KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 114

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Orma wrote: > The type of nut that should be used would be a self locking nut and > the process of welding it would destroy the properties of the locking > feature. There are various types of clip nuts that could be used that > would stay in place and allow you to remove the bolts. Nylock PEM nuts

Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 114

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Serge VIDAL wrote: > According to Tony Bingelis, that's just another aviation legend. He > says they are good for 30 uses or so Depends on what the locking element is. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> LED lights

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Orma wrote: > > My question is > what is the normal usage for this light. Is it stop lamp, turn or > backup. 1156/1157s are brake lights. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> LED lights

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Doug Rupert wrote: >> Orma; I think I read somewhere that LED bulbs are rated at 10,000 >> hrs but don't quote me on it. They are now available at auto parts >> places as the kids today are using them on their flashy new cars. >> Available in a wide range of colors including red white and green. >>

KR> Fit two people

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ronald Metcalf wrote: > > You will find that most established KR builders become highly > suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have > not purchased plans yet. Kind of makes it tough to decide what to build, doesn't it? -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks wi

KR> Hangers

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Rick Human wrote: > I'm sharing a T hangar with a VP2 - They both fit with out a lot of > trouble - there are about 3 different configruations that have worked > for us - Were on a private grass strip @ 25 mi west of Houston and we > pay $198/mo. for a two year old hangar - on a cement slab with >

KR> Wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Glynnis Young wrote: > What other options are there? > Honduran Mahogany...34lbs/cu.ft > > > > Thank you for opening this avenue - I have access to a variety of > woods that I would never even have considered, eg. African Teak, > Mahogany, Rosewood and Kiaat. Where can I fi

KR> Kr Costs...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Stephen Jacobs wrote: > > After much frustration I learnt that it would not function over > certain speeds - not sure now, but I think it stopped registering > after 70mph. I've tested my eMap up to 140 MPH... umm... in an airplane. Yeah, that's it. I'll stick with that story ;) -- Steve N205FT

KR> project update suggestions/questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Scott Cable wrote: > > 3.) The air filter looks like it needs something to support it in the > center. Especially since you added a diffuser plate to the center of > the filter. From the way it is supported only along the top and > bottom, it concerns me that the combination of ram air and engine

KR> Court decision

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
rhartwi...@juno.com wrote: > I hope this sort of mentality in the insurance industry doesn't carry > over into other types of insurance. Such as: I buy a car--put a > performance chip in it--have a speeding related accident and find > that I am not covered.orinstall nonstandard shocks, et

KR> NOT KR Related

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
robert glidden wrote: > Seewhen you fly airplanes that don't have electrical systems,you > don't have to worry about all that fancy stuff not working.I guess > one could say she had a BAD day... Not as bad of a day as the mechanic should have had the next time he showed up at work... -- Stev

KR> Getting money back on my taxes

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Matthew Elder wrote: > Well you can't possibly remodel a bathroom for as cheap as you can > buy the canopy... :-) I think it's obvious! I could, but then I have enough stuff ratted away that I wouldn't have to buy much. I'm keeping it stashed for a time when I really need the extra wife points ;

KR> Buying and selling on the KRNet

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Phillip Matheson wrote: > > This is what I under stand PAYPAL is meant to do ?? > Am I wrong. Paypal is just a way to send money, and they're very good at stealing it themselves. If the buyer even hints at the product not being as described Paypal will take the money back from the seller permena

KR> Fw: [barnstormers.com] Re: GlassGauge Air Data Instruments

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
David Mikesell wrote: > Get used to bubba using you for his wife!!! Hey! What did I do to get dragged into all of this? ;) -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> Bubba

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
David Mikesell wrote: > I swear I don't know where they dd's came from. Generally the plastic surgeon, but they seem to be kept at certain drinking establishments around here... Sorry, very long day today. 12 hours standing in front of a milling machine tends to make me a bit annoying. -- Stev

KR> Parachutes

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Mark Langford wrote: > > Absolutely. And not only that, but structural failures are > incredibly rare in aircraft in general, KRs in particular. Only in > these rare cases will a parachute help, and as Bob says, there's no > guarantee then. Far more likely is fuel starvation, or an engine > prob

