Just a quick post on my results with a new set of RV-style wheel pants.
Background: Tri-Gear Stock KR2S, RAF48 airfoil, ~650 lbs empty. 80 HP
Revmaster 2100D. 111 KTAS cruise (no wheel pants).
Mains (only) Speed Increase = 7knots
Nose Gear (only) Speed Increase = 4 knots
Total Speed Increa
I recently contacted Klaus at Lightspeed and he sold the molds to
aerocomposites in Ukiah, CA. They are in the process of making a set for me.
Chris Pryce
> Personally, I used Klaus Savier (Light Speed Engineering) wheel pants,
> but he's been unresponsive when asked about making any more, so I
I talked to John Backer, and he said he gave a set of molds to somebody
at the Gathering several years ago, so there's a set of molds out there
somewhere. He's not wild about making more, especially in the dead of
the Iowa winter.
Personally, I used Klaus Savier (Light Speed Engineering) whee
Lee
I would be interested. I was going to wait until after my airplane flew to
address the issue of wheel pants but I guess it won't hurt to have them ready
and fabricated when I return to earth safe and sound...
Luis R Claudio
On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 05:10:38 PM CST, donald january vi
Might want to check with Bill Clapp. DJ T-mono
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:05 PM Lee Van Dyke via KRnet
wrote:
> I have a set of John’s and Rand, I can make a mold of either a d sell them
> cheap. I have a freezer full of carbon pre preg I was looking to use
>
> Lee Van Dyke
>
> > On Feb 14, 2021
I have a set of John’s and Rand, I can make a mold of either a d sell them
cheap. I have a freezer full of carbon pre preg I was looking to use
Lee Van Dyke
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet
> wrote:
>
> Netters
> Does anyone know if John Backer is still making wheel pants
I'm interested also!
Thanks!
Ron Brown
Swartz Creek, MI
8102620778
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 3:35 PM Pete Klapp via KRnet
wrote:
> Netters
> Does anyone know if John Backer is still making wheel pants?
>
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Netters
Does anyone know if John Backer is still making wheel pants?
If so if anyone has his contact info it would be greatly appreciated. A local
builder is looking for wheel pants for his project.
Thanks I’m advance for my help you can provide,
Pete Klapp, N729PK
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Thank You to all that responded! I wish I had a website where I could
post pictures, guess that is the next item to deal with!
I managed to find some small driving lights that (with a little time and
patience) will "flush-up" into the nose of the pants and actually take
on the original curvatu
It is a personal choice and depends on how much snow, slush, and mud your
local area gets.
Some guys will remove their wheel pants each winter and others will
reframe from flying when their is snow or slush on the runways and taxiways.
Brant Hollensbe
Bhollensbe at mchsi dot com
Des Moines,
Is it customary to leave wheel pants on in the winter months on a KR? I really
don't know, so I'm asking. Seems that at my airport wheel pants are removed on
all aircraft in the winter. And I would imagine that the lights would go
through abuse they were not designed for. Seems that every time I
The plane I'm getting is already fitted for the wheel pant lights, but when
I do the tanks (after I finish my BD4, I don't want two planes on the ground
out of the air) I think I will put them in the leading edge as well. Might
leave the ones in the pants alone as long as they don't break but mostl
throwing,
until I could build some racing fenders. la...@lebanair.com
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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Teate, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Wheel Pants Landing Lights
"I g
"I guess I'm looking for pros and cons more than anything."
The most abused components on airplanes are tires and wheel pants. Even if you
don't operate off grass or dirt strips they just take a beating especially if
they are in the prop wash which basically means sand blasted. Already mentioned
Dave Dunwoodie Wrote
> So the bottom line question is how to align them? With the airplane in
> straight and level flight, where should the vertical beam be pointing?
> Straight ahead? Down by 6 degrees? Up by 6 degrees? Something like that?
I would sooner retrofit a landing light into the eng
Hi Dave,
The person, I'm getting my KR2 project from went the same route, though I
would really like to hear everyones opinion on this, as I was worried that a
wet runway would splash the inside of the wheel pants alot with water.
Thoughts?
Joe
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Dave Dunwoodie wro
I guess I'm looking for pros and cons more than anything.
I came VERY close to installing landing lights in the wings, but it
immediately became apparent that this would become an expensive
(intimidating) process.
As I am in the process of adding wheel pants, I thought that perhaps a
good shot
Devon, UK
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From: Ray Fuenzalida [mailto:ray_pi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 19 February 2010 16:49
To: mike.m...@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: RE: KR> wheel pants
Looks good. But is it more decorative than functional? Does it give any
aerodynamic benefit? Thanks.
