Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Andrew Benton wrote: >>> It seems to me that we should remove udev from LFS and point >>> anyone who needs it at the systemd page in BLFS. They've shown >>> that they're integrating udev more tightly with systemd, we >>> should move away from it. >> L

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: >> It seems to me that we should remove udev from LFS and point anyone >> who needs it at the systemd page in BLFS. They've shown that they're >> integrating udev more tightly with systemd, we should move away from >> it. > > Let's see what they say whe

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Andrew Benton wrote: > It seems to me that we should remove udev from LFS and point anyone > who needs it at the systemd page in BLFS. They've shown that they're > integrating udev more tightly with systemd, we should move away from > it. Let's see what they say when I post the configure.ac / Mak

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:39:59 +0100 Bruce Dubbs >> wrote: >> >>> The current version, Dan's version, and the 'lite' verion all >>> fail the same test for me. >> I get the same test failure with both pkg-config-0.26 and >> pkg-config-lite-0.26-1. With b

[lfs-dev] perl chapter 5 fails

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt, Trying a fresh build, perl 5.16.0 fails to configure. As user lfs: $ sh Configure -des -Dprefix=/tools Directories to use for library searches? [/lib/../lib64 /usr/lib/../lib64 /lib /usr/lib /tools/lib] ... What libraries to use? [-lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc -lgdbm_c

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd - another failed attempt.

2012-06-01 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:34:51 +0100 Ken Moffat wrote: > 2. but then make dies at > CC src/shared/libsystemd_units_la-install.lo > In file included from src/shared/path-lookup.h:33:0, > from src/shared/install.c:33: > ./src/core/manager.h:28:23: fatal error: dbus/dbus.h: No

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/01/2012 01:13 PM, Armin K. wrote: [putolin] > Ah yes ... Some apps use those for loading modules. For example, > cyrus-sasl is one of those, but I've patched it not to use them, but the > .so ones directly. Among those is mpg123 which also uses .la files by > default but they can be overwri

[lfs-dev] systemd - another failed attempt.

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
I've been trying to get this thing working using the attached patch. Basically, it's some things already in upstream, plus Andy's response to Dan's second "get-us-started" patch, with Bruce's additions to configure.ac applied by hand because it wasn't an incremental diff. Originally, I was using

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:15:37PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Dan's version also passes all checks with --with-installed-popt. There >> is a note in BLFS that says popt-1.16 will create a failure in >> pkg-config's make. I didn't find that in Dan's version. >> >> I'm going

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:15:37PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Dan's version also passes all checks with --with-installed-popt. There > is a note in BLFS that says popt-1.16 will create a failure in > pkg-config's make. I didn't find that in Dan's version. > > I'm going to start working on

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:39:59 +0100 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> The current version, Dan's version, and the 'lite' verion all fail the >> same test for me. > > I get the same test failure with both pkg-config-0.26 and > pkg-config-lite-0.26-1. With both of them I can make al

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:39:59 +0100 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> The current version, Dan's version, and the 'lite' verion all fail the >> same test for me. > > I get the same test failure with both pkg-config-0.26 and > pkg-config-lite-0.26-1. With both of them I can make al

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: >> - >> >> Reading the pkg-config mailing list, I don't get any feel for when the >> next freedesktop version will be released, but am inclined to add Dan's >> version now and then update later when a suitable freedesktop version is >> released. The last freede

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:39:59 +0100 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > The current version, Dan's version, and the 'lite' verion all fail the > same test for me. I get the same test failure with both pkg-config-0.26 and pkg-config-lite-0.26-1. With both of them I can make all tests pass if I configure them --

Re: [lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:39:59 +0100 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I am of the opinion that we should re-introduce pkg-config into LFS. I > think it would make things simplier for both LFS and BLFS. > > pkg-config would make building kmod, libpipeline, man-db, and > udev/systemd all easier in LFS. > >