KR> recovery parachute system

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
joe wrote: > If one is really concerned, then lose some weight and install > a BRS. From what I have read they have a %100 successful > personal safety rate and in most cases the aircraft can be > reconstituted. > > Has anyone ever read any information that contradicts this > claim. They're only

KR> To laminate or not ...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Brian Kraut wrote: > From the FAA A.C. 43.13 (You have read the FAA bible, havn't you?): I was thinking it was more like the Necronomicron ;) > 1-43. REPLACING SOLID TYPE SPARS WITH LAMINATED TYPE SPARS > Solid spars may be replaced with laminated spars or vice versa, > provided the material is o

KR> To laminate or not ...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Donald Reid wrote: > > You do NOT want to make spar caps out of plywood. In the FAA > reference, they are talking about laminating using with the wood > fibers oriented along the length of the spar. The grain may be > oriented in a variety of different ways in spar lamination, but the > wood fi

KR> Call me crazy

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > I was thinking of making my own main gear out of carbon graphite. > 20-30 layers of 282, 4 inches wide, laid over a form to match the > shape of Groves gear. > > I know that carbon graphite can be brittle. I think it could build it > strong enough but would it be springy enough?

KR> Non-zero spar loads was Question on bent spars

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Wesley Scott wrote: > The vertical shear spar loads will not drop to zero inside the > fuselage, unless the seats are mounted to the longerons instead of to > the spar as they normally are. The horizontal shear loads caused by > the bending moments remain constant (not zero) inside the fuselage if

KR> bending radius

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Dene Collett (SA) wrote: > Hi again guys > Can someone give me the minimum bending radius for 1/8" 4130 plate > (with and across the grain). Doh! My car broke down on the way to work today so I don't have my charts handy. With a few exceptions min. bend rad. for most materials is equal to the th

Re: Réf. : KR> For Bubba on wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > > Let's see wood kit is 700 bucks. Say you save 300 bucks. Is three > hundred bucks worth carrying around that extra 10 lbs for the life of > the aircraft? > > I don't think so. My humble opinion again. Look at it a different way: Is that 10 pounds worth being 10% stronger? I k

Re: Réf. : KR> For Bubba on wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > Let's see wood kit is 700 bucks. Say you save 300 bucks. Is three > hundred bucks worth carrying around that extra 10 lbs for the life of > the aircraft? > > I don't think so. My humble opinion again. This is interesting. The boat, not counting skin, firewall, etc., is about 15

KR> doug fir

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patrusso wrote: > > Indeed, I have just finished building an Horizon 2 for a non > woodworking friend. The kit was all pine. Yes pine. 3/4 square stock > for the fuselage with 3/32 plywood covering on the sides and fabric > top and bottom. It is amazing what you can get away with. One must > just b

KR> doug fir

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
rhartwi...@juno.com wrote: > > Where does this info come from? You can't increase the strength of > wood simply by cutting it into strips and gluing it back together. Sure you can, especially if the part needs to be bent. Just flip every other strip so the grain directions cancel out. It's just

KR> Bathroom Scales

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Brian Kraut wrote: > > This assumes that you have access to an accurate scale for your > calibration. Use the one at the post office. It would be best if there were no witnesses ;) -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> going to Reno

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
larry flesner wrote: > > Have you gone to Mark Langford's site and checked out the KR100 ? > > It raced at Reno several years. To find the current owner, go to the > FAA site and do a search for KR100. I think the N number may > have been 100KR. Yup. Saw it and want one. It would be just about p

KR> going to Reno

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
BSHADR wrote: > > Actually, Doug Pearce was the last owner while it was in AZ. He went > through a divorce. The plane migrated to Alabama the end of July > 2003. Jim Stone purchased it. Sorry, I do not have any contact info > for him. I would guess one of the regular Reno Formula 1 guys would

KR> To laminate or not ...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Stephen Jacobs wrote: > > I also believe this - so here is a question for the knowledgeable > among us: > > How about making up wing spar caps out of several laminations of ply? > As we are taught, a good scarf makes for any length you like without > any strength compromise. > > 8 x 1/4" lamination

