Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Chad Robertson via KRnet
OK thank you for the information and I agree trim tabs are pretty handy I learned that flying a Cessna 182 I just wasn’t sure on the KR 2 this is going to be a new learning adventure for me so I may have lots of questions thank you aging Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Mark

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
I left out the main problem with flying without a trim tabit's downright dangerous. Let go of the stick and the plane may climb or dive (think stall or head to the ground) under extreme conditions. You have to fly the plane the whole time. It's very tiring, and not something you'll want

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
Chad Robertson wrote: >> I have a question about the elevator trim I am purchasing one that does not have any trim on it and I hear everybody talking about how pitch sensitive they are is adding a trim tab something I should really consider doing and how difficult is it going to be if I add th

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Chad Robertson via KRnet
I have a question about the elevator trim I am purchasing one that does not have any trim on it and I hear everybody talking about how pitch sensitive they are is adding a trim tab something I should really consider doing and how difficult is it going to be if I add the trim tab thank you in adv

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 11/18/2020 2:19 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote: My reasoning follows: The slower you go, the less effective your trim becomes. So, for your trim to be effective enough to have a shot at landing the plane with trim only (A requirement I set for mine), you need to have a longer throw to get

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
quot;Samuel Spanovich" > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment > > Wow, thank you very much for the quick replies; > > While I have not looked at the problem or system in detail (will get to it > Friday or Saturday work permitting), I can say from the few times I have

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
Sam, I might as well send my link, for the "excruciating detail" version of the MAC (Ray Allen) trim setup also. See http://www.n56ml.com/trimtab/index.html One thing to be careful of is don't run your indicator wiring anywhere near an antenna cable or the radio itself, if possible, as the t

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Samuel Spanovich via KRnet
Wow, thank you very much for the quick replies; While I have not looked at the problem or system in detail (will get to it Friday or Saturday work permitting), I can say from the few times I have looked at it, the trim tab is connected to a cable (nothing special, just a normal every day cable

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-18 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
I used the Nyrod system from cockpit to the elevator trim tab on my KR-2. This system is a type of plastic Bowden cable. Both ends of the sheath must be firmly anchored to the fixed structure of the aircraft or the trim tab will not function properly. The anchor point on the sheath at the hor

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-17 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
an end to your trim woes. Retrofitting the Ray Allen trim into a KR elevator is shown in reasonable detail on my web site at <http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/2013_Trim.html>. I had the elevator off to do the retrofit, but that was just a convenience since mine was removable. But it could

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-17 Thread Flesner via KRnet
 I can basically move the trim tab full deflection up and down at all times, even with full up trim. +++ Also, many builders / pilots misunderstand the functio

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-17 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 11/17/2020 2:59 PM, Samuel Spanovich via KRnet wrote: I took a look at my trim last time I was up at the hangar, and even with full up trim, the trim tab moves a lot. I understand it is supposed to move slightly as the elevator travels down and up, but this feels way more “loose” than anyt

Re: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-17 Thread shafferj455js--- via KRnet
Are you using the model airplane NYROD ? -From: "Samuel Spanovich via KRnet" To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: "Samuel Spanovich" Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 4:00:00PM Subject: KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment Sam Spanovich N6

KR> Elevator Trim Adjustment

2020-11-17 Thread Samuel Spanovich via KRnet
Hey guys; this weekend if the weather cooperates I am going to try to correct an issue that I’ve had for quite some time now. It seems that my elevator trim is not doing its job properly. Whenever I am flying by myself, the plane will nose over slightly when I release the stick, even with full

Re: KR> Elevator and rudder cable tension

2019-02-24 Thread n357cj via KRnet
Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:44:39 PM Subject: KR> Elevator and rudder cable tension Netters Any thoughts on cable tension? All cables both elevator and rudder are straight pulls, no pulleys in the systems. Any information gladly appreciated, than

KR> Elevator and rudder cable tension

2019-02-24 Thread Pete Klapp via KRnet
Netters Any thoughts on cable tension? All cables both elevator and rudder are straight pulls, no pulleys in the systems. Any information gladly appreciated, thanks in advance. Pete Klapp, N729PK ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.