[lfs-dev] pkg-config

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I am of the opinion that we should re-introduce pkg-config into LFS. I think it would make things simplier for both LFS and BLFS. pkg-config would make building kmod, libpipeline, man-db, and udev/systemd all easier in LFS. In addition, there are numerous packages in BLFS that mention pkg-conf

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Armin K.
On 06/01/2012 06:59 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:16:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >> That may be more recent, but Ubuntu 7.04 (32 bit) has 248 .la files and >> Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit) has 217 .la files. >> > On this 32-bit netbook (where I still haven't had time to even tr

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:16:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > That may be more recent, but Ubuntu 7.04 (32 bit) has 248 .la files and > Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit) has 217 .la files. > On this 32-bit netbook (where I still haven't had time to even try building my own kernel, much less sort out the

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:16:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: > > > > Removal process is the following: find /usr/lib /lib -name *.la -delete > > Nothing else. I'll try 64bit system since I have 64bit capable hardware > > now ... But I tell you, every distribution does not have a

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 06/01/2012 05:45 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:04:59PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: >>> oh man, I can't believe you still use libtool files for compiling >>> programs. Every sane distro has removed them ... I haven't got any >>> single of them on my machine and

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:05:18AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Perhaps: >> >> # Generated by libtool >> # and customized by LFS >> > That sounds good enough. >>> That is good enough to get past that first problem (probably better >>> if Custom file was replaced by something t

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Armin K.
On 06/01/2012 05:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: > >> oh man, I can't believe you still use libtool files for compiling >> programs. Every sane distro has removed them ... I haven't got any >> single of them on my machine and yet everything works perfectly ... So >> tell me, have you tr

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Armin K.
On 06/01/2012 05:45 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:04:59PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: >> >> oh man, I can't believe you still use libtool files for compiling >> programs. Every sane distro has removed them ... I haven't got any >> single of them on my machine and yet everything work

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:05:18AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Perhaps: > > # Generated by libtool > # and customized by LFS > That sounds good enough. > > That is good enough to get past that first problem (probably better > > if Custom file was replaced by something to clarify it's not rea

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:04:59PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: > > oh man, I can't believe you still use libtool files for compiling > programs. Every sane distro has removed them ... I haven't got any > single of them on my machine and yet everything works perfectly ... So > tell me, have you tried

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > oh man, I can't believe you still use libtool files for compiling > programs. Every sane distro has removed them ... I haven't got any > single of them on my machine and yet everything works perfectly ... So > tell me, have you tried NOT to install that file? libtool will fall

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 09:13:08PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: > func_lalib_unsafe_p () > { > lalib_p=no > if test -f "$1" && test -r "$1" && exec 5<&0 <"$1"; then > for lalib_p_l in 1 2 3 4 > do > read lalib_p_line >

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Armin K.
On 06/01/2012 04:33 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 09:13:08PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> >>> libtool: link: `/usr/lib64/libudev.la' is not a valid libtool >>> archive >> >> libtool is a (long) shell script generated with configure. I found that >> phrase in

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 09:13:08PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > libtool: link: `/usr/lib64/libudev.la' is not a valid libtool > > archive > > libtool is a (long) shell script generated with configure. I found that > phrase in 10 different places. Can you instrument it an

Re: [lfs-dev] Once more: Package Management

2012-06-01 Thread James Robertson
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jeremy Huntwork < jhuntw...@lightcubesolutions.com> wrote: > On 5/31/12 4:41 PM, James Robertson wrote: > > > 1. Adding PM is NOT a replacement for the books. It should also be > > noted and clear that the purpose of this effort is not to turn (B)LFS > > into a bi

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS SVN and Systemd Report

2012-06-01 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:22:00 +0100 Andrew Benton wrote: > When they merged udev and systemd they said that it'd be possible to > install just udev without systemd but with the very first merged > release it is impossible to install udev without all of systemd's > dependencies...it makes me wonder