On 11/17/2020 2:59 PM, Samuel Spanovich via KRnet wrote:
I took a look at my trim last time I was up at the hangar, and even with full 
up trim, the trim tab moves a lot.  I understand it is supposed to move 
slightly as the elevator travels down and up, but this feels way more “loose” 
than anything; I can basically move the trim tab full deflection up and down at 
all times, even with full up trim.

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If you have your pitch trim set in the cockpit your trim tab should not move at all when you grasp it on the elevator and try to move it.  If it moves at all you have a problem and I'd get it corrected before next flight.  It was trim tab flutter / failure that brought down the P51 at Reno.

I started with a trim tab lever in the cockpit and model airplane steel cables to the tab on the elevator.  I wasn't comfortable with the slop / looseness in the tab at the elevator.  I installed the Ray Allen servo in the elevator with a short rod to actuate the tab.  It is rock solid with no movement from where it is set. That is the only acceptable mode of operation.  No slop.  If you get rid of the slop in the system your trim will work.

Here is a shot of my install.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyqod5cb5pmeom3/IMG_8615.JPG?dl=0

here is a shot of the amount of trim I need for landing

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn8dgb5y836j3um/IMG_8611.JPG?dl=0

another photo with cover

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8yrzf99baj1zeg/IMG_8612.JPG?dl=0

It sounds like you have a problem of moving your trim lever but the tab is not following.  Whatever system you use, eliminate all slop in the system.  You really don't want the tab  moving either as the elevator travels up or down.  Only "anti-servo" tabs on the Piper stabilator does that to induce feedback to the control yoke.  Next time you're standing behind a Piper move the stabilator up and down and check it out.

Larry Flesner


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