Thanks, Tony,
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 01:17:17PM -0800, Tony Li wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > I just ran against control plane resource limitations in products way more
> > often during the decades than i felt necessary knowing what control plane
> > p
Hey wait. I didn't even say tunnel at all ;-)
I just said you can unfortunately not claim to be an Internet ISP and
not carry the whole bloody BGP routing table by just using LISP (unfortunately).
Aka: Joe touch pointed out that something like LISP (on-demand routing
information
if thats an appr
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 08:19:42PM -0800, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
> I disagree; a tunnel (done correctly) is isomorphic to a link. There’s no
> difference between tunnels and what we already rely on as “L2”.
I guess wrt. routing we (Internet Routing Architecture) started out with
alot of simp
FWIW:
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>
> I just said you can unfortunately not claim to be an Internet ISP and
> not carry the whole bloody BGP routing table by just using LISP
> (unfortunately).
>
> Aka: Joe touch pointed out that something like LISP (on-demand routing
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Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
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> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 08:19:42PM -0800, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
>> I disagree; a tunnel (done correctly) is isomorphic to a link. There’s no
>> difference between tunnels
I didn't say you said tunnel. I was stating for clarity, since people think
LISP does tunnels (because we have terminlogy that implies it, ex. Ingress
Tunnel Router (ITR)). Tunnels, from the original introduction of them were
virtual/logical point-point interfaces in a router/switch implementati
But if LISP is running in CPE routers, the enterprise has a say on which paths
are used to get to a destination EID. So I would argue the enterprise does have
impact.
Dino
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:49 PM, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
>
> FWIW:
>
>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Toerless Eckert
> There is a base case to the recursion, i.e., where logical information meets
> fermions and bosons (literally). But that tells you only that base layer; it
> tells you nothing about the meaning of the headers you see inside, e.g., in
> OSI, they would be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, but in an IP tunnel, the
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:00 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>
>> There is a base case to the recursion, i.e., where logical information meets
>> fermions and bosons (literally). But that tells you only that base layer; it
>> tells you nothing about the meaning of the headers you see inside, e.g., in
There is no UDP port number assigned for GRE because it does not run over UDP.
It runs DIRECTLY over IP. Check the RFC if you don’t believe me.
Dino
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:29 PM, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
>
>
>>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:00 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a base
In the example I gave, I was equating GRE *to* UDP, not saying it ran over UDP,
though it can (port 4754, per RFC 8086).
Joe
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:15 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>
> There is no UDP port number assigned for GRE because it does not run over
> UDP. It runs DIRECTLY over IP. Ch
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