KR>Weight and balance and inspections.

2022-02-15 Thread colin hales
Just for clarification and this is just in the UK, but I expect it is the same in Europe, we can only build the original KR2 to the original design. MAUW of 900 and a max empty weight of 580lb. Any heavier and it becomes a single-seat aircraft only. That is the law. I'm not actually that sure of

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2020-09-23 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 9/23/2020 7:58 AM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: Do you want the CG to fall at the rear limit with a 200 pound pilot, 200 pound passenger, and full fuel or some other combination. +++ As KR's have the

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2020-09-23 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 9/22/2020 5:32 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: When doing a conventional gear aircraft and ,using the firewall for the datum, all scales are in the same direction and no "negative" numbers are involved. ++ I shoul

Re: KR> weight and balance on a longeze

2020-08-08 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 8/8/2020 1:18 PM, Robert Dunleavy via KRnet wrote: I have some old paperwork from a friends longeze with an 0-320. If I can help let me know and I'll find it...Robert. + Thanks,

Re: KR> weight and balance on a longeze

2020-08-08 Thread Robert Dunleavy via KRnet
I have some old paperwork from a friends longeze with an 0-320. If I can help let me know and I'll find it...Robert. On Friday, August 7, 2020, 08:17:29 PM CDT, Flesner via KRnet wrote: I helped a friend do the weight and balance on his Longeze this afternoon.  What a goat rodeo. The

Re: KR> weight and balance on a longeze

2020-08-07 Thread Luis Claudio via KRnet
We have a few Longeze here in our airfield but one, in particular, that is just now finishing up their 40hrs. It has a Lyc 320 on it. If this matches somewhat what you have I will get their weight and balance and copy it.  Luis R Claudio, KHQZ KR2S N8981S Dallas, Texas On Friday, August 7, 2

KR> weight and balance on a longeze

2020-08-07 Thread Flesner via KRnet
I helped a friend do the weight and balance on his Longeze this afternoon.  What a goat rodeo. The nose won't stay down in level attitude without a gallon jug of water on the nose.  They don't give you a datum other than to check that the instrument panel is 110 inches forward of the main gea

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2016-04-05 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Jon wrote- > It's quoted as 15 to 35 percent of the mac...which I believe is 41 inches > for the stock kr2...less for the kr2s. (Insert the sound of me slapping my hand to my forehead here)- why wasn't I paying attention? The KR2 wing is *not* constant chord for most of its span, so the MAC i

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2016-04-04 Thread Lee Parker
My KR was out of the CG range until I sat in the seat which brought it to within the CG. range. ?I always kelp a little weight to throw in the back to help with CG. From: Mark Langford via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: ml at n56ml.com Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:43 PM Subject: Re: KR

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2016-04-04 Thread jon kimmel
It's quoted as 15 to 35 percent of the mac...which I believe is 41 inches for the stock kr2...less for the kr2s. The point I make is that the location of the mac is very easy to change in relation to the stub wing...the as5048 has spar locations that move the mac...and cg range forward about a hal

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2016-04-04 Thread Chris Prata
mark if 35% aft from leading edge (at mean average chord point?) is too far aft, what is the commonly accepted safe limit and where in your experience does she fly best? > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 19:28:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance >

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2016-04-04 Thread ml at n56ml.com
Chris Prata wrote: >If 35% aft from the leading edge (at mean average chord point) is too far aft, >what is the commonly accepted safe limit and where in your experience does she >fly best? There's some ambiguity there, as the plans call for 8"-16" from the leading edge of the stub wing, and th

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2016-04-03 Thread Mark Langford
Gary wrote: > From my plans, the CG is 15% to 40% of the wing chord. That was the old > wing. Is it the same with to AS5048 wing? I don't ever remember seeing that number before. Is that for a KR1, or just an early set of plans? My plans also say 15%-35%, and that's the range that extends to

