Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved windows bat file

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Austin
Stefan, My plan is to have a directory called .jump in the user's home directory. This file would contain each user's specific configuration. The file openjump.profile is used to allow users to override any of the startup parameters such as Java menu options and any JUMP command line options. The

[JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Austin
The current implementation of the Basic StylePanel does not include the editable flag. The upshot of this is if you want to tdefine some kind of custom style and disable the basic style you can't do this. Because if the user uses the style dialog a new basic style is created without maintaining the

[JPP-Devel] R: Improved windows bat file

2007-09-17 Thread P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente
May I suggest to introduce a "profile" concept, so that each user can define more than one configuration set and decide which one to use when launching OJ??? Bye Paolo Rizzi > -Messaggio originale- > Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > conto di Paul > Austin > Inviato: l

Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Improved windows bat file

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Austin
If we do anything such as profiles, I think this would be done in Java rather than in a bat,sh, or exe file. Paul P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente wrote: > May I suggest to introduce a "profile" concept, > so that each user can define more than one configuration set > and decide which one to use when

[JPP-Devel] interesting extension

2007-09-17 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi all I found this interesting extension for Arcview, Jump 1.0 project file is also supported Regards peppe ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --

Re: [JPP-Devel] Improved windows bat file

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
ok.. that sounds good. But we need also to get sure, that OJ/JUMP keeps it "pack & go" property.. which i realy like :) stefan Paul Austin wrote: >Stefan, > >My plan is to have a directory called .jump in the user's home >directory. This file would contain each user's specific configuration. >

[JPP-Devel] Interesting extension

2007-09-17 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
http://gix.sourceforge.net/ I found this interesting extension for Arcview Jump 1.0 project file is aldo supported Peppe ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --

Re: [JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
ok.. fine for me stefan Paul Austin wrote: >The current implementation of the Basic StylePanel does not include the >editable flag. The upshot of this is if you want to tdefine some kind of >custom style and disable the basic style you can't do this. Because if >the user uses the style dialog a n

[JPP-Devel] R: R: Improved windows bat file

2007-09-17 Thread P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente
But if you store the configuration stuff inside the user's home directory, each user wil have only one set of configuration available, or not??? OK, the user may always user some other more explicit mean to specify configurations, but... What about subdirectories of the user's home dir. Each subdir

Re: [JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Paul, ColorThemingSyle disables the BasicStyle when it is enabled and vice versa. See ColorThemingStylePanel.updateStyles(). Why would we want to put this responsibility in the hands of the user? regards, Larry On 9/17/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok.. fine for me >

Re: [JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Austin
Why not? For example a user may want to use the label style but not have the Point or line displayed Paul Larry Becker wrote: > Hi Paul, > > ColorThemingSyle disables the BasicStyle when it is enabled and vice > versa. See ColorThemingStylePanel.updateStyles(). Why would we want > to put th

Re: [JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Bad example. It does that now. Larry On 9/17/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not? > > For example a user may want to use the label style but not have the > Point or line displayed > > Paul > > Larry Becker wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > > > ColorThemingSyle disables the BasicStyle wh

Re: [JPP-Devel] Enabled for BasicStylePanel

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Turn off line and fill. On 9/17/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bad example. It does that now. > > Larry > > On 9/17/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not? > > > > For example a user may want to use the label style but not have the > > Point or line displayed > > >

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Re: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Edgar Soldin
Not really ;) ... after posting the snippet mentioned, i also had a look in your docs and found the utility class, even posted about it in the list (see attachment). once again .. respect to you geotools folks, you really made a nice feature even more handy by creating the utility class. just

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Re: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Jody Garnett
Edgar Soldin wrote: > Not really ;) ... > > after posting the snippet mentioned, i also had a look in your docs > and found the utility class, even posted about it in the list (see > attachment). > once again .. respect to you geotools folks, you really made a nice > feature even more handy by c

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
That is some serious data! I've got Windows Vista/Debian Linux running an a dual core processor at home. I will have to see how the numbers compare. The Sunburned Surveyor On 9/16/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I put my new Vista PC together this weekend and fixed the Vista issue >

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
You can get away with 512MB if you're willing to wait a long time. I think I used 750. The four counties parcel data occupied about 470MB committed memory. The memory bottleneck during loading is the simultaneous rendering. SkyJUMP currently turns off event firing after the first layer, when loa