Re: KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread bruis--- via KRnet
OK Thanks. From: Ken Hurley via KRnet Sent: Monday, 15 May 2017 9:50 a.m. To: KRnet Cc: Ken Hurley Subject: Re: KR> elevator size... Vinyl tape, a thin piece of metal screwed for attachment. Needs to be removable for inspections. On May 14, 2017 3:03 PM, "bruis via KRnet"

Re: KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread Ken Hurley via KRnet
eft to get at bolts to remove wings? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Gary via KRnet Date: 15/05/2017 7:50 am (GMT+12:00) To: KRnet Cc: Gary < gary76...@verizon.net> Subject: KR> elevator size... Confession timeI probably built m

Re: KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread Gary via KRnet
From: Gary via KRnet Date: 15/05/2017 7:50 am (GMT+12:00) To: KRnet Cc: Gary Subject: KR> elevator size... Confession timeI probably built my elevator a little larger than need to be. It seems to be very sensitive in pitch to stick movement and of course it gets worse the faster you

Re: KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread Ken Hurley via KRnet
So size does matter? 😁 On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Gary via KRnet" wrote: > Confession timeI probably built my elevator a little larger than need > to be. It seems to be very sensitive in pitch to stick movement and of > course it gets worse the faster you go. I have already taken some o

Re: KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread bruis via KRnet
am (GMT+12:00) To: KRnet Cc: Gary Subject: KR> elevator size... Confession timeI probably built my elevator a little larger than need to be.  It seems to be very sensitive in pitch to stick movement and of course it gets worse the faster you go.  I have already taken some of the tra

KR> elevator size...

2017-05-14 Thread Gary via KRnet
Confession timeI probably built my elevator a little larger than need to be. It seems to be very sensitive in pitch to stick movement and of course it gets worse the faster you go. I have already taken some of the travel/leverage out. From the standard KR2 (stretched fuselage 14 inches)

Re: KR> Elevator travel

2017-01-03 Thread Pete Klapp via KRnet
:52 AM To: KRnet Cc: Paul Visk Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel I not totally sure. I think it's 20 up and 10 down. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.k

KR> Elevator trim fixed

2017-01-03 Thread codylee.cramer via KRnet
I have the manual I just didn't have it with me when I asked the question. I have the manual back in my possesion now so thank you all for the responses. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv

Re: KR> Elevator travel

2017-01-03 Thread Chris Gardiner via KRnet
uld look it up on > the drawings. > > Paul Visk Belleville Il. > 618-406-4705 > Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet > Date: 1/3/17 7:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet > Cc: Larry Flesner Subject: Re: > KR> Elevator travel > > >>

Re: KR> Elevator travel

2017-01-03 Thread Paul Visk via KRnet
I not totally sure. I think it's 20 up and 10 down.  I would look it up on the drawings. Paul Visk Belleville Il. 618-406-4705 Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet Date: 1/3/17 7:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: Larry Flesner Subject: Re: KR> Elevato

Re: KR> Elevator travel

2017-01-03 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
I am trying to get my elevator angles set what is a good degree of travel up and down. +++ The angles for all the control surfaces are in the manual. If you don't have a copy you should. If not, I'm sure someone will post them

KR> Elevator travel

2017-01-02 Thread codylee.cramer via KRnet
Im seeing the archives are still down so maybe you guys can help me. I am trying to get my elevator angles set what is a good degree of travel up and down I'm fighting my creation at the moment I think it has to many adjustment points so my next step is to zero one and try setting angles with th

KR> Elevator control cables.

2016-06-23 Thread Daniel Heath
You are making a parallelogram. Therefore the opposing sides must be of equal length. Also the pivot point must be in the center of the fore and aft sides. In my plans, the stick end was not the same length as the end at the elevator. Be sure this is not the case with yours and if it is, adjust

KR> Elevator control cables.