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2016-04-02 Thread Pete Klapp
Gary My plans manual, ss# 1216, list 15% to 35% MAC for RAF 48 airfoil. I used Diehl skins on my project. Pete To: krnet at list.krnet.org List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:59:48 -0500 Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance From: krnet at list.krnet.org CC: gary769rv

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2016-04-02 Thread Pete Klapp
016 12:42:15 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> weight and balance > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: flesner at frontier.com > > > > > > Here is everything you need to know about w

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2016-04-02 Thread Gary
>From my plans, the CG is 15% to 40% of the wing chord. That was the old wing. Is it the same with to AS5048 wing? Gary -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image[3].png Type: image/png Size: 41954 bytes Desc: not available URL:

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2016-04-02 Thread Larry Flesner
At 12:18 PM 4/2/2016, you wrote: >What's a weight and balance? >Mike Stirewalt > Here is everything you need to know about weight and balance: https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/media/FAA-H-8083-1A.pdf

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2015-12-03 Thread n357cj
" Cc: "GaryH" Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:35:14 PM Subject: KR> weight Hello KR netters... Does anyone have an idea how much an outboard 5048 wing might weigh? (Primed, not painted, with or no wing tanks.) Gary Soli Deo Gloria __

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2015-12-03 Thread Dan Prichard
Gary, in using the 5048 with wing tanks. Wing weighs 64 lbs each. I suspect the tanks are about 7 lbs which puts it near the upper edge of Mark's educated guess. Dan Prichard Portland Oregon Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:35 AM, GaryH via KRnet wrote: > > > Hello KR netters

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2015-12-03 Thread GaryH
Hello KR netters... Does anyone have an idea how much an outboard 5048 wing might weigh? (Primed, not painted, with or no wing tanks.) Gary Soli Deo Gloria

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2015-12-03 Thread Parley T Byington
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Dec.3,2015 Subject: Outboard wing panel weight Gary; I have the original, built to plans wing, RAF 48, they weigh 45 lbs each. Mine have two layers of fiberglass cloth on them and this weight includes the primer and enamel paint as well as the aileron cou

KR> weight engine fairings

2015-09-28 Thread Sid Wood
The combined top and bottom home-built fiber glass fairing for my 2180 VW engine weighs 10.6 pounds including paint. The fiber glass cooling ducts for the engine weigh 1.6 pounds total. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA

KR> weight engine fairings

2015-09-28 Thread stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl
KR friends, I am bussy to calculate the weight of the engine before I can design the engine mount. What is the everage weight of the hood or the fairings or covers around the engine. I did a small calculation and think it should be around 6 lb. What do you all think or what is the weight of yours

KR> weight engine fairings

2015-09-28 Thread ml at n56ml.com
t; N56ML.com www.N56ML.com Original Message Subject: KR> weight engine fairings From: stefkr2--- via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Mon, September 28, 2015 3:12 am To: Kr net Kr net Cc: "stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl" KR friends, I am bussy to calculate the we

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2015-08-20 Thread John Martindale
n Behalf Of Sid Wood via KRnet Sent: Wednesday, 19 August 2015 5:54 AM To: krnet at list.krnet.org Cc: Sid Wood Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance The KR-2 Plans have a serious error regarding Weight & Balance. The designer, Stu Robinson, chose the RAF48 Center of Lift 2 inches to far forw

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2015-08-20 Thread stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl
: krnet at list.krnet.org >Datum : 20/08/2015 01:27 >Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org >Cc : john_martindale at bigpond.com >Onderwerp : Re: KR> weight and balance > >Hi Sid > >It is not that the centre of lift for the RAF48 wing has been inaccurately >mapped. That would have been w

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2015-08-18 Thread Sid Wood
The KR-2 Plans have a serious error regarding Weight & Balance. The designer, Stu Robinson, chose the RAF48 Center of Lift 2 inches to far forward. The KR-2S supplement does correct this error. Here is an excerpt from the archives: http://www.krnet.org/as504x/ -- There a