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Stefan, I just looked at the code and it appears we already have a selectable property in Layer. However, the setSelectable() method is currently only called from ImageFeatureCreator. The isSelectable() method is called in AbstractSelection, so it appears that all we need to do to add a me

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
I just created a SelectablePlugIn by copying EditablePlugIn and making a few trivial changes. It seems to work like a charm! Now, do we need Snappable, (Sp?) or should not Selectable imply not Snappable? It doesn't currently. Larry On 9/17/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Stef

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Larry Becker wrote: > I just created a SelectablePlugIn by copying EditablePlugIn and making > a few trivial changes. It seems to work like a charm! > > Now, do we need Snappable, (Sp?) or should not Selectable imply not > Snappable? It doesn't currently. > I can definitely see situations w

[JPP-Devel] Thoughts on ZoomRealtimeTool behaviour

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
The ZoomRealtime Tool is a very cool idea... but the way it works seems a bit confusing to me. I would have expected it to keep the initial point that was clicked directly under the mouse cursor as zooming takes place. I guess for this to work zooming in would have to take place no matter wh

Re: [JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
we should post this on the wiki :) love it stefan Adrian Custer schrieb: > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: >> Edgar Soldin wrote: >>> just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option? > > ... > >> My impression is that this is scary math I never quite underst

Re: [JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Well, who'd have thought there was such an obvious explanation? Good stuff! Adrian Custer wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > >> Edgar Soldin wrote: >> >>> just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option? >>> > > ... > > >> My impressi

Re: [JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
LOL! Clear as mud! Larry On 9/17/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we should post this on the wiki :) > love it > > stefan > > Adrian Custer schrieb: > > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > >> Edgar Soldin wrote: > >>> just one question .. what is this bursa

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
This is the right way to go IMO, Larry/all. We added the Selectable option while building the Image framework, to avoid having image bounding boxes selected all the time. But we never pushed this out to be visible to the user. Time to do it, I guess! Have you thought about how to make this v

Re: [JPP-Devel] Thoughts on ZoomRealtimeTool behaviour

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Martin, On 9/17/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ZoomRealtime Tool is a very cool idea... but the way it works seems > a bit confusing to me. I would have expected it to keep the initial > point that was clicked directly under the mouse cursor as zooming takes > place. Good

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
How about Italicizing the layer name? This is consistent with bold meaning Editable. Larry On 9/17/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the right way to go IMO, Larry/all. We added the Selectable > option while building the Image framework, to avoid having image > bounding boxe

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
mhm.. usecase: if you have activated a drawing tool (such as polygon drawing) then you can not select at the same time, right? .. so from this point of few, not selectable can/should imply not snappable, because slectable layers are still be snappable. so it could be named a double funtion selec

Re: [JPP-Devel] Drag'n'Drop?

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
Looked into it (accidentally) when we were implementing Category dragging (not in OJ yet). It looked pretty hard - more than a days work. Those uDig folks cheat - they use RCP. Larry On 9/17/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My day to be ideas guy. > > Has anyone looked at implemen

[JPP-Devel] Drag'n'Drop?

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
My day to be ideas guy. Has anyone looked at implementing drag'n'drop inside OJ? Specifically, - drag-n-drop a data file onto a view to load it - drag-n-drop layers between views Just an idea I know uDig does this, maybe I'll ask those guys to see how hard it would be. -- Martin Davis Se

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Good idea. So italics would mean NOT Selectable, right? I think Stefan's right - ultimately an icon change would be good too (or maybe a second icon showing the states). But the font change is good and quick to do now. Hey, I just thought of something which might be handy. In Swing Tooltips

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
That would certainly be consistent with the ESRI feature dataset model which puts so much emphasis on extent and coordinate system. Can't say I'd find a use for it though. My maps all tend to be small and contiguous. Larry On 9/17/07, Martin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry, > > Looking

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Larry, Looking at your (or is this in OJ now?) Layer Info dialog - would it be worth adding the extent of the layer (as a POLYGON wkt string) to the information listed? Larry Becker wrote: > I put my new Vista PC together this weekend and fixed the Vista issue > with the layer combo box in tool

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Re: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
>> just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option? it is used to transform from one ellipsoid (e.g. WGS84) to another ellipsoid (e.g. Clarke 1866). (actually on the geotools page they speak of spheroid instead ellipsoid, where the latter is a specialisation) and - i am not really

