0x7f307280a0a9 in do_

Glibc is causing segfaults in SDL (and according to redhat's bugzilla, other programs as well)

2011-09-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
sym, and probably impacts anything that may dynamically load functions. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

Re: Rewrite bootscripts and Chaper 7

2011-09-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
detect if that IP Address is on the interface before removing it... otherwise two choices as xinglp says, if we started it up on startup, we will try to stop it on shutdown. Otherwise we'll leave things be. or what we have now, stop all network devices, regardless if they've been bro

Re: Spurious file

2011-08-31 Thread Nathan Coulson
oo convoluted to spot it through code inspection.  I'm not > sure why the test does that copy; removing it has no effect - the test > still passes.  I'll send a patch upstream, but I guess the book could > just remove the line prior to running either ./configure or the tests > th

Re: In Chapter 8.3, use vmlinuz instead of vmlinux to get grub-mkconfig work.

2011-08-30 Thread Nathan Coulson
. > >   -- Bruce > -- It would be worthwhile making this change. It would allow grub-mkconfig to work on other linux systems on the same computer, or give users one less step to geting grub-mkconfig working on their own lfs systems. This change would have minimal impact on peop

GCC Pass1 Cross Compile Patch

2011-08-18 Thread Nathan Coulson
we may be able to drop the patch. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: 2 Bootscript suggestions (udev_retry & setclock)

2011-08-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Matthew Burgess < matt...@linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:06:52 -0700, Nathan Coulson > wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Matthew Burgess < > > matt...@linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > > >

Re: 2 Bootscript suggestions (udev_retry & setclock)

2011-08-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
system would > > start at time zero. (But it's been many years since I tried it.) > > Hmm, I'll give it a shot this evening, although heaven knows what might > be going on in the VM world I'm running LFS in - my VM may end up having > some smarts that picks the time up from the host...we'll see. > By default, it does not set the time. There is a optional kernel option (Introduced in the last 10-20 kernel releases, can't recall when), CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS that will set the system time to the hwclock time. Thanks, > > Matt. > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Nathan Coulson
right list for this? >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, this is definitely the right list, and I am certainly interested in >> how you've integrated this into an LFS build.  I looked at it for about >> 30 minutes a couple of months ago and never got back

Re: Rewrite bootscripts and Chaper 7

2011-08-02 Thread Nathan Coulson
ormation page > yknow, about 12 hours before this email, I just finished building a new LFS build... -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: perl build problems, chapter 5

2011-07-18 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: >>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 19:26:34 -0700 >>> Nathan Coulson wrote: >>> >>>> Checking for optional libraries... >

Re: grub-1.99

2011-07-18 Thread Nathan Coulson
always > appear, if they do want to run grub-mkconfig. > > Kevin There was a recent thread about moving away from grub-mkconfig (which is what we did). http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-dev/2011-June/064836.html -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) --

Re: Bootscripts and error handling

2011-07-08 Thread Nathan Coulson
t; sequence to wait for the user to read a message. > > Should we integrate this into the LFS bootscripts? > >   -- Bruce > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > s

Re: Bootscript reorganization

2011-07-07 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: > >>> Alternatively we could use something like: >>> >>> #TYPE:IP:PREFIX:MASK:GATEWAY:BOOT >>> eth0=static:192.168.1.1:24:192.168.1.255:192.168.1.1:onboot >> &g

Re: Bootscript reorganization

2011-07-07 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: > >>> 2. Â Remove /etc/sysconfig/network-devices >>> >>> Move the scripts ifdown, iftest, and ifup to /sbin. Â Integrate >>> ipv4-static* into the if* commands. >> >>

Re: Bootscript reorganization

2011-07-07 Thread Nathan Coulson
and > /etc/rc.d/functions scripts. > > I am requesting feedback. > >   -- Bruce > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > -- Nathan Coulson (conath

Re: perl build problems, chapter 5

2011-07-03 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 19:26:34 -0700 > Nathan Coulson wrote: > >> Checking for optional libraries... >> What libraries to use? >> [-lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc -lgdbm_compat -lpthread] >> What

perl build problems, chapter 5

2011-07-02 Thread Nathan Coulson
y it chose those two test programs. If it's pkg-config, perhaps setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH is all we need. (of course if this is my fault, then that doesn't matter). My instructions worked fine until the last update (when we moved to make [which I voted for]) -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) ---

