"IETF Approved" IPv6 courses by Charles Alexi

1999-12-09 Thread smd
Hi - This morning I received a telephone call from Jason Cook from an organization called ACM. His organization is attempting to sign people up for an IETF course in IPv6 taught Dr Charles Alexi, who apparently is a senior member of the IETF. Apparently Mr Cook was told that these courses

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Sean Doran
Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > % So, how many /20s are there in IPv6? > > The same as IPv4. Oh, you mean the number of prefixs that > carry the same number of end-node addresses as an IPv4 /20? > That would equate to the number of /116's in IPv6 parlance. So how many /20s or how ma

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Matt Crawford
> And remember, if we ever need to, we can start subnetting the bottom > 64 bits, at the loss of one form of stateless autoconf (which I'm > starting to find, in deployment, is too unpleasant to use on my nets anyway). Ugh. Ick. You're not wrong, of course, but just ... "Yecchh."

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Sean Doran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > % So, how many /20s are there in IPv6? > > > > The same as IPv4. Oh, you mean the number of prefixs that > > carry the same number of end-node addresses as an IPv4 /20? > > That would equate to the number o

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Bill Manning
% Bill Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % % So how many /20s or how many /116s will fit into a routing table? % % Alternatively -- if we take Harald Alvestrand's numbers, % and assume everyone who wants one gets an IPv6 /48, % leaving 16 bits for subnetting before the "flat space" -- % can we

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Christian Huitema
At 03:47 PM 12/9/99 +0100, Sean Doran wrote: >Alternatively -- if we take Harald Alvestrand's numbers, >and assume everyone who wants one gets an IPv6 /48, >leaving 16 bits for subnetting before the "flat space" -- >can we try to quantify the consumption of critical >resources in routers with thi

ISSE 2000 - Call for Papers

1999-12-09 Thread Ulrike Schulte
Following on from the success of ISSE 99 EEMA and TeleTrusT invite you to participate in the call for papers for ISSE 2000. We would very much appreciate if you could pass this information on to interested parties. Please apologise for multiple receipt.

Re: "IETF Approved" IPv6 courses by Charles Alexi

1999-12-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: This morning I received a telephone call from Jason Cook from an organization called ACM. => ICM (something like International Communications for Management) I guess at least some of this is the broken telephone effect from sales person to poten

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Sean Doran
Christian - | Sean, the appropriate answer to your question is RTFM (as in, read the | manual.) The top 48 bits of IPv6 addresses are anything but flat. The flat | space is initially limited to the top 16 bits, 3 of which are used as a | format prefix, leaving a "flat space" table size of 8K entr

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Raw numbers of prefxies are pretty impressive. A IPv4 /20 is 4k "host" addresses. An IPv6 /116 is the same sized "chunk" so, the total number of /20s in the IPv4 world: 1024000 (stuff that into your router) /116s in a /48 chunk:343597383

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Sean Doran wrote: ... > Are you of the belief that > as a matter of policy, everyone but "top level" providers will have > addresses from a "top level" provider, with no exceptions? > > Do you also beleive that for inter-TLA routing information-exchange > purposes, with respect to the destinat

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
> Raw numbers of prefxies are pretty impressive. A IPv4 /20 is 4k "host" > addresses. An IPv6 /116 is the same sized "chunk" so, the total number of > > /20s in the IPv4 world: 1024000 (stuff that into your router) > /116s in a /48 chunk:34359738368 (is that right?) that looked a littl

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bvenkat-chips-on-avians-00.txt

1999-12-09 Thread Robert G. Ferrell
>The connection topology can be non point-to-point for each carrier >and as specified in RFC 1149 [1] can be used without significant >interference with one another, outside of early spring. Carrier species and circannual timing will be critical issues here. For example, while members of th

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Sean Doran
| This is the plan. We start out with no holes in BGP and we try to | keep it that way. Ah, BGP. Ok, so it seems like there is a 1-1 mapping of TLAs to AS numbers -- after all, why would an AS encompass more than one TLA prefix? What happens if and when the 8k limit on TLAs is relaxed, because

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Sean Doran
| so i had a nearby scheme interpreter yay. (now go fix all the buggy scheme and lisp packages in -current :) :) :) ) | It seems obvious to me that the only way routing can scale with | addresses this large is with very aggressive aggregation. It would work better still with abstraction, henc

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Christian Huitema
At 06:08 PM 12/9/99 +0100, Sean Doran wrote: >So, forgive me for asking a stupid question, but RFC 2374 is >full of oddities, especially in s3.2. Are you of the belief that >as a matter of policy, everyone but "top level" providers will have >addresses from a "top level" provider, with no excep

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Ok, so it seems like there is a 1-1 mapping of TLAs to AS numbers -- in reality, with the current ipv6 allocation policy of the registries, all asns are using the same single tla. it's one of those theory and practice things. randy

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Christian Huitema
At 11:51 PM 12/9/99 +0100, Sean Doran wrote: >Even trickier: how to get non-local hosts to use them intelligently. This is definitely a research issue. I think however that there are at least three possible solutions, and so I believe that this is not a very difficult research issue. The first

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Keith Moore
> Let's put it this way: the registries are instructed that only top level > providers should get one of these addresses. Everyone who does not qualify > supposedly get a delegation from a TLA, or several delegations in the case > of multi-homed networks. of course, this requires that sending ho

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Keith Moore
> The second solution is when your DNS resolver has acquired some knowledge > of the Internet, and can sort the address list based on expected > performance. it also assumes that 'performance' is a one-dimensional quantity. Keith

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bvenkat-chips-on-avians-00.txt

1999-12-09 Thread Balaji Venkat
Hi robert, I really loved the critique on this draft. Can I use these comments in the draft for the second version ? Would you be willing to co-author this ? Please let me know. thanks, balaji venkat At 02:19 PM 12/09/1999 -0600, Robert G. Ferrell wrote: >>The connection topology can be non po

Gateways (Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?)

1999-12-09 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
At 09:34 08.12.99 -0800, Ed Gerck wrote: >So, perhaps the same company could also make a NAT that >any homeowner could use? Because if the problem of NATs is >easy of use, and this is the key being banged here (the NY School >Board example, etc.) then it is a problem of design. However, >if th