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-17 Thread Chris Prata
The plans call for using 8 inches - 16 inches of the wing cord. So forward point would be 8 inches aft of the wings front edge. Aft would be 16 inches. This is for the RAF 48 airfoil. I wonder if the new airfoil would be different

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-17 Thread jon kimmel
Most aircraft use 15% to 35% mac. The forward limit is influenced by the distance to the horizontal and size. The aft limit is not. I think most go wrong in the mac. The mac for a kr2s is slightly smaller than for a KR2 and the plans are for a kr2. The governing factors are taper and sweep. Y

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-15 Thread Dan Heath
Maybe some of this will be helpful to you. http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR. September 3 - 6 -- See U There. Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gat

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2015-08-15 Thread stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl
Hi guys, Monday we will do a weight and balance check to calculate the engine position. We did build a KR-2 but did extend the tail like an kr2-s, have the old kr2 wings but with the extension like the kr2-s. Fire wall is reinforced for the more powerful engine but have no two inch extension to

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-15 Thread Rob Schmitt
The plans call for using 8 inches - 16 inches of the wing cord. So forward point would be 8 inches aft of the wings front edge. Aft would be 16 inches. This is for the RAF 48 airfoil. Rob Schmitt N1852Z > On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:11 AM, Flesner via KRnet > wrote: > > >> . Can you guys give me

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2015-08-15 Thread Dan Heath
, August 15, 2015 6:47 AM To: Kr net Kr net Cc: stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl Subject: KR> weight and balance Hi guys, Monday we will do a weight and balance check to calculate the engine position. We did build a KR-2 but did extend the tail like an kr2-s, have the old kr2 wings but with the extension l

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-15 Thread Flesner
>. Can you guys give me the advice what you should use for the fwd >and aft gravity point? I think I can use the drawing dimensions. >Result will be more space after the engine. >Stef

KR> weight and balance

2015-08-15 Thread jon kimmel
15% to 35% Mac is a good estimate. You should recalculate hour Mac as it sounds like this is a unique configuration. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale

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2015-05-21 Thread Jeff Scott
I realize the KR series aircraft are small and resemble RC aircraft, but come on guys. Performing a proper W&B just isn't that difficult. We will be conducting a W&B seminar at the KR Gathering in September. Initially, I thought that would be a waste of time. However, after reading the discu

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2015-05-21 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood
Yes- I recall Dan Dhiel (sorry for spelling Dan) back in the '80's talking about doing just that...he physically balanced his KR on a roller mounted on trestles in order to verify the c of g location. Mac Wood On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:06 PM, dfeiger via KRnet wrote: > Question: has anyone

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2015-05-21 Thread CraigW
Jeff You must have read something I did not. I don't think anyone was advocating the balance test as the only W&B check. I am going to do it for my own "warm fuzzy" that all is well before I fly the plane. Craig > On May 21, 2015 at 5:29 PM Jeff Scott via KRnet > wrote: > > > I realize the

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2015-05-21 Thread dfeiger
Question: has anyone tried balancing a KR to see if it is correct? Before my first flight of my mostly stock KR2 on September 28, 1984. I built a small wood cradle that supported the fuselage at the outer fuselage edges, tied it for and aft so it could not slip, and placed a large dowel cross w

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2015-05-20 Thread Flesner
At 07:26 PM 5/20/2015, you wrote: >Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift >up on it with the wings +++ If you accurately weigh and measure the airplane you can "lift the airplane" with pencil and paper. Larry

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2015-05-20 Thread CraigW
Yes I do the same thing with my RC planes. I have every intention of doing it before I fly my plane. Because after all I am human... Craig www.kr2seafury.com Frankenstein Lycoming powered > On May 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM dean choitz via KRnet > wrote: > > > Has anyone ever tried to support the

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2015-05-20 Thread Dave Acklam
You will punch through and a block will crush foam... Iirc w&b is best done with 3 scales, one under each wheel... You can then calculate cg from the weight diff On May 20, 2015 5:27 PM, "dean choitz via KRnet" wrote: > Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift >

KR> Weight and balance

2015-05-20 Thread dean choitz
Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the

KR> Weight And ballance

2015-01-21 Thread Dan Heath
There are several W&B spread sheets located here: http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR. September 3 - 6 -- See U There. Peoples Choice at 2013 -

KR> Weight And ballance

2015-01-20 Thread stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl
Kr friends, I have maybey a stupid question. We are almost at the point that we will start with the engine mount. So I have heard that there is a possability to calculate the distance. So this I will all understand. I want to do 1 weight And ballance sesion (2 pax, 1 pax, full fuel, low fuel). I

KR> Weight And ballance

2015-01-20 Thread tommy waymack
Weight and balance CG,center of gravity, is a sum of the moments[arm x weight]of each piece divided by the sum of the weight of each piece measured from a common datum point.The arm being measured from a common datum point.This is how I computed radio changes in aircraft.Measure the component dista

KR> Weight And ballance

2015-01-20 Thread jon kimmel
Weight and balance is simply a summation of weights and moments. If you know the weight and centroid of the wings then you can certainly do a good calculation without them. On the e-3 they often do the final weighing without seats, paint, and other things. Those are added back later. https://si

KR> Weight and Balance

2014-08-29 Thread Sid Wood
Did the first flight on my KR-2 this morning after moving the engine 2-inches forward from the plans call-out. (This was the fourth flight on this aircraft.) Weight and balance measurements showed my take-off cg with me onboard and half fuel to be 12.6 inches from the stub wing datum. Plans

KR> Weight and Balance

2014-08-29 Thread Lawrence Bell
Glad you made it OK, Sid. Hope you can relocate your wheels without too much expense and find your pitch up problem. Larry Bell On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote: > Did the first flight on my KR-2 this morning after moving the engine > 2-inches forward from the plans ca

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-13 Thread Phillip Matheson
Please do not use the situation that your Kr2 sits on its tail and back up as OK My Kr2 has HEAVY nose weight which I did on purpose. My Kr2 needs a minimum of a 70 kg (154 lb) pilot to move the CofG back to fly it. The figures and measurements must be correct, you do not want to fly a KR wi

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-13 Thread peter
I'm trying to remember, but I think the typical flight-induced stress failures almost always occur in the tail attach area, not the wings. It is difficult to stress the wings to yield without stalling them. Therefore, the stronger wings would demand stronger empennage and engine mount too. regar

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2014-06-13 Thread Teate, Stephen
"unless of course you're Mark Langford" Since it is Friday I have to add my shot to this. When I was doing my preliminary weight and balance I went searching for information. As usual I ended up on Mark's project where he has a very nice table that lists his weights and moments. I didn't look

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-13 Thread jon kimmel
You wrote Unless I'm mistaken, the "new wings" are only a new airfoil design optimized for the KR's performance envelope. Nothing was done to change the wing spars, which are the structural part that transfer the loads. That is true for the as5046. The as5048 is inherently stronger since the spa

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-13 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Paul wrote- > I wish we could come up with a new max weight with the new wings. Unless I'm mistaken, the "new wings" are only a new airfoil design optimized for the KR's performance envelope. Nothing was done to change the wing spars, which are the structural part that transfer the loads. In

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-12 Thread Flesner
At 09:31 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: >Gross weight per the FAA guidelines is 1146 pounds. + Gross weight for YOUR KR is anything you want it to be and is set by the builder. I certified my KR at 1300 or 1350, I don't recall. The 170 pound passenger weig

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2014-06-12 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I wish we could come up with a new max weight with the new wings. Then locate the engine off the fire wall based on best CG location at max weight. Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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2014-06-12 Thread danrh at windstream.net
ist-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Thu, Jun 12, 2014 10:31 am Subject: KR> Weight & Balance To: Did weight and balance on 6/11/14 assisted by Bernie Wunder and my wife Shirley. Empty weight is 758 pounds and CG is 8.41 inches. With me on board and full fuel, weight is 1066 pounds and