2016-06-23 Thread ml at n56ml.com
And keep in mind that there should be an adjustable turnbuckle in each of those two cables, set to a neutral position, for adjustment in stick location and to get the cable tension right. Mark Langford, Harvest, AL ML "at" N56ML.com www.N56ML.com

KR> Elevator control cables.

2016-06-22 Thread Larry Flesner
At 08:53 AM 6/22/2016, you wrote: >Hi: I need some help on how to install the elevator control cables. I am >building a stock KR2, using cables for the elevator just like the plans. >I like to know if the two cables need to be the same lengths? >Should the elevator be in the down position or up pos

KR> Elevator control cables.

2016-06-22 Thread Elrod, Larry Ann Arbor
Hi: I need some help on how to install the elevator control cables. I am building a stock KR2, using cables for the elevator just like the plans. I like to know if the two cables need to be the same lengths? Should the elevator be in the down position or up position to install the cables? Everyo

KR> elevator splice sketch enclosed (hopefully)

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Langford
Here's the lap joint I mentioned earlier...hopefully enclosed. -- Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: elevator_joint.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 17493 bytes Desc: not available URL:

KR> Elevator safety wire or?

2016-05-13 Thread stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl
Hi kr friends, Whe are almost so far to install the elevator for final. What did you all dois a locknut at the 3 hinge points enough?, should I work with loctite And a locknut or with a safetywire. The Safety wire or splitting pin is very hard to install. What do you all have? Thanks Stef -

KR> Elevator safety wire or?

2016-05-13 Thread Rob Schmitt
o one sees them below. Rob Schmitt N1852Z -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of stefkr2--- via KRnet Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:32 AM To: Kr net Kr net Cc: stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl Subject: KR> Elevator safety wire or? Hi kr friends, Whe

KR> Elevator moment.

2015-01-29 Thread Phillip Matheson
What are some average stick moments from a full up to full down given an average stick length. -- I would stick with the plans and set max movement by adding a stop that does not load the elevator. So place a stop at the stick to get your 30 & 20 deg. Phil Matheso

KR> Elevator movement

2015-01-29 Thread Mark Langford
Paul Visk wrote: >You'll notice he has adjustment holes in his lever that is welded to his >collar. Yep, those collars are a wonderful way to fasten a bellcrank to a tube. They sell them at McMaster Carr, called "shaft collars". Of course it can be welded, but the collar allows easy adjustm

KR> Elevator movement

2015-01-29 Thread ppaulvsk
new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: gluejam via KRnet Date:01/28/2015 11:29 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Subject: KR> Elevator movement */Larry said, "That might throw off the harmony and stick forces between the elevator and ailerons requ

KR> Elevator movement

2015-01-28 Thread gluejam
*/Larry said, "That might throw off the harmony and stick forces between the elevator and ailerons requiring more or less movement or stick forces in pitch or roll. I'd recommend sticking with the designed geometry." /*That brings up a question I have been wondering about: As designed, how

KR> Elevator moment.

2015-01-28 Thread Flesner
> If I reposition one of the push rods to use this extra movement. I > can reduce the elevator sensitivity. ++ That might throw off the harmony and stick forces between the elevator and ailerons requiring more or less mov

KR> Elevator moment.

2015-01-28 Thread ppaulvsk
First off, Thank you Ron. It was my pleasure. It's always a good idea to have other people look at your project. ?Last week I had one of our chapter tech advisors come over a couple of weeks ago. ? Back to eleivators. ?I was working on my 30 deg up and 20 deg down stops. I noticed I have a lot of

KR> elevator trim tab

2014-11-08 Thread Mark Langford
John Bouyea wrote: > >>During my entire flight today, I had to hold forward pressure on the > stick. ...That leaves the trim tab "neutral position" is set > incorrectly or it's just too darn small...Can anyone comment on facing > & curing the same problem in their KR?<< The first time I fle

