Might I submit that my impression is that Kaloz (at least) holds
infrastructure hostage to maintain control, and that the fundamental
problem here is that OpenWrt is *not* democratic and ignores what people
who were ones visibly working on openwrt want and overrides their wishes
because he/they has
On 16-05-05 03:22 PM, mbm wrote:
> On 5/5/2016 7:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> Many of the changes that we previously tried to introduce were often
>> squashed by internal disagreements. Resulting discussions often turned
>> toxic quickly and led to nothing being done to address the issues.
>> Set
I am concerned that git signing gives little, if any value, while making
it harder to contribute (and making it easier to contribute is one of
the *stated* goals of LEDE) and is another example of a tendency toward
a particular brand of technical elitism that will kill this project if
not nipped in
On 16-05-14 02:20 AM, L. D. Pinney wrote:
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On 16-05-16 03:29 PM, John Crispin wrote:
>
> the voting does not effect the actual coding work. it more relates to
> infrastructure, political and release related decisions. i think we are
> talking about the day 2 day interaction here.
>
> what i dont get is how emails vs irc would resolve the
On 16-05-16 05:18 PM, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
> The objective is so that you don't have isolated pools of TZ's where one
> TZ has little insight into what the other TZ is doing and has no *good*
> mechanisms for communicating across timezones.
>
> Reading IRC ch
On 16-05-17 05:22 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> well that is status quo, IRC is used to discuss real time stuff and give
> user support.
>
> all other stuff is on the list. meetings being the only thing still on
> IRC due to lack of better options right now. meetings are however held
> late during EU
On 16-05-18 12:52 AM, John Crispin wrote:
>
>
>> I was told in the past by one of founding LEDE team members (who shall
>> rename nameless unless he chooses to comment himself), that if I really
>> wanted to participate in OpenWrt community that I needed to be on IRC
>> (in a private mail to me).
On 16-05-18 01:05 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we had previously started building the infra for running stuff as !root.
> so far we have added
>
> * the userid/gid stuff
> * acl on ubus
>
> things that i know are missing
>
> * handling network ports < 1024
>
> what am i missing ? can anyo
Hi all,
I had a patch that I submitted to the openwrt list sometime back that
launched multiple instances of dnsmasq, so long as the instances were
either tied to specific, non-overlapping, interfaces, or used different
dns port, but at least in the case of different interfaces it only
worked (to
On 16-05-18 02:32 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> it probably checks for a pid file or similar to see if it is already
> running. inside a jail it essentially only runs once as it is a
> container. so i would guess its pid file of proc table related.
It is most likely proc table then (I had separate pid
On 16-05-18 07:17 AM, Arjen de Korte wrote:
> Citeren Daniel Dickinson :
>
>
> I guess "vfat" should be checked with dosfsck and "ext" with e2fsck.
>
Ah, the old you see what you expect to see psychology thing - I missed that.
Regards,
Daniel
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On 16-05-18 07:31 AM, Conor O'Gorman wrote:
> On 18/05/16 12:21, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
>> On 05/18/2016 12:12 PM,l...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote:
>>> >Hi John,
>>> >
>>> >I haven't tested these changes yet,
> Testing would be good before next submission.
The whole point of the [RFC] is that it's
Hi John,
It looks like on ar71xx MS_ACL is not defined in linux/fs.h in the
default kernel. It must have been added later than 4.1 (I believe that
is the version ar71xx is currently on).
I guess my desktop system is a newer kernel that has symbols (I didn't
have a build tree handy to check at th
Oh, it uses MS_POSIXACL. I'll check if that changes in newer trees.
On 16-05-19 03:22 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> Hopefully before I crash tonight I will have something to report. I'm
> in the process of a build now.
>
> On 16-05-19 02:07 AM, John Crispin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18/05/2016 13:28,
On 16-05-19 06:09 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 04:40:34PM +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
>> Bjørn wrote:
>>> Yes, this is extremely unfair. Just like the I'm sure some
>>> developers saw the original LEDE announcement. Good intentions are
>>> not enough. It's the result
> anyway, that's my perspective as an outsider (who has 15 years of
> experience in some *big* openly governed communities) ...