KR> Parachutes

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Call me paranoid, but I'm thinking it's a good idea to wear a chute while flying my project, and not just during the 40 hours. So now I'm stuck with a bit of a situation. I need a chute to design the seat, but if I buy a chute now I have to pay to get it repacked every 4 months even though I'm n

KR> Parachutes

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Jim Sellars wrote: > Steve:\ >Practically speaking if the thing won't work you don't need it. > If you have ever sat in a KR2 you would know that getting out with > the wind forces and all that would make it almost impossible to > egress unless you made the canopy an emergency release. On the

KR> parachutes

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patric...@usfamily.net wrote: > I was certified as a chute packer while in the Air Force Reserves. > It is not difficult to do and I would think that if you joined a > local sky divers club you could learn and get yourself certified to > pack your own chute and you could also get in a few jumps t

KR> To laminate or not ...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patric...@usfamily.net wrote: > > If laminations are as strong as I think they are, why couldn't a > person laminate a well grained piece of pine for spar caps? Yup, just have to calculate the strength and make sure it's suitable. Also have to make sure the wood is durable enough. It would suck m

KR> To laminate or not ...

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patrusso wrote: > Not a good idea. Not all the plys are going in the direction you > would want them to for the spar. There are many planes with plywood > spars but they are usually capped with a solid timber. We're not talking about going down to Home Depot and getting a sheet of 1" CDX. All the

KR> All the metal bits

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Is there currently a source for wing attach fittings, control surface horns, and all those other little metal bits scattered through the airframe? If not I might be able to do something about that. I just accepted a job at a shop with, among other things, the biggest waterjet I've ever seen. I c

KR> To laminate or not /...dihedral

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
larry flesner wrote: > > If you're looking for pure speed, why have any dihedral at all ?? > > Dihedral = stability and stability = drag ? Or has my brain exceeded > > Vne? Yeah it's probably a little more drag, but I kinda like it when my landing gear would rather point down than up ;) -- Stev

KR> Question on bent spars

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > I plan to make my spars with the dihedral bend at the fuselage. Mark > Lankford wrote that this bend might occur inside the fuselage. > > If they are built that way I don't see how they can rest on the > bottom longeron, and still be in plane with the rear spar. (because > of the

KR> Spar questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
B. Ferguson wrote: > Hello, > > With this discussion on spar strength I was curious to know if any of > the techniques discussed, along with the extra thickness of the 5048 > airfoil, would add enough strength to the center section to allow for > fitting of the 1-B wings? Adding a large amount to

KR> All the metal bits

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
robert glidden wrote: > I could >> easily cut multiple sets of every metal bit in a KR2 in one setup. > > I may be interested in a few things if you can swing them,let me > know.. glid...@ccrtc.com Once I get the plans, digitize the parts in question, lay it out, and figure out what it'll cost I'

KR> Spar questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > Why test a pair of spars? One will do. One stock, one laminated. Gotta have a control :) > And as far as a test setup > and apparatus, check out > http://www.flysquirrel.net/wing/spartest.html and see if you can > duplicate the high-tech test setup detailed there... PS; I

KR> Re: Bubba

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Mark Jones wrote: > Steve, > Please excuse my ignorance as I may have missed your introduction to > the KR family. Where are you located? A bit north of Houston, purely by force. > What is your age and building > experience? 30 and no full scale, but more RC than I can remember. Been flying for

Re: Réf. : Re: KR> VE resin

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Phillip Matheson wrote: > Scott > Just to clear up my mind > Are you saying that if you paint PVA release agent onto a layup on > V/E or P/E resin it will make it dry better?? > > V/E does have drying problems, it stays tacky for some time, > Does PVA help this. VE and PE resins are air inhibited.