KR> Elevator counter balance weight

2014-08-01 Thread Mark Langford
Another data point on elevator balancing is that Troy Petteway deleted his elevator balance when he lengthened his horizontal stabilizer and decreased the length of his elevators. I know he's done over 230 mph that way, so it's looking like that's been pretty well tested. See the fourth picture dow

KR> Elevator counter balance weight

2014-08-01 Thread Rob Schmitt
It would be great to see other KRs here at OSH. I got to fly my KR2s in the Homebuilders review on Weds as part of the airshow, so we certainly get plenty of recognition in the EAA community. I head home Saturday. Thanks, Rob > On Aug 1, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Sidney wood wrote: > > True, howe

KR> Elevator counter balance weight

2014-08-01 Thread Sidney wood
True, however I am more comfortable knowing that is one less thing to flutter. I did visit your KR on the Home Built line at OSH: Nice! Perhaps mine will make it there next year. Regards, Sid Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Rob Schmitt wrote: > > Sid, > > You could remove t

KR> Elevator counter balance weight

2014-08-01 Thread Rob Schmitt
Sid, You could remove that weight and improve your tail heavy weight and balance issue. Rob Schmitt N1852Z > On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Sidney wood via KRnet > wrote: > > My KR-2 has a single 2.6 pound counter weight on a remote 18-inch arm mounted > in the fuselage for 100 percent balan

KR> Elevator counter balance weight

2014-07-31 Thread Sidney wood
My KR-2 has a single 2.6 pound counter weight on a remote 18-inch arm mounted in the fuselage for 100 percent balancing of the elevator. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 Mechanicsville, MD, USA

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-30 Thread Paul Visk
Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Dan Heath Date:07/30/2014 5:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Paul Visk' Subject: RE: KR> Elevator trim hinge Paul, Are you looking for the HINGE that holds the tab to the elevato

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-29 Thread Pete Klapp
PaulContact AeroTech hobby shop, 902 N. Main, North Canton, OH 44720. 330-499-1300.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, OH > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:57 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > >

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-29 Thread Flesner
go to the hardware store, like ACE or similar, and find the "hobby" material like dowels, balsa wood, small lightweight brass and aluminum tubing. Select an aluminum tube in the quarter inch range and then get the tube that it slips inside of with no slop. I'd use thin wall aluminum and no

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-29 Thread Dan Heath
ering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Visk via KRnet Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:26 PM To: KR EMAIL BOARD Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge Does anyone have a s

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Visk
-05:00) To: 'Paul Visk' ,'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> Elevator trim hinge I get 1/4" nylaflow and others, from both AS and Wicks. You need to know what the ID is and they come in various wall thicknesses.

KR> Elevator trim hinge

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Visk
Does anyone have a source for some ?1/4" tubing and the rod that goes into it for the hinge on the elivator trim tab. I"ve looked in some hobby stores. But all I can find is ?5/32" with a rod that would fit into it. The plans call for ? 1/4".? Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 Sent on the

KR> Elevator weights advise

2014-05-20 Thread cruz...@frontiernet.net via KRnet
With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight? or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. How much weight are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.? I built the wider tail on N3151K and ?need ~ 4.5 pounds to statically balance my elevator w

KR> Elevator weights advise

2014-05-05 Thread ppaul...@aol.com via KRnet
I can't decide where to put my elevator counter weights. I'm adding three inche foam horns to the elevator and covering the hole thing with carbon fiber. With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did.

KR> elevator hinges per plans or double up on hinges

2012-12-21 Thread Mark Jones
Here is a link to the rod end bearings. http://www.n56ml.com/dean_hinge/ Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from

KR> elevator hinges per plans or double up on hinges

2012-12-21 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 11:25 PM 12/20/2012, you wrote: >are most builders using plans for elevator, rudder hinges or are >they doubling up on hinges. ++ The number of elevator hinges per plans is adequate. Add a third hinge to the rudder. Can

KR> Elevator removal....

2012-04-24 Thread phill.h...@gmail.com
How would you build it so it could be removed? You'd have to either install some sort of removable section in the aft spar of the VS or push the elevator behind the aforementioned spar. (thinking) OR build the elevator to come apart in two pieces. On , Dan Heath wrote: > It depends on how

KR> Elevator removal....