Re: perl-5.14.1

2011-06-26 Thread Nathan Coulson
t;   -- Bruce > -- it's simple, does not add too much time to the build, and gives us what we want. It's perfect. silly question, but what was the reason for only installing part of perl? I know we don't need it, but we rarely go out of our way to just install what we need in

Re: grub-1.99

2011-06-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
> the ticket open for now. > >   -- Bruce > -- not sure if I like the /dev/sda2 line in there (as opposed to a placeholder like [root device]), but I admit it does make things simpler. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage:

Re: grub dependencies

2011-06-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
do not recall too many support issues with the old static config made by hand, and we can point to the manual for more advanced configuration. Having basic knowledge on what you'd need to type manually to boot linux would also be a plus (set root=(); linux /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1), in th

Re: grub dependencies

2011-06-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
ing upstream about > that. > >   -- Bruce > -- probably better to leave out the backup option. It can be better flushed out in a blfs page, if we wanted, or we can just point to the grub manual -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PS

Re: svn bootscript regression

2011-06-07 Thread Nathan Coulson
at once. At the time, I wanted to seperate the "add ip address" functionality from the routing, and then ipv4-static-route was born. (In hindsight, setting the GATEWAY in the ipv4-static script was more convienent then two files, but still useful if you want to setup static routing).

Re: svn bootscript regression

2011-06-07 Thread Nathan Coulson
ifup > and ifdown. I could certainly put it back. > > -- DJ Lucas Many of the configuration directories end in .d, I wonder if we should switch to ifconfig.eth0.d? -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathanc

Re: Summary: Using the LSB Bootscripts

2011-05-15 Thread Nathan Coulson
t; added functionality for ifdown can be done in a modular way in > /lib/network-services so that it can be divvied up for each who needs it. > > -- DJ Lucas > dhclient, and dhcpcd checks, does get ugly if we test for specific programs. I always liked avoiding package specific work. (and the

Re: Using the LSB Bootscripts

2011-05-10 Thread Nathan Coulson
gt; > > > This license is fine with me. > > I have no objections, either. Just wondering why. > > -- > Archaic > never did give much thought into how the boot scripts were licensed myself, no objections. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia, Canada Time

Re: Is there a specific reason why dash and mawk isn't supported?

2011-05-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
g/archive/html/bug-libtool/2007-12/msg00016.html > > Andy > -- > dash is in blfs, and back about 3 years ago, worked with all the packages I used (think there was a patch I wrote up, to make java depend use #!/bin/bash in their script). bootscripts have changed little, and they support

readline nitpick

2011-04-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
we use mkdir -v /usr/share/doc/readline-6.2 in the past, we wanted to allow users to rerun commands, without failure. If we still wish to support this install -D -m755 /usr/share/doc/readline-6.2 may be a better command, as it will not complain if the directory exists. -- Nathan

Re: Thinking forward LFS-7.0

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
o "MULTILIB_OSDIRNAMES = ../lib ../lib/32" >> gcc/config/i386/t-linux64 (I use 64bit in /lib, and 32bit in /lib/32, but can be adapted for your purposes) > Andy > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See th

Re: Thinking forward LFS-7.0

2011-03-15 Thread Nathan Coulson
viruses and > dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. > > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: British Columbia,

Re: Thinking forward LFS-7.0

2011-03-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM, DJ Lucas wrote: > On 03/14/2011 12:03 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM, DJ Lucas wrote: > >> On 03/13/2011 11:39 PM, DJ Lucas wrote: >> > Okay, so I was just thinking...<Deity> >>

Re: Thinking forward LFS-7.0

2011-03-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
ld. > > * LSB Compliance - For LFS we are nearly there anyway. > > > > * Dynamic boot script - No more static list of links, this kind of ties > > into LSB Bootscripts, but there are other options. > > > Again, these two go hand in hand for me. In the current

Re: Xorg plans (Was: Re: problem with groff 1.21)

2011-01-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
where I can check right now, but AFAICT, they havent been > updated for new Mesa. Could probably use old ver, but why add another package > when other tools available? > > --DJ > They split off mesa-demo's into it's own package 8.0.1 or something... they did not want to

Re: 6.16 gcc omit-frame pointer

2010-12-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
istinfo/lfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > It was added when the oca testing started (name could be wrong, Basically making sure that when LFS built itself, the binaries did not change. The reason was to prevent the host

would a package like blender be welcome?