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Larry, you rock! What was the mem size setting that you used? Every so often I wonder about whether it's possible to use 64-bit Java and huge memory sizes to allow processing massive datasets. Anyone had any experience with this? Larry Becker wrote: > I put my new Vista PC together this weeke

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
I guess if I got used to decoding those tiny symbols on the icons in Eclipse, I can do it in JUMP too. :-} Yea, we already enhanced the layer tooltips to show the full source path, so adding the essential data on as additional lines should be doable too. I added mouse wheel zooming to the PanToo

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Fwd: Re: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Michaël Michaud
>it is used to transform from one ellipsoid (e.g. WGS84) to another >ellipsoid (e.g. Clarke 1866). (actually on the geotools page they speak >of spheroid instead ellipsoid, where the latter is a specialisation) > >and - i am not really sure, but there is second method that can be used >for such

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Davis
Great work! What I like about this list is that you can throw out an idea and like magic it gets implemented 20 minutes later. 8^) But seriously... it's very inspiring interacting with a bunch of clever people all focussed on making JUMP work better. I checked with the uDig guys... DnD is ge

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Steiniger
I actually would prefer to have switched icon in the layer menu (maybe for both editing and selecting). Because i am not sure that people recognize the change. but the image use can be defered to a later version > Is there currently a Snappable setting on layers in OJ? Or is this > still just

[JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Adrian Custer
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > Edgar Soldin wrote: > > just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter option? ... > My impression is that this is scary math I never quite understood. The > javadocs describe it all detail (and have links to papers etc..). Well,

Re: [JPP-Devel] Layer Properties

2007-09-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I'd like to use Layerable, since that will give us more flexibity down the road. SS On 9/13/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yep! > > i agree, and this reminds me on having the same for features that show > the most prominent "what i want to know about" .. ie. number of > vertice

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
The Layer Info is in OJ now, and I certainly intended that it should be extended further, so if someone is motivated, please add away. Larry On 9/17/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would certainly be consistent with the ESRI feature dataset model > which puts so much emphasis o

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
If anyone is interested in the sample data that I used, you can download it at: http://www.capcog.org/Information_Clearinghouse/geospatial_main.asp Larry On 9/17/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is some serious data! I've got Windows Vista/Debian Linux running > an a dual

Re: [JPP-Devel] Hasta la Vista, bug

2007-09-17 Thread Michaël Michaud
> >Every so often I wonder about whether it's possible to use 64-bit Java >and huge memory sizes to allow processing massive datasets. Anyone had >any experience with this? > > I'm also very interested with 64-bit java experience feedback as even with 1500Mo dedicated to the jvm, I have ofte

[JPP-Devel] List of OpenJUMP Functions - Edits To "File" Menu

2007-09-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Peppe, I have completed my review and edits of the "File" Menu descriptions in you "List of OpenJUMP Functions". You have done some great documentation work, and we really appreciate it. I only had minor changes, like fixing some "plural tense" mistakes and also revising some fragment sentences.

[JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP I18N English Properties File

2007-09-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Uwe and others, I have created an Eclipse project just for the I18N property files. This will allow me to easily make updates to these files on the JPP SourceForge SVN repository without commiting changes from other things I am working on. I quickkly skimmed the file, and it appears that most of

Re: [JPP-Devel] Bursa-wolf parameters [WAS: Projection with Geotools2 CRS]

2007-09-17 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hey, In the "for dummies" collection, "geodesy for dummies", from adrian, will surely become a best seller :-) Michael Adrian Custer a écrit : >On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 10:46 -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > > >>Edgar Soldin wrote: >> >> >>>just one question .. what is this bursa wolf parameter

[JPP-Devel] Using PDF Files As Embedded Help

2007-09-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I decided that I would try Peppe's idea of using PDF files as embedded help in OpenJUMP. I'm going to have a "help" button in some of the dialogs in my Super Select Tool. The button will open a designated PDF file using a PDF viewer/reader. I would like to know if we can use a common variable to

Re: [JPP-Devel] Using PDF Files As Embedded Help

2007-09-17 Thread Larry Becker
It seems like to me that for most kinds of simple help that it would be better to use html and store the documents in the jar. Java can display simple html well enough for help. Larry On 9/17/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I decided that I would try Peppe's idea of using PDF