2012-04-24 Thread Dan Heath
It depends on how you build it. If you build to be able to remove it, then you can. If you build it by the plans, then the only way to remove it is to cut. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics  See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il – MVN – 40th Anniversary Th

KR> Elevator removal....

2012-04-23 Thread phill.h...@gmail.com
Is it not possible to remove the elevator once installed?...without cutting something or building a new one? Really?

KR> Elevator counterbalance

2011-07-24 Thread phillip matheson
My first KR2 had the Mark Langford design counter balance, My currant project I would like the balance tabs as part of the elevator. I have see some added as extras, buy to save looking through heaps of web pages, where can I find a more conventual design, like the RV or similar Phil Matheson

KR> Elevator

2010-12-26 Thread Lee Van Dyke
I concur, Jeffs way would be easier and better Lee Van Dyke Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2010, at 11:24 PM, "Jeff Scott" wrote: > When I rebuilt the tail on my KR to enlarge the stab and elevator, I > built my elevator as two pieces and inserted each half in from the > side, then sand

KR> Elevator

2010-12-25 Thread Jeff Scott
When I rebuilt the tail on my KR to enlarge the stab and elevator, I built my elevator as two pieces and inserted each half in from the side, then sandwiched them together between two aluminum plates. There are several pictures at , follow the KR links. When Lee Van Dyk

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-25 Thread Mark Langford
OK, I reread it and over-reacted. The picture was misleading too. I'd split the split and squirt some T-88 in it with a syringe, close it up and let it cure, and it'll be good as new. I wouldn't use Kevlar, and doubt that's what's there now. It's probably just fiberglass built using yellowed

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-25 Thread Jose Fuentes
Hi Mark, I value your opion very much, thoguh I might not been clear in my email, wish I could take some pictures but I'm in Orlando right now. Anyways, the Horz Stablizer is fine, nothing wrong with it, it's all on the elevator it looks like something just snapped it off on one side. Most of th

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-25 Thread Mark Langford
Joes Fuentes wrote: >>Someone had a whole Horz piece with elevator to sell me, though it >>occurred to me when I went to look at the lane in more detail that I'm not familiar with how the horz is attached?<< Yes, the horizontal stabilizer spars are normally epoxied to plywood bulkheads that al

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-25 Thread Jose Fuentes
Hi everyone Someone had a whole Horz piece with elevator to sell me, though it occurred to me when I went to look at the lane in more detail that I'm not familiar with how the horz is attached? I thought maybe it was bolted on and glassed in, so I would simply cut the glass and unbolt it. but it

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-19 Thread Larry Knox
rom: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Craig Williams Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:35 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Elevator? I think this is his list http://www.lebanair.com/adpics/krparts/index.html --- On Sun, 1

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-19 Thread Larry Knox
[mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jose Fuentes Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:27 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Elevator? I am in Tallahassee, FL I'm sure you seen my landing gear and other item requests, when you say you have a bunch of stuff, is it just mainly fueslege stuff?

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-19 Thread Craig Williams
I think this is his list http://www.lebanair.com/adpics/krparts/index.html --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Jose Fuentes wrote: > From: Jose Fuentes > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator? > To: "KRnet" > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 1:27 PM > I am in Tallahassee, FL > >

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-19 Thread Jose Fuentes
ssage- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of Jose Fuentes > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Elevator? > > Hi everyone, > > Was wondering if anyone had a complete elevator laying aro

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-18 Thread Larry Knox
...@lebanair.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jose Fuentes Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Elevator? Hi everyone, Was wondering if anyone had a complete elevator laying around from a junked proj

KR> Elevator?