Ray
New Orleans
.net] On Behalf
Of Jeff York
Sent: 17 February 2010 20:55
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> wheel pants
Does anyone have some nice detailed pictures of how they did their wheel
pants specific to the main gear.
>
>
>I have started and stopped the completion of my main wheel pant
>installation mostly because I do not know if I should or should not
>constuct a backing plate assembly on the gear leg side of the installation.
> Jeff York
Does anyone have some nice detailed pictures of how they did their wheel pants
specific to the main gear. Maybe if you know which completed or under
construction sites on the KRnet lists.
I have started and stopped the completion of my main wheel pant installation
mostly because I do not know
What a way to start a day
This morning at daybreak I made my first flight with the wheel pants installed
on my plane. What a huge difference in speed. I was tooling along straight and
level at 3000' at 160 MPH TAS. Check this link for details and photos:
http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html
That is impressive. How much did the pants for the mains cost? I take
it they are of the pressure recovery variety?
Jeff
On 5/25/07, Mark Jones wrote:
> What a way to start a day
>
> This morning at daybreak I made my first flight with the wheel pants
> installed on my plane. What a huge di
Congratulations Mark! That is the information I was hoping
to hear. They look good on there too. I think you will get
a little more improvement when you get the gear leg faired
into the pant and the area over the brake closed. Thanks
for the pictures.
John Backer
On Fri, 25 May 2007 08:08:09 -0
looks good mark real good
phill
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones"
To: "KRnet" ; "Corvair Net"
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: KR> Wheel Pants
> What a way to start a day
>
> This morning at daybreak I made my first flig
Does anyone know of some good websites on how to install wheel pants? I bought
a set of wheel pants from John Backer and the fairings from Dan Diehl and I am
not sure if there is any one good way to do this. A website with some pictures
would sure help me in the right direction. Any help would b
I'm also trying to come up with pant brackets. I have Matco disc brake set
up.
This seems a very difficult installation set up.
Looking for help???/
Phil Matheson
VH-PKR7
Australia
KR Web Page
phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
www.philskr2.50megs.com
http://www.vw-engines.com/
Does anyone know of some good websites on how to install wheel pants? I
bought a set of wheel pants from John Backer and the fairings from Dan
Diehl...
Steve Henderson
St. Louis, MO
KR-1
kr-avia...@sbcglobal.net
Here is how I am doing my wheel pants and Diehl fairings.
http://websites.ex
Steve Henderson wrote:
> Does anyone know of some good websites on how to install wheel pants? I
> bought a set of wheel pants from John Backer and the fairings from Dan
> Diehl...
Here's one, at my RV counterpart's website at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/fairings.htm . I like his piano
trying to fit
those fairings on all of that. Not looking forward to it.
From: sidney.w...@l-3com.com
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2007/03/12 Mon AM 07:53:24 CDT
To:
Subject: KR> Wheel Pants
Does anyone know of some good websites on how to install wheel pants? I
bought a set of wh
>I'm also trying to come up with pant brackets. I have Matco disc brake set
>up.
>This seems a very difficult installation set up.
>Phil Matheson
++
Phil,
Check out http://mysite.verizon.net/flesner/21.jpg
This might give you some id
this should get you started.
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web Site: www.flykr2s.com
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of sidney.w...@l-3com.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:53 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Whe
The wheel pants that I have provided to KR builders need a
lot of work to get them on the plane correctly. I have
found nearly all of the wheel pants you get from anyone
take time and ingenuity to get them installed correctly.
I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out an easy,
fool proo
i use the 500-5 after having smaller wheels and noticed it does run better
on grass
phil
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Wheel pants
> Phil Geoghegan wrote:
>
>> th
lay a big part too
just a few pounds can realy make it run
phil
- Original Message -
From: "phil brookman"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Wheel pants
>i use the 500-5 after having smaller wheels and noticed it does ru
>To: KRnet
>Subject: KR> KR Wheel pants
>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:37:26 -0500
>
>At 06:07 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
> >Same experience: very difficult to get the wheels spats off without
> >jacking up, although there are only a couple centimeters missing. I also
Don't know about the small ones on grass, but I had 500X5 on my first KR and
it was sweet. I have the small ones on this one and am concerned about
landing on grass with them.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for build
Phil Geoghegan wrote:
> they look good! I am trying to decide whether to use the lamb 10x400-5 or
> the normal 500-5 tires. Does anyone use the smaller ones on grass strips?
I land on grass all the time with 10x400-5's with no problem at all. But I
don't have wheel pants yet (not that it matter
Hi
I am using the diehl taildragger UC (Asuza 5" and lamb tire) with
great plains hydraulic brakes. I was wondering which wheel pants people are
using.