Since you obviously feel there are other communities doing this right,
perhaps you'd like to share the *names* of these examples so that LEDE
can look at what they're doi
On 16-05-20 01:01 AM, David Lang wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>
>> Do I think there are potentially problems, like my, and others,
>> impressions, that there is a fair amount of back channel (private) email
>> that *isn't* part of the p
On 16-05-20 03:13 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:40:21PM -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>>> anyway, that's my perspective as an outsider (who has 15 years of
>>> experience in some *big* openly governed communities) ...
>>
>&
On 16-05-20 03:13 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:40:21PM -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>>> anyway, that's my perspective as an outsider (who has 15 years of
>>> experience in some *big* openly governed communities) ...
>>
>&
On 16-05-20 04:08 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
>>
> the whole point of my side sentence was to give a hint that maybe my
> impressions and suggestions are not entirely unfounded or discardable.
> it's up to the reader to check my "creds" if they don't take my word.
> this didn't imply anything in
On 16-05-20 05:44 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 04:13:37AM -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>> On 16-05-20 04:08 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
>>>>
>>> the whole point of my side sentence was to give a hint that maybe my
>>&
On 16-05-20 06:32 AM, Bruno Randolf wrote:
>> The issue I have is not with the notion of transparency, but that that
>> you imply that your particular view isn't just an opinion but based on
>> experience, but then you turn around and say it's irrelevant whether the
>> communities are open or not.
On 16-05-20 05:41 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Daniel Curran-Dickinson writes:
>
>> I wasn't meaning it to be hostile (the other guy I think was),
>
> who? me? No, grumpy is just my default mode. I need to work on that.
> But I never rant without caring, so "hostile&
On 16-05-20 06:36 AM, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>
> Sorry, I got on this tack because if his hostile approach to the LEDE
> project. If he had had a constructive approach I wouldn't likely have
> gotten off track this way. Still as Bjorn reminded me, we should be
> nice
Hi,
I've noticed a new package option PKG_FLAGS. What are the flags
available, in and particular what does the one I've seen (nonshared) do?
Regards,
Daniel
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Hi all,
I know this is off-topic, but does anyone know of linux app that one can
use to intercept one's emails and force oneself to decide some hours
later if one *really* wants to send the email? Or an email service with
such a feature?
Regards,
Daniel
On a somewhat related although not identical note, I've thought for some
time that even though I did the initial implementation of extroot that I
really am not a fan of the extroot concept.
I'd rather see better support non-root opkg install targets.
This means
a) Including opkg destinations in
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vocal unrealistic idealogues).
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On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:24 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Something seems to have broken with serial console, at least on ar71xx,
> possibly because the login.sh stuff.
>
> If you don't have passwords required on the serial console and you exit
> the shell, the shell doesn't resp
On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 05:22 -0400, l...@daniel.thecshore.com wrote:
> [PATCH 1/2] block.c: Make static string a const char * instead char *
> [PATCH 2/2] block.c: Add support for checking vfat filesystems
I forgot to mention I have tested both vfat and ext4 on ar71xx (Netgear
WNDR3800).
Filesyst
Hi all,
There seems to be some confusion because of the way I use RFC. I've
(unless otherwise stated in the PR) intended RFC for looking over code
and commenting before I debug and test (e.g. to make sure the approach
is even in the right ballpark).
I will try to make that clear in the PR from n
On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 16:03 -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There seems to be some confusion because of the way I use RFC. I've
> (unless otherwise stated in the PR) intended RFC for looking over code
> and commenting before I debug and test (e.g. to ma
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 23:57 +0200, Zoltan HERPAI wrote:
[snip]
> Hi,
> >> I would like to see a reunion of LEDE and OpenWrt, so do any of the non
> >> LEDE but OpenWrt core devs have any problems with the LEDE rules and so on?
> >>
> > This is my personal opinion and this was not somehow internal
On Tue, 2016-05-24 at 23:57 +0200, Zoltan HERPAI wrote:
[snip]
> Hi,
> >> I would like to see a reunion of LEDE and OpenWrt, so do any of the non
> >> LEDE but OpenWrt core devs have any problems with the LEDE rules and so on?
> >>
> > This is my personal opinion and this was not somehow internall
Hi,
On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 16:57 -0700, gree...@candelatech.com wrote:
> From: Ben Greear
>
> This should make x86-64 targets more useable out of the box.