2010-12-18 Thread Jose Fuentes
Hi everyone, Was wondering if anyone had a complete elevator laying around from a junked project that was in good shape? The project I took over has half the elevator missing, I've debated with myself on either rebuilding it or maybe if I'm lucky I can just buy one from a crashed plane or somethi

KR> Elevator control arm

2010-01-04 Thread Dan Heath
begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net] On Behalf Of jg7...@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:12 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Elevator control arm Qu

KR> Elevator control arm

2010-01-04 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
> I am using DR Dean hinges for the tail of my KR. Langford used 1in > aluminum Tee for his control arm. I am having trouble finding it > and where I did find it, they don't know the alloy. can anyone tell > me where to purchase this in 6061 T? >jg7...@mindspring.com ++

KR> Elevator control arm

2010-01-04 Thread jg7...@mindspring.com
Quick question for the group. I am using DR Dean hinges for the tail of my KR. Langford used 1in aluminum Tee for his control arm. I am having trouble finding it and where I did find it, they don't know the alloy. can anyone tell me where to purchase this in 6061 T? jg7...@mindspring.com Earth

KR> Elevator length 2

2009-10-17 Thread bdazzca...@aol.com
Well I went with Mark's AS5046-75 tail airfoil. But someone said to use some balancing tabs on that as well for more stability. I left my rudder to the size for the AS5046-75 airfoil as well but if I can get better performance with changing it let me know. With my KR I widened it 10" and st

KR> Elevator length

2009-10-16 Thread jscott.pi...@juno.com
I extended the rudder 3" at the bottom and 1" at the top. -Jeff On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:07:39 -0700 "Fred Johnson" writes: > Jeff, what is significant mean on your rudder size? > > Fred Johnson > Reno, NV > > > Jeff Scott wrote: > > FWIW, I also added to the cord of the rudder, which also ma

KR> Elevator length

2009-10-16 Thread Fred Johnson
Jeff, what is significant mean on your rudder size? Fred Johnson Reno, NV Jeff Scott wrote: FWIW, I also added to the cord of the rudder, which also made a significant improvement to the ability to slip the plane and made a big improvement to the crosswind landing capability of the aircraft.

KR> Elevator length

2009-10-16 Thread jscott.pi...@juno.com
I haven't seen any replies to this question, so I'll give my opinion and reference the testing I've done. Please refer to http://jscott.comlu.com and follow the link to the KR page. There's a lot more detail there. I flew my KR with the stock 72" tail for 500 hrs. Then I cut the tail off and

KR> Elevator length

2009-10-15 Thread bdazzca...@aol.com
Hey netters, I was just curious on how long people are making their elevators. I think I made mine 84" and that's including 5" each side for the balance tabs. Is this too excessive or about right for stability? David Swanson

KR> elevator weight

2008-10-12 Thread skp...@charter.net
Since we are on the subject I weighed my Elevator and Horizontal Stabilizer. (using bathroom scales, so take it for what could be close.) Horizontal Stabilizer... New airfoil with trim cable..primer...7 lbs Elevator...6.5 inches wider each side...with counter weights..primer..trim tab..9.5 lb

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread dr jay
Netters I need to know how many degrees the elevator needs to be able to travel both up and down on a KR2. I can't seem to find it anywhere in the plans. drjay in sunny arizona - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareC

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread Rich Seifert
Hi dr jay Elevator travel is up 30 degrees down 20 degrees. You can find it on KR-2 Drawing No. 7 which is page 29 in my KR Plans book. Have a great one. - Original Message - From: "dr jay" To: "kr2 kr2" Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: KR> Elev

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread dr jay
t one. - Original Message - From: "dr jay" To: "kr2 kr2" Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: KR> Elevator travel > Netters > > I need to know how many degrees the elevator needs to be able to travel both up and down on a KR2. I can't seem to find it

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread eric.pi...@starband.net
30 degrees down 20 degrees. You can find it on > KR-2 Drawing No. 7 which is page 29 in my KR Plans book. > Have a great one. > - Original Message - > From: "dr jay" > To: "kr2 kr2" > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: KR> Elevator trave