Phil
www.philgeoghegan.co.uk
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At 04:16 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote:
>Hi
> I am using the diehl taildragger UC (Asuza 5" and lamb tire) with
>great plains hydraulic brakes. I was wondering which wheel pants
>people are using.
>Phil
+++
Jeff Scott and I are using the RV
as
you will not be able to get a spanner in between the wheel and the spat to
hold it.
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From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Wheel pants
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I will vouch for that. I only have the nose wheel covered right now. I
have the John Backer pants and just the nose wheel gave me 8 mph. If I
ever get back in the air, I will get the main gears covered with pants
too.
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/
Mailto:flyk..
PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Wheel pants
> It's probably worth noting that Larry and I also use bigger tires
> (5:00x5) than the rest of the KR fleet, which is the reason for using
> the larger wheel pants. However, they do really help with the drag
> reduction.
>
> Jeff Scot
"Willie van der Walt"
Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
19/10/2006 16:48
Veuillez répondre à KRnet
Remis le : 19/10/2006 16:48
Pour : "KRnet"
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : Re: KR> KR Wheel pants
Whatever you use just make
At 06:07 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
>Same experience: very difficult to get the wheels spats off without
>jacking up, although there are only a couple centimeters missing. I also
>had to battle with the nuts, until I decided to glue Rivnuts to the spats.
>Serge Vidal
My wheel pants made next to no difference, makbe 2kts. And the grass runway
I use is so ruff in places that in 10 hours I had to repair both sides.
For me, wheel pants are to much effort for the return!
regardsBarry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr
Youm should have done the 0-360, I think it would have given you a few
more knots. good luck.
Jim
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:07:22 +1000 "Barry Kruyssen"
writes:
> My wheel pants made next to no difference, makbe 2kts. And the grass
> runway
> I use is so ruff in places that in 10 hours I had to re
There was an article in the EAA magazine several years ago about a Glasair
trike that gained 15 miles per hour speed from a special designed wheel pants.
I don't know which year/month it was but look it up Mark, it might be worth it
to you.
By the way--I hate these laptop keyboards myself. Fu
took mine off the other day and lost 10 mph
soon put them back on i tell yopu
phil
- Original Message -
From: "Larry H."
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: KR> WHEEL PANTS
> There was an article in the EAA magazine several years ago about a Glasa
At 07:10 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:
>Yeah, When I installed the pants, Richard S. talked me into installing
>them lower than normal so I only have about 1" - 1.5" of clearance.
>Steve
+++
Let's hope you never have a flat tire or you will most likely be
k Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants
> Yes, I think Bill's were made by John Backer. I have a set also, and they
> are gorgeous (but they'd look a lot better on my plane). Here's something
Hello KRNET,
Doesn anyone know where I can purchase some wheel pants for the Diehl gear
legs? I am looking for some like the ones on Bill Clapp's plane.
Steve Henderson
KR-1
St. Louis, MO
sp...@sbcglobal.net
Steve
You will need to contact Bill directly as the wheel pants are a modified set
Bill did himself. He has pretty much totally re-worked his set. email him at :
ifly...@aol.com
He explained this to me at Corvair College and at some point plans on offering
sets from molds he will pull from his f
I don't know about now,but the set he originally had was a set he got from
John Backer.Mark L might know how to get in touch with John.
Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com
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Bill told me he got his from John Backer, from the archives:
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Jan 8, 2005 5:58 AM
From: john backer
Subject: KR> Wheel Pants
I check my KRnet messages nearly everyday. I can be contacted at
jsbac...@yahoo.com or 641-816-5575.
My mailing address is
Yes, I think Bill's were made by John Backer. I have a set also, and they
are gorgeous (but they'd look a lot better on my plane). Here's something
John posted in January, from the archives at
http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp , searching on the word
"backer"...
"I check my KRnet mes
After I finish installing the Cleveland brakes on Tweety, I will need to rework
my Rand wheel pants. I need some suggestions on how to make the inner cover
and would like to see how others attached the pants to the gear legs. pictures
and links would be most appreciated.
Orma
Southfield, MI
N1
NetHeads,
You guys that have flown without and with wheel pants...was there any
noticeable difference in the trim required when wheel pants were installed?
The reason I ask is I've never been able to fly with trim in the neutral
position...it's always nose up, and with flaps I still don't have eno
I can see how adding
>wheel pants would streamline the wheels, causing less drag about the wheels,
>decreasing the tendency to fly nose down, but I guess I'm trying to get a
>feel for how pronounced the difference is.