> The assumption is that most x86-64 users have adequate storage,
> and those that do not can still config away the options they
> do not ne
On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 03:43 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Delbar Jos wrote:
>
> > We are conscious of the fact that together with the proposals made by
> > Felix,
> > Luka and Wojtek we are now looking at many "competing" proposals. As a next
> > step, we recommend to organiz
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Hi Dave,
I don't speak for the LEDE team, but it looks to me a lot of your
problem is that you are using LEDE/openwrt for far bigger iron than the
primary target (standard routers, including pre-AC non-NAND ones, which
are really quite small and low powered). 2 TB+ storage for example, or
using l
On Mon, 2016-06-13 at 11:17 +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no need to overreact :) I think parts of the topics are about the
Hope you're referring to Pinney and not me! I was concerned because
Dave Taht's email and David Lang's post) seemed to me to imply changing the
defaults to sui
On Mon, 2016-06-13 at 22:10 +0200, Etienne Champetier wrote:
> Before we try to minimize writes, how much writes are we talking about?
> my openwrt routers have multiple months of uptime, and even if we get
> down to 1 week, that gets us to 53 writes a year.
> How much writes can a flash handle th
On Tue, 2016-06-14 at 11:05 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2016-06-13 at 11:17 +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> no need to overreact :) I think parts of the topics are abo
Hi,
I'm thinking since I'll be having limited time to LEDE for a while that
once we know what we're doing for bug report system that I should
prioritize the LuCI and command line bug report info tool (to maximize
usefulness of bug reports) and that's probably the most useful thing I
can work on in
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Z wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:03 AM, David Lang wrote:
> > With Imagebuilder and things pre-compiled, what does it take to create an
> > image? I'm wondering if this is something that can be converted to a web UI
> > where we could have someone sele
Hi David,
Thanks for the good info on wear levelling; apparently I was misinformed
on the topic.
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 01:03 -0700, David Lang wrote: [snip]
> >>> To a certain extent though, I question the need for something as
> >>> restricted as OpenWrt
> >>> for the new bigger devices anywa
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 19:52 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> Is there a list of hardware that is needed? (or do you want donations of
> money
> for the project to buy hardware)?
TBH I'm not sure how useful random hardware donations are. For example
getting a router which is more than just updating i
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 02:50 -0500, L. D. Pinney wrote:
> From the OP
>
> I wanted to ask folks whether they want me to continue to cross post to these
>
Quite frankly I think it's great that companies are stepping up and
contributing back - I think the lack of that is a frustration that more
th
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 16:55 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:22 PM, L. D. Pinney wrote:
> > It's a Development List ... no place for corporate agendas.
>
> I think you are making a good point here, being that there is only one
> lede list, presently, and devs would like to jus
On Sun, 2016-06-19 at 12:35 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Z wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:03 AM, David Lang wrote:
> >>> With Imagebuilder and things pre-comp
Hi John,
On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 09:57 +0200, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the issue tracker now announces bug reports on this list
>
I missed the announcement of the issue tracker; has it been finalized or
still in testing? If finalized I should take a look at working on the
automated info ga
Hi Ted,
On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 19:06 -0400, Ted Hess wrote:
> Daniel -
>
> Subject to a few more folk's OKs and an up-coming adm meeting, I think we are
> going to go forward with Flyspray. There is no other
> proposed systems on deck for testing, so this is it unless someone proposes
> an alt
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 11:43 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> I agree. There may be some devices with extremely small flash that
> can't fit
> luci, but otherwise I think it should be on the default images that
> people are
> pointed at.
>
> Having a second set of images without luci isn't a bad idea,
Hi all,
I just thought I would observe that sometimes it's kind of fuzzy
between when as a dev one is making appropriate suggestions for
improvement and when one is unconsciously engaging in bikeshedding on
work someone has done. I won't claim it's easy, just pointing out that
there is a differen
Hi Felix,
I'd like clarification on
https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=71753a8286dcb
4dedbb6d4792b0fd5dd305c3338
for two reasons: with a patch picking a default SSL provider, the two
packages in commit emitted a recursive dependency error.
It made sense to me that it
Hi all,
I've noticed that LEDE default locale seems to be ANSI_X3.4-1968,
however Ubuntu 16.04 does not let you set that locale (an error is
thrown if LC_CTYPE is set to that string).
For things where locale matters, how does one alter the locale for
LEDE?
Regards,
Daniel
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Hi all, but especially Felix and John,
I am rather frustrated with the fact that whole point of my URFC
concept seems to have failed. The point of URFC is not free debugging,
it is to avoid things like the DEFAULT_/DEVICE_TYPE patch where I spend
a ton of time debugging and testing, but a quick o
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