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread dr jay
I right or just wishful thinking? drjay - Original Message From: "eric.pi...@starband.net" To: kr...@mylist.net Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:10:57 PM Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel The plans I am looking at dated May 1986 Page 71 30deg up and 20 deg down. Eric > R

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread eric.pi...@starband.net
ric.pi...@starband.net" > To: kr...@mylist.net > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:10:57 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel > > > The plans I am looking at dated May 1986 Page 71 30deg up and 20 deg > down. > > Eric > >> Rich >> >> Thanks for

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread dr jay
picture is correct then I need to make a > cutout of suficient depth to line up the fitting holes. Am I right or > just wishful thinking? > > drjay > > > - Original Message > From: "eric.pi...@starband.net" > To: kr...@mylist.net > Sent: Friday, May

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
drjay wrote: > The #44 drawing shows the spar to be untouched but the Photo #29 pg 71 is as described below, so there seems to be a conflict between the drawing and the photo.dang! That notch you see in the picture is not in the wood, it's in the foam/glass sandwich . Mark Langford, Huntsv

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2008-10-12 Thread dr jay
input which this newbie appreciates. drjay dr jay wrote: Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: dr jay Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel To: KRnet Eric The #44 drawing shows the spar to be untouched but the Photo #29 pg 71 is as described below, so there seems to be a conflict

KR> Elevator travel

2008-10-12 Thread Eric Pitts
Message - From: "dr jay" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel > Eric > > The #44 drawing shows the spar to be untouched but the Photo #29 pg 71 is > as described below, so there seems to be a conflict between th

KR> Elevator Pushrod

2008-10-12 Thread mtmcgo...@aol.com
My RV-4 and Kitfox had elevator pushrods instead of cables. The pushrod was about 1 1/4 inch in diameter and used balljoint [heim] ends. There was a tapered aluminum part that the balljoint screwed into and was then riveted to the tubing. Anyone know where those can be bought other than Van

KR> Elevator Pushrod

2008-10-12 Thread e.j.pi...@att.net
Try Wicks @ www.wicks.com -- Eric Pitts Terre Haute, Indiana KR2S -- Original message -- From: mtmcgo...@aol.com There was a > tapered aluminum part that the balljoint screwed into and was then riveted > to > the > tubing. Anyone know where those can be bo

KR> Elevator Pushrod

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Mike McGowan wrote: > My RV-4 and Kitfox had elevator pushrods instead of cables. The pushrod was > about 1 1/4 inch in diameter and used balljoint [heim] ends. There was a > tapered aluminum part that the balljoint screwed into and was then riveted to the > tubing. Anyone know where those can b

KR> Elevator Pushrod

2008-10-12 Thread e.j.pi...@att.net
Is this what you are looking for? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/pushrod.html -- Eric Pitts Terre Haute, Indiana KR2S -- Original message -- From: mtmcgo...@aol.com The pushrod was > about 1 1/4 inch in diameter and used balljoint [heim] ends. There was

KR> Elevator Pushrod

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Eberhart
Van's is probably the most reasonable place to buy stuff like this. You can find everything that is used to build any of the RV's at the RV Parts Store on their web site. This is what their elevator pushrod ends look like: http://scott.jpainter.org/log/img/img_5313.jpg http://scott.jpainter.o

KR> elevator mass balance

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on extending the elevator horn either above or below and forward of the elevator, via a curved plate and mount the mass balance weight internally in the top of the rear fuse, below the elevator, or above the elevator in the base of the fin, obvio

KR> elevator mass balance

2008-10-12 Thread Joseph H. Horton
I have a mass balance in mine that predates the simpler design that Mark Langford and others are using. There was a fair amount of time invested in the idea and getting it all to fit and operate well, but it is fine and is tested to 200 mph with stock tail feathers. My pictures are from the olden d

KR> elevator mass balance

2008-10-12 Thread R. Eason Sr.
That is exactly what I did but the weight is on the bottom. I found it more difficult to mount it on the top part of the horn. I had to carve out some foam though to allow the movement. All of the control is by cable. Ronald R. Eason Sr. Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Lt

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