Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > But if that's the case, headers_check re-runs everything you > just did in 'headers_install', which makes the 'headers_install' kind of > pointless. To me, it seems more like 'headers_check' is an extension of > 'headers_install', adding an extra step of verification.

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: FFS, this whole new way of obtaining sanitized headers has become known as the "make headers_install" method and you've gone and removed that very command! Not very educational IMHO. Hope it's clearer now. Alright, I can see where you're coming from. So ideally, to make use

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Have you actually studied the Makefile contents? The results of the > current commands would be the same as if you ran (which, btw, would also > avoid the problem with removing /tools/include): > > make mrproper > make headers_check > make headers_install > cp -av usr/

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: Ummm, you completely missed the point. The /tmp removal stuff is fine. The removal of `make headers_install' is what's questionable. Have you actually studied the Makefile contents? The results of the current commands would be the same as if you ran (which, btw, would also

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > This has nothing to do with the way other packages work. This is *only* > applicable with this particular package and its Makefile. Why make a > temporary directory outside the build tree, install it there first, and > then manually move it to its final location when it

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: This is because the target 'headers_check' includes 'headers_install' as a dependency, and therefore runs that first: You're obfuscating here for no good reason. In fact, your logic is flawed. Taking your view to extremes, why even specify "make" when

Re: Upgrade to Linux-2.6.18

2006-11-24 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Actually, after looking through the Linux Makefile a bit, I think our > commands for chapter 5 linux-headers can be simplified to the following: > > patch -Np1 -i ../linux-2.6.18.1-unifdef-1.patch > make mrproper > make headers_check > cp -Rv usr/include/* /tools/include

Re: svn access

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Can't keep away, eh? Yeah, it's a sickness. There should be a LFS rehab center somewhere... Any help is appreciated. You are good to go. Thanks, looks like it works. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/

Re: svn access

2006-11-24 Thread Alan Lord
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hey All, Would anyone mind if I helped out a bit with the development here again? If not, I would require svn access. If so, well, fair enough. :) Can't keep away, eh? Any help is appreciated. You are good to go. -- Bruce It's good to see you b

Re: svn access

2006-11-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Hey All, > > Would anyone mind if I helped out a bit with the development here again? > If not, I would require svn access. If so, well, fair enough. :) Can't keep away, eh? Any help is appreciated. You are good to go. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Stef Bon
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Stef Bon wrote: >> What do you think about unionfs? >> The existing situation works, but this new construction looks good. >> > > Unionfs was used with LFS-6.1 LiveCDs. It has been dropped then, for a > reason: too buggy, especially on SMP. Try running "make chec

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Ismael Luceno
Stef Bon escribió: > Hello all, > > well I've posted a howto on howtoforge with something about LFS: > > http://www.howtoforge.com/ihlfs_full_control_over_what_youre_installing > > It's about the control you can get over a installation (or everything that > does modifications on your system) wit

svn access

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey All, Would anyone mind if I helped out a bit with the development here again? If not, I would require svn access. If so, well, fair enough. :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Ismael Luceno
Stef Bon escribió: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >> Stef Bon wrote: >>> What do you think about unionfs? >>> The existing situation works, but this new construction looks good. >>> >> Unionfs was used with LFS-6.1 LiveCDs. It has been dropped then, for a >> reason: too buggy, especially on S

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Stef Bon wrote: >> /tools is also used instead of /usr to _separate_ the temporary >> tools built in the ch.5 from the resulting ones built in the ch.6. > > > Ok is this nesassary? It has to be seperate? I do not understand why. Way back in version 3.something of the book (I think anyway), there

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Stef Bon
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Stef Bon wrote: >> What do you think about unionfs? >> The existing situation works, but this new construction looks good. >> > > Unionfs was used with LFS-6.1 LiveCDs. It has been dropped then, for a > reason: too buggy, especially on SMP. Try running "make chec

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Stef Bon wrote: What do you think about unionfs? The existing situation works, but this new construction looks good. Unionfs was used with LFS-6.1 LiveCDs. It has been dropped then, for a reason: too buggy, especially on SMP. Try running "make check" for glibc on unionfs. Or (for stress te

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Stef Bon
Vladimir A. Pavlov wrote: > Hi, Stef! > > The idea is really great but I think there are several problems with > it :( > > AFAIK UnionFS isn't in the mainline kernel at the time and we cannot > force people to download, build and modprobe a third-party kernel > module. > > Many people believe i

Re: Use of unionfs to build lfs in stage 5 en 6.

2006-11-24 Thread Stef Bon
Vladimir A. Pavlov wrote: > Hi, Stef! > > The idea is really great but I think there are several problems with > it :( > > AFAIK UnionFS isn't in the mainline kernel at the time and we cannot > force people to download, build and modprobe a third-party kernel > module. > > Many people believe i