At 09:34 08.12.99 -0800, Ed Gerck wrote:

>So, perhaps the same company could also make a NAT that
>any homeowner could use?  Because if the problem of NATs is
>easy of use, and this is the key being banged here (the NY  School
>Board example, etc.) then it is a problem of design.  However,
>if the problem is concept, in which way are NATs different
>from gateways, conceptually speaking?  And, gateways are
>useful, no?

I like Einar Stefferud's gateway one-liner:
"All gateways lose information. Some do it more efficiently than others."

Someone once called this one "Alvestrand's equality":
"Gateways = Pain".

This was after too many years spent on email gateways.

                      Harald

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Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
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