Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Jenn V.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > I'd actually point towards reading lots as the determining factor. > The encouragement of intellectualism and access to a decent library > (public or school library, whatever) seems to make people think for > themselves about this kind of thing. There's a correlati

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Sunnanvind
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michelle Peglar wrote: > I'm personally in favour of the webadmin idea. I don't really see a need > for gender specific language in any job title or generic name.. It's one > of my personal soap box topics - I think we should all get rid of using > gender specific language

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Janus
At 01:57 AM 01/13/2000 GMT, you wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Emily Cartier wrote: > >I'd actually point towards reading lots as the determining factor. >The encouragement of intellectualism and access to a decent library >(public or school library, whatever) seems to make people think

RE: [issues] Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Ian Phillips
> > > > and dislike the assumptions made about Ms > > > Such as? > > That it is pronounced Miss, > Really? In the US, it's pronounced "Miz." Has been for more than a century > though there wasn't a standardised spelling for it. I've always pronounced it "miz" as well, it seems fairly common in t

RE: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Ian Phillips
> Curiously, I've never been corrected with "thats Doctor! whoever" by anyone who's a > doctor of something useful (medicine, hard sciences, engineering). Also I've never Most of the people I know who are Doctors of anything other than medicine only ever use the title to poke fun at themselves.

RE: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Ian Phillips
> > The diminutive of Mister is Master, but AFAIK it's not in common > > usage and is age centric. > My son has received mail addressed to "Master." I quite like Esquire, but mainly for the fact that it is such an anachronism these days! > The reason for this is that, traditionally, a woman com

[issues] Eur. Ing.? was Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Ian Phillips wrote: > > Curiously, I've never been corrected with "thats Doctor! whoever" by > > anyone who's a doctor of something useful (medicine, hard sciences, > > engineering). Also I've never > > Most of the people I know who are Doctors of anything other than > medi

Re: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Jenn V.
Ian Phillips wrote: > I'm not sure about that. I though that women traditionally "came of age" > when they >where considered old enough to marry, usually between 12 and 15 > years. I suspect >that the idea that a woman "comes of age" once she has > married arose around the >same time as the wh

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Kimbol Soques
At 02:22 PM 1/13/00 -0500, Sunnan wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michelle Peglar wrote: > > of my personal soap box topics - I think we should all get rid of using > > gender specific language when referring to something or someone that could > > possibly be male or female. > >I disagree - imagine

Re: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:27:10 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I quite like Esquire, but mainly for the fact that it is such an >anachronism these days! "Esquire", these days, means you're an attorney. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Michelle Peglar
Title: RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise > -Original Message- > From: Sunnanvind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2000 22:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise > > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michelle Peglar wrote: > >

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Rachel Greenham
Sunnanvind wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michelle Peglar wrote: > > I'm personally in favour of the webadmin idea. I don't really see a need > > for gender specific language in any job title or generic name.. It's one > > of my personal soap box topics - I think we should all get rid of usin

Re: CVs and CVS (was Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise)

2000-01-13 Thread Rachel Greenham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hmm. I could be wrong, but I think one person is talking about CVs > (curriculum vitae) and another is talking about CVS (Concurrent Versions > System). CVs are what we in the U.S. call resumes (imagine accents in the > apporpriate places). CVS is a source control/c

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On 13 Jan 2000, Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > Speaking of websites, I used to be "webmaster" for an ISP. I asked my > boss permission to set up aliases for either "webadmin" or "webmistress" > and use them, but was told that I wasn't to do it. So I ended up > getting an awful lot of webmaster

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On this topic of -ess endings, interestingly enough Miss Manners had something to say about it in her most recent column. I actually agree with some of her points -- what do you all think? http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-01/12/146l-011200-idx.html I mean, isn't taking the m

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > On 13 Jan 2000, Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > > > Speaking of websites, I used to be "webmaster" for an ISP. I asked my > > boss permission to set up aliases for either "webadmin" or "webmistress" > > and use them, but was told that I wasn't to do

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Sunnanvind
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Cat wrote: > I mean, isn't taking the male word as the neuter word doing the > same thing as using mankind vs humankind? I personally dislike the fact > that 'he' and 'his' are supposed to be used when referring to a possible > person of either gender. I really enjoyed my op

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Sunnanvind
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michelle Peglar wrote: > So anyway, I think just drop the -ess words. A woman or a man - the person > is still a priest. Or an actor. Or a waiter. Or a firefighter. Or a > doctor. Or a nurse. Hey that brings up another point. There are no > Doctoress'! I wonder why no

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Sunnanvind wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Cat wrote: > > I mean, isn't taking the male word as the neuter word doing the > > same thing as using mankind vs humankind? I personally dislike the fact > > that 'he' and 'his' are supposed to be used when referring to a possible >

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 03:26:40 +0100, Sunnanvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Most women nowadays never weres dresses anymore, but it can be >confortable sometimes. I'd rather have people of both sexes wear >dresses than having it banned altogether. Men's clothing is so _boring_. A dress every now

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:53:42 -0500 (EST), Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Just a quick clarification -- in my operating systems course, every >reference *in our textbook* was she and her. Oops! Several textbook authors have gone to this, or to alternating between male and female pronouns. I hav

[issues] [Fwd: linux conf in germany]

2000-01-13 Thread Deb Richardson
Can anyone help this guy out? Pit Schultz wrote: > > dear deb, > > maybe you can help me. > > i am organizing a thread of a linux conference > at the zkm, karlsruhe germany at the end of march. > it's the social-political-cultural part. of course > there are lots of men in this business but i