>>Mark Langford
Mark,
I've flown with two different types of wheel pants as well as none at
all. Even flown with all the wheel pant fittings hanging out in the
wind. No differnce in the trim, although it was much draggier without
the pants.
Jeff Scott
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:56:23 -0500 "Mark Langford"
writes:
> Ne
Recently added pants to my tri-gear. No noticeable trim effect. I always
have to use nose up trim. Quite a bit when flying at 80 kts. or less.
Simultaneously adding the pants and wing gap covers (vertical blinds) added
about 12 knots (10%) to top speed.
Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
Shar
At 10:50 PM 7/17/05 -0400, you wrote:
>Did you get any climb rate increase that you could tell or just a speed
>increase?
>Brian Kraut
+++
In theory I've had to pick up a bit but whatever it was is not noticable
on a VSI that is bouncing around a
FINALLY, after a year and a half and 150 hours on the KR, it flew
for the first time with wheel pants. YEEE HA. !!
With the old 600X6's and even more recently with the 500:5's I was
seeing approx 155 indicated at full throttle level flight. It would pull
about 2600 rpm on the 0-200
Very good news Larry. I had no idea that it would make that much difference
Ours are waiting for the hours to be flown off so I don't have to take
time away ffrom the possibility of making the gathering with the WannaBee
that soon WillBee.
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
See N64KR
is le : 2005-07-06 02:00
Pour : KRnet
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : KR> wheel pants
FINALLY, after a year and a half and 150 hours on the KR, it flew
for the first time with wheel pants. YEEE HA. !!
With the old 600X6's and even
Brian
I check my KRnet messages nearly everyday. I can be contacted at
jsbac...@yahoo.com or 641-816-5575.
My mailing address is PO Box 575 Greene IA 50636-0575.
John Backer
My axles came already dirlled an tapped. There is no reason why you can not
do it. The end of the axle where it is drilled and tapped is not a stress
factor area.
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com
You don't actually NEED a hole anywhere on the axle, depending on what kind
of wheel pants you have. Many wheel pants are split either vertically or
horizontally, and fit together. If they're not split, you can split them
and add a joggle to reattach the halves. Then you sandwich a piece of .090
tp://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
do not archive
>From: "Mark Langford"
>Reply-To: KRnet
>To: "KRnet"
>Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:18:12 -0600
>
>You don't actually NEED a hole anywhere on the axle, depending on
I've completed the molds to make my wheel pants. As Mark has said, they will
look like dolphins under the wings. And I made them that way on porpoise.
Should a liner be placed inside around the wheel to keep the pants from filling
with debris or water? Is 1/2 inch clearance on the tire suffic
>Should a liner be placed inside around the wheel to keep the pants from
filling with debris or water?
>Jim Vance
+
I'd say no. The tighter the space around the wheel the easier it will
be for it to pack with mud, snow, etc. Water? How
The baffles, front and back, do keep mud, snow, stones, dirt, etc. from
accumulating in the front and back of the wheel pant. Another important
function is to limit circulation of air around the wheel for better streamline
air flow at the opening. You can get so carried away with the tight fit
Has anyone ever heard from the person at last year's gathering who brought
wheel pants that he was making and said that he would make the mold
available or make pants for sale?
"There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
building has long since expired."
See N64KR at ht
Dan
Check Mark Langford's photos from the Gathering. I think there was a
photo of him there with his name.
Joe
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:57:33 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath"
writes:
> Has anyone ever heard from the person at last year's gathering who
> brought
> wheel pants that he was ma
That would be Sid Wood. You can email at the link below.
smw...@titan.com
Bud Midkiff
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Heath"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Wheel Pants
> Has anyone ever heard from the person at last year's gatherin
The tires for my KR are Lamb 4.00 X 5 - 8 Ply. I am going to be flipping the
plane over to build up stub wings and fairings. There was a man at the
Gathering that had a mold and wheel pants. Does anybody know if they will be
available and if they fit my tire? Or are there other pants out t
: KR>wheel pants and CG
The tires for my KR are Lamb 4.00 X 5 - 8 Ply. I am going to be
flipping the plane over to build up stub wings and fairings. There was a man
at the Gathering that had a mold and wheel pants. Does anybody know if they
will be available and if they fit my t
John Backer made the pants according to the gathering photos. If he is on the
list or anyone has contact info I may interrested in buying a set also.
-Original Message-
From: William Clapp
Sent: Oct 12, 2003 11:32 PM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: KR>wheel pants and CG
The ti
John Backer's e-mail address is jsbac...@yahoo.com
Ed Janssen
mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Kraut"
To: "KR builders and pilots"
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: KR>wheel pants and CG
> John Backer
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