2010-10-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
disabled a few features I'll never use to bypass some compilation failures), but I could do the rest of the work if this is a valid candidate. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: Brittish Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com --

Re: grub configuration page

2010-10-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > I was looking at the grub page (8.4), and the grub-mkmenuconfig uses > UUID's as the root.  As far as I know, the linux kernel cannot boot > using a UUID (at least without making our own initrd). eep, sorry I was looking

grub configuration page

2010-10-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
I was looking at the grub page (8.4), and the grub-mkmenuconfig uses UUID's as the root. As far as I know, the linux kernel cannot boot using a UUID (at least without making our own initrd). -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: Brittish Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage:

Re: Explanation about grub's search command in chapter 8.4 of lfs book is wrong

2010-07-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
search, or set root, or nothing at all, it would still work as you described, with no help from the search line. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: Brittish Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: Explanation about grub's search command in chapter 8.4 of lfs book is wrong

2010-07-01 Thread Nathan Coulson
t; (the rest of the sentence does not stand well on it's own though). the linux kernel has to mount something as / and all it has to work with are (a) root=, or (b) the drive/partition# embedded at compiletime. > I think, I've started a big discussion with just one small ticket ;-)

Re: Explanation about grub's search command in chapter 8.4 of lfs book is wrong

2010-06-30 Thread Nathan Coulson
an > get an ARM together, I'll have 3 test machines.) > > ro is also unnecessary since around 2.2.x (I don't swear to that, it > could have been 2.1.x or 0.99.)   The kernel is read-only by default. Long ago, there was a recommendation that because it was a journaling files

Re: Explanation about grub's search command in chapter 8.4 of lfs book is wrong

2010-06-30 Thread Nathan Coulson
mfs. Then you can use a few shell scripts to find the root instead. This is how distributions make root=UUID=abcdefg or root=LABEL=os work). So, regardless if you search or not, or set root manually, this has no effect once the kernel boots. You either need root=/dev/sda1, or you need to u

Re: Explanation about grub's search command in chapter 8.4 of lfs book is wrong

2010-06-30 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: >> On 30/06/10 19:33, Stuart Stegall wrote: >>> >>> Seems like it should be the simplest way possible.  Personally I don't >>> like the grub-m

Re: FYI: Multilib broken

2010-02-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
ded to reproduce > the error. > > -- > JH > -- Old, a bit stale, but I began such a hint. (Only chapter 5 so far) http://nathancoulson.com/proj_lfs.shtml. Unfortunately I took a step backwards to make it work by going to the previous build system. I recall someone ment

Re: Linux kernel headers installs .install and ..install.cmd files

2009-11-20 Thread Nathan Coulson
S system. Something like rm -rf /tools/include/linux/.*linux * [note the space before the *] could have an adverse effect outside of the build system. [inputted into wrong terminal, ssh terminal closing before entering command, mounted root system within LFS system, /dev directory] Disclaimer:

unofficial multilib example build [Chapter 5]

2009-10-23 Thread Nathan Coulson
me. http://nathancoulson.com/proj_lfs.shtml -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: Brittish Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above i

Re: I got error at chapter 8.4. GRUB-0.97

2009-10-23 Thread Nathan Coulson
s.txt for further information on bootwait usbutils is not required. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- Location: Brittish Columbia, Canada Timezone: PST (-8) Webpage: http://www.nathancoulson.com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratc

Re: I got error at chapter 8.4. GRUB-0.97

2009-10-22 Thread Nathan Coulson
device appears (It wont, but it'll keep it from panicing) by adding bootwait to the end of the line [see linux-2.6.??/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt for information on this flag if you like]. Most likely, your kernel is either missing drivers for your kernel (not comp

Re: I got error at chapter 8.4. GRUB-0.97

2009-10-21 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Nathan Coulson wrote: > >> /boot/device.map should contains a listing of all drives, and the >> partition they map to. >> >> ex:/ if you have 2 drives, and one floppy disk, it could contain. >> (hd0) /dev

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