KR> VE resin

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Stephen Jacobs wrote: > > I am also interested in the comment regarding PVA as a potential > solution, but what are we talking about - PVA wood glue? PVA water > soluble release agent? PVA wall paint? The release agent stuff that washes off easily. I never, ever use wax (or waxed resin) since it

KR> VE resin

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Glasseyegav wrote: > So you approve of using foreign materials like PVA inside your fuel > tanks! "I DON'T THINK SO" I don't need that sort of contamination > in my tanks. I wouldn't use PVA in there any more than I would wax, actually. You can't see the inside of the tanks, why would you nee

KR> VE resin

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Glasseyegav wrote: > > U you wouldn't need to sand them ! but you also don't > want to have uncured resin in there either. True, but then I'm planning on aluminum tanks anyway. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> Buying wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
A few years ago, the first time I started thinking about building a KR, there was a bunch of talk about the difficulty of finding decent sitka spruce. Has that changed any? Because of that, and the need for more strength, I had decided to use douglas fir. That decision still stands for the most

KR> Buying wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patric...@usfamily.net wrote: > Bubba, > The first KR I built, I went to the local boat yard in White Bear > Lake, > MN and bought some Sitka spruce from them. The local FBO at So. St. > Paul > airport carried aircraft plywood so I was covered all directions. > Try a boat

KR> Buying Wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
ronev...@cox.net wrote: > > Since most mill-run construction lumber isn't dried, a builder would > want to season it until the moisture content is reducted to a minimum > in order to ensure that the fibers sabilize. If I remember right there is kiln dried wood available for furniture makers. I su

KR> Assembler, was Newbie Questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Dana Overall wrote: > > Got my firewall painted Imron black Does Imron stick to stuff besides aluminum? I've never used it. Personally I'm going to engine turn all the stainless and aluminum under the cowl, but everything else is getting painted. Plain, boring arctic white with a red/blue color

KR>Knock out punch, Assembler, was Newbie Questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Jack Cooper wrote: > I think Dana is going to deliver the knock out punch when he flies his > assembled kit before many of us who have been building our KRs long > before he started assembling. Sometimes I wish I could put rivet A > into hole B and go flying, or is that rivet 7281 into hole 7282?

KR> Assembler, was Newbie Questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Jack Cooper wrote: > Dana > How can you land a RV on 5.9 acres with a creek, pond, woods and a > log home on it? You'll need more grass or rotor blades one. Oh, you > don't do rotors do you. Good, old fashioned 1 point landing? Getting in is easy, getting out might take a bigger engine. -- Steve

KR> Buying Wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
renosad...@aol.com wrote: > Steve is it just the boat you have built or do you have th tali > feathers to? I have nothing yet, but gimme a month or two and I'll have at least a funny looking canoe in the garage. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will

KR> Tweety Flew

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Orma wrote: > obsession with aviation. > > Poor lady, she has only seen the tip of your Iceberg. Just look at > Bill, I don't think he has had a weekend at home lately. I already told my wife I'm putting the hangar's address on my driver's license. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who s

KR> Tweety Flew

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Brian Kraut wrote: > They don't get really upset until you start listing the N number as > your spouse! Yup, I'm dead... I haven't mentioned there's only going to be one seat, either. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR>Knock out punch, Assembler, was Newbie Questions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Dana Overall wrote: > > Steve, after building a KR-2 it is somewhat different. I still > remember Langford's face when I clecoed together an entire flap in > something like 2.5 minutes:-) I was going to build an RV-4, until I remembered I suck at sheet metal. If it's a flat piece I can generally

KR> VE resin fuel Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Doug Rupert wrote: > > I have been > watching the PVA thread and wondered why go to all the trouble when > resin/material suppliers all carry Air Dry which is especially made > to eliminate the tackiness problem and is used for the final lay-up > for a smooth slick surface that is tack free. I jus

KR> For Bubba on wood

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > When there has never been a structural failure with a KR using > spruce, why would you add ten pounds to the structure? Build as light > as you can. Ounces can kill you in the end, why add pounds? > > My humble opinion of course. I'm going to Reno and have to demonstrate a 5g pu

KR> VE resin fuel Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
gleone wrote: > Doug, > This sounds like a great idea. Thanks for sharing it as I'm going to > be starting on my tanks here shortly. Quick question: Are you > roughing the surface before applying the gelcoat or applying it > directly and how many coats? Normally you spray or brush a coat of gel