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2014-06-12 Thread Sid Wood
Max Gross Weight & CG, Minimum Fuel, Standard Pilot & Passenger: Start with Empty Weight, add standard pilot & passenger (170 pounds each) plus minimum fuel. Minimum fuel weight is calculated using the formula: ((Max. continuous hp)/12)X6. For my 2180 VW rated at 76 hp, that would be 38 pound

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2014-06-12 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
u, Jun 12, 2014 10:31 am Subject: KR> Weight & Balance To: Did weight and balance on 6/11/14 assisted by Bernie Wunder and my wife Shirley. Empty weight is 758 pounds and CG is 8.41 inches. With me on board and full fuel, weight is 1066 pounds and CG is 13.41 inches; at that loading, we

KR> Weight & Balance

2014-06-12 Thread Sid Wood
Did weight and balance on 6/11/14 assisted by Bernie Wunder and my wife Shirley. Empty weight is 758 pounds and CG is 8.41 inches. With me on board and full fuel, weight is 1066 pounds and CG is 13.41 inches; at that loading, weight on the nose wheel is 90.6 pounds. Comparing that to the 63

KR> Weight of lancair Evolution

2013-11-11 Thread Phillip Matheson
Lancair Legacy. I do not know the difference between the Evolution and Legacy, but I just posted these for you interest. We all need to take great when flying. Phil Matheson -Original Message- From: Lee Van Dyke Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:09 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Weight

KR> Weight of lancair Evolution

2013-11-09 Thread Lee Van Dyke
The weight of our new Lancair Evolution was 887 lbs. fuse and wings with flight controls. Out of the molds. The last finished one was 2560 lbs as I recall. We will put 1673 lbs in the plane in the next 6 months. Way. Way. Way fun Lee Van Dyke

KR> weight and balance article

2013-10-18 Thread Tom
- Original Message - From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 5:19:09 PM Subject: KR> weight and balance article At 04:44 PM 10/18/2013, you wrote: >Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they wo

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2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 04:44 PM 10/18/2013, you wrote: >Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they would use them as an >example for cg. ++ Maybe they referenced them because they were the FIRST to have a CG problem with an airplane. :-) Larry Flesner

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2013-10-18 Thread jon kimmel
Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they would use them as an example for cg. I ran across one article that said if the flyer had been stable the control surfaces were insufficient to actually control the plane...they actually used the instability to their advantage...of course nobody

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2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 08:23 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote: >Google wright flyer unstable and you'll find it. They did it on purpose. >When asked their coined response was something like the pilot should fly >the airplane. ++ My only real point was that whatever the

KR> weight and balance article link enclosed

2013-10-18 Thread jon kimmel
Google wright flyer unstable and you'll find it. They did it on purpose. When asked their coined response was something like the pilot should fly the airplane. My gut feel is they knew they simply didn't have the power to spare. They were brilliant. There are some of their later planes at the a

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2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 05:33 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote: >The article lost some credibility when it referred to the wright >brotherssince they intentionally made the wright flyer unstable. ++ Where did you learn the Wright's made their Flyer unstable? It wasn't

KR> weight & balance

2013-08-31 Thread Dan Heath
I will check on the scales today. However, I will have to ship them both ways and only want to do that if we are "for sure" going to have the forum. I will also volunteer to be the pig, but I am sure there will be many who want to volunteer for this. So, Larry, let me know "FOR SURE" if this will

KR> weight & balance

2013-08-31 Thread Mark Langford
And I should clarify the "900 pounds empty" comment. You really need your scales to go all the way to GROSS weight, in order to get exact locations for pilot, fuel, baggage, etc. If it's a tri-gear, the weight is distributed more equally between the three, and then we'd need three scales, rat

KR> weight & balance

2013-08-31 Thread Rob Schmitt
I would not mind being the guinea pig, love get an updated weight. Rob Schmitt N1852Z On Aug 30, 2013, at 7:38 PM, "Mark Langford" wrote: > Dennis Dyer wrote: > >> is the weight and balance demonstration still in the plans for the >> Gathering? > > I will bring a 400 and a 500 pound sca