KR> Hypothetical question

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Hello, I'm the new guy and about to start building a stretched KR2S, either narrowed to one fat seat or widened to two skinny ones. Well, actually more like a normal seat and a folding jumpseat, but that's a minor detail. Now the question. How strong is the structure of the KR2S as built accordi

KR> Selling my Kr?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
robert glidden wrote: > You put your dog higher on the list then I would > > >> Here's a list of things I would never sell or give up. >> >> My: >> >> 1. Faith >> 2. Wife >> 3. Kids >> 4. Country >> 5. Dog >> 6. Kr2s Wife is way higher, too. Airplanes may argue with you, but, unli

KR> Selling my Kr?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Brian Kraut wrote: > And I thought the first one to chime in on that one would mention > that the wife comes just after the KR. Sorry, I would have said something sooner but my wife was yelling at me again. -- Steve mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR>Dog?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Mark Langford wrote: > > Dog? What dog? See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05011308m.jpg , > dated Jan 13, 2005. Fortunately Jeanie came home early and stopped > the carnage. No, I haven't killed it.yet. But I was thinking a > little closer to China... Just glass the dog heavily using sc

KR> Dimensioned 3-views?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Does anyone have any 3 views, mainly top and side, with dimensions, of a KR2S sitting around? I'm building on in X-Plane just to mess around with it and can't quite get the fuselage to look right. -- Steve mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> Panel lighting

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Jack Cooper wrote: > Jim Weir had a good article in Kit Plane this month about panel >lighting using cold cathode lights and el wire. I just ordered > some from http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? I'll have to go find that issue. I'm a bit concerned about noise on the radio, though.

KR> Hypothetical question

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Brian Kraut wrote: > I think you could easily get the 220 you are after using a 140 HP or > so Corvair like Mark L. is using or even a souped up O-200. Build it > light and you could be a serious contender for the Pazmany efficiency > contest or any other race that will class you with other planes

KR> KR1, KR2, or KR2S?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
I got to thinking about it and there's really no point in putting a 2nd seat in my airplane. I'm a big guy and barely fit into a Navion with anyone else, so the chances of stuffing anything else that breathes into that fuselage with me is laughable. So is there enough of a difference in the basi

KR> KR1, KR2, or KR2S?

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Ron Smith wrote: > > The inside dimentions of a C-172 cabin width is 39 inches. My inside > dimention for cabin with is 42.25. I widened my cabin by 6 > inches. I'm buliding a KR2S, much the way you described. Use the Kr > archives to find out the details on my plane. I reccomend you > read Mark

KR> Spar dimensions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Does anyone have the dimensions of the spar caps (width and depth) and the length and thickness of the blocks between them handy? I'm bored and feel like figuring out how strong the things are. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> Soda for gathering

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
robert glidden wrote: > Dana > It's like a guy I used to ride with,he on his Harley and me on my > goldwing.He said atleast you are riding.Atleast your flying in > something.Get there earlier this year so you can join the after hour > forums..Bob In that case I might actually be able to appear, as

KR> VE resin

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
jscott.pi...@juno.com wrote: > VE resin should work fine for that. The strength qualities are > similar to epoxy. Final sanding can be a bit more difficult, which > is why I think most KR builders would build this part with Epoxy. If VE is anything like PE, spray it with PVA after the layup is f

KR> Soda for gathering

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Matthew Elder wrote: > > Two votes for Amber Bock.. And here I thought I was > the only one in the south that drank the stuff... If the stars align right I'll bring some homebuilt stuff (seems appropriate). There's some cider sitting on the counter that looks like used motor oil and will strip I

KR> Spar dimensions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: >Check your plans, Virg I would if they were here yet... -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.

KR> Spar dimensions

2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: >And he who waits will get the plans, Virg ( or should this have > been > sent direct??) And he who plans ahead and verifies the spar design in the plane is suitable for his uses will survive to fly again. -- Steve N205FT mystic...@swbell.net He who seeks will f