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2013-08-30 Thread Mark Langford
Dennis Dyer wrote: >is the weight and balance demonstration still in the plans for the >Gathering? I will bring a 400 and a 500 pound scale with me to the Gathering, and we'll do a demo at whatever point Larry can squeeze in. We'll need a volunteer KR guinea pig for the demo. If the plan

KR> weight & balance

2013-08-30 Thread John
Dennis Dyer What I meant to ask is the weight and balance demonstration still in the plans for the Gathering?

KR> Weight.

2013-05-23 Thread Wayne Tokarz
t.org] On Behalf Of Robert7721 Sent: May-22-13 8:42 PM To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: Re: KR> Weight. My original KR2S weight was 600 pounds at inspection in 2006. I was pretty happy with that. Probably up to about 625 pounds by now. Max weight is 1100 pounds - that was calculated to keep

KR> Weight.

2013-05-22 Thread Robert7721
My original KR2S weight was 600 pounds at inspection in 2006. I was pretty happy with that. Probably up to about 625 pounds by now. Max weight is 1100 pounds - that was calculated to keep the C.G. from going aft of the limit - no other reason. VW Revmaster 2100 engine, just a header tank, no fla

KR> Weight.

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Jones
N886MJ Final Empty Weight on 3-13-2005. Left Main Gear 284 lbs. Nose Gear 214 lbs. Right Main Gear 273 lbs. Total empty weight 771 lbs Gross weight was set at 1350. Max flown weight 1231 LBS (400 lbs pilot and passenger, 10 gallons fuel) give or take a pound or two. The plane flew like a charm w

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2013-05-22 Thread Dan Heath
750 with wing tanks, auto pilot, heavy canopy, lots of stuff and a Corvair engine. Heavy and quite stable. A nice airplane to fly cross country. W&B given that 4 is center, 0 is 4" forward, and 6 is 2" aft (most allowed) 188 pilot, 172.2 fuel = 1065 EW and 3.876 CG Add 135 passenger = 1200.2 EW

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread smwood
781 pounds does exceed my self-assigned goal of 650 set many years ago. However, adding a 2180 VW, Diehl adapter and electric, mechanical fuel pump, oil filter, carb heat, cabin heat, Diehl skins, bigger spar, three batteries (main and two backups), extra airspeed and wet compass, ELT, panel mou

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2013-05-22 Thread Jeff Scott
roper W&B calculation for it. ?The actual gross weight can be determined later during flight testing. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM > - Original Message - > From: Larry&Sallie Flesner > Sent: 05/22/13 07:25 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Weight & Balance >

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread Wayne Tokarz
f Sid Wood Sent: May-21-13 8:33 PM To: krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: KR> Weight & Balance Empty weight is 781 pounds; FAA calculated gross is 1178 pounds for a useful load of 397 pounds. With my tender body onboard the CG ranges from 12.4" full fuel to 11.2" Empty. S

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2013-05-22 Thread smwood
The FAA has a procedure where you put in "standard" pilot and passenger weights (170 pounds each), full fuel and max baggage on the weight and balance work sheet. The total weight is then your max gross weight. It is a calculated number. You also have to show that the CG is in the allowable

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 07:58 AM 5/22/2013, you wrote: >The FAA has a procedure where you put in "standard" pilot and >passenger weights (170 pounds each), > full fuel and max baggage on the weight and balance work > sheet. The total weight is then your max gross weight.

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread Matt Elder
Well since you had the FAA do your inspection it doesn't do much good to argue, but that's not right. That's a minimum suggested way to do w&b, but the manufacturer (you) sets the "design" gross weight limits. Using the logic of you local FSDO I technically wouldn't be able to fly my single pl

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 07:58 AM 5/22/2013, you wrote: >You also have to show that the CG is in the allowable design range >at that weight. + I'll buy showing different loadings remain in the CG range. I seem to recall that being the second "off the wa

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-22 Thread Craig Williams
I wish they would update their standards.? The only 170 lb pilots are in Ethiopia.? I'm gonna fly over gross every time if they apply that to me. CW From: smwood To: krnet at list.krnet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:58 AM Subject: Re: KR>

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2013-05-21 Thread Sid Wood
Completed a weight & balance on my tri-gear KR-2 today. Started from scratch and re-measured the wheel locations. The main wheels were 0.25 inch further forward and the nose was 0.5 inch further forward than from the numbers previously used. One explanation would be a new nose wheel strut. F

KR> Weight & Balance

2013-05-21 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 09:32 PM 5/21/2013, you wrote: >FAA calculated gross is 1178 pounds for a useful load of 397 pounds. +++ Sid, Glad to hear you're making progress toward the next flight. Please explain "FAA calculated gross". I set the gross on my KR and I

KR> Weight canopy

2012-06-07 Thread stef...@kpnmail.nl
KR-friends, We have finished the canopy.We are happy but I am a bit worry about the weight. We come with the locking mechanism, without paint at the outside . At a total weight 14+ pound. I think it is to much. Wath do you think. Stef Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see ht

KR> weight question...

2012-03-21 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 04:02 PM 3/20/2012, you wrote: >if the KR is approaching 150-200 mph, and if >control surfaces are not balanced, can't this develop flutter problems? >Gary Speed alone is not the only contributing factor to flutter. Many fast KR's do no

KR> weight question...

2012-03-20 Thread Dan Heath
Absolutely. Ailerons must be balanced and if you have a very fast KR, so should the other control surfaces. In any case, it never hurts to balance them all. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics  See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il – MVN – 40th Anniversary T

KR> weight question...

2012-03-20 Thread GaryH
t: Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:43 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> weight question... At 08:59 AM 3/17/2012, you wrote: >Does anyone know how much a finished rudder weighs? >Gary ++ Not much. A couple of pounds at most unless it is counter-bal

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2012-03-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 08:59 AM 3/17/2012, you wrote: >Does anyone know how much a finished rudder weighs? >Gary ++ Not much. A couple of pounds at most unless it is counter-balanced but few are. Why do you ask? Larry Flesner

KR> weight question...

2012-03-17 Thread GaryH
Does anyone know how much a finished rudder weighs? Gary

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-13 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 05:25 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote: >The other adjantage of using a concentrated weight you can move is >determining the aft most controllable CG. There was a great set of >articles in KIT PLANES by Barnaby Wainfan on how to use stick force >per g and graph out and extrapolate the point of zero st

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-13 Thread gene timpson
have and I'm sure Mark Langford would tell you that you don't want to be on the wrong side of that curve. From: Dan Heath To: 'KRnet' Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing Thank you.  We have a lar

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2012-02-12 Thread Ronald Wright
From: Dan Heath To: 'KRnet' Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:06 PM Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly.  I would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the plane would operate proper

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-12 Thread Dan Heath
Thank you. We have a large lake here where they practice diving. They may even have something they could rent to me. That may be what I am looking for. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th Anniversary Ther

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-12 Thread Dan Heath
Yes, that is why I am so concerned about it. However, the way mine is set up, it cannot get behind the seat. That does not mean that other bad things could not happen unless it is secured at least as good as a passenger would be. I think it is a scary and dangerous situation. See N64KR at http:

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-12 Thread Dan Heath
That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly. I would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the plane would operate properly with their weight in that seat. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics  See you at the 2012 - KR G

KR> Weight Testing

2012-02-12 Thread Ronald Wright
..  Simple and easy to do..   Ron From: Peter Diffey To: gene timpson ; KRnet Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:36 PM Subject: Re: KR> Weight Testing A word of caution, I recall a few years ago a kr pilot was killed doing a test with ballast. I don't remember his name, but the presumed cau

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