Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Edward Gould
I keep it standard to a MOD 3. NO DR issues and its quicker to define the environment. Ed > On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Edward Finnell > <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > My concern is in a mixed CP Environment that you through stuff away. We > kept a defined string

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Edward Finnell
My concern is in a mixed CP Environment that you through stuff away. We kept a defined string of 3380's for VMer's and they we happy. In the SSD can still define 3380 mod2's for CKD. In a message dated 7/7/2016 4:10:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ee...@us.ibm.com writes: I like to (t

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread John Eells
There was no big rush (smile). We're not thinking of volume size related changes in ServerPac that I know about. We are thinking about a larger volume size for the Customized Offerings Driver (COD) system, though, as it's getting tough to keep it on 3390-3 size volumes. I like to (try to) a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:19:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: >What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > >For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" >has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we >chose 3390-27? Apologies for

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/5/2016 6:04 AM, John Eells wrote: Ed Jaffe wrote: We use three sizes only: mod-9, mod-27, and mod-216. The only reason we still maintain mod-9s is because that is the format used by the software sent to us by IBM. Can you elaborate? Is that the volume size for the ADCD or something els

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
n List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > We create as much 3390-54's as possible. > We have some smaller volumes onl

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread John Eells
Ed Jaffe wrote: We use three sizes only: mod-9, mod-27, and mod-216. The only reason we still maintain mod-9s is because that is the format used by the software sent to us by IBM. Can you elaborate? Is that the volume size for the ADCD or something else? (For ServerPac, it might be the defa

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > We create as much 3390-54's a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
We create as much 3390-54's as possible. We have some smaller volumes only because they were converted as is from ESS's. And we have some 3390-3 and 3390-1 for JES checkpoint and catalogs, but with the current GDPS requirement to eliminate all Reserves, I think it would not be a problem to comb

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/28/2016 9:19 AM, John Eells wrote: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? We use three sizes only: mod-9

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-01 Thread David Mingee
: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild The smallest I've seen is a MOD3.  And that is just because it had a CAT on it Steve  -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Al Loeffler

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-30 Thread Bobbie Justice
We still have some mod 9s around, most of ours are mod 27 or 54. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-06-28 o 18:19, John Eells pisze: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? Application data volumes

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Steve Beaver
nimum Volume Sizes in the Wild I use 3390-27 for z/OS and other software installation, but I also use other sizes (3390-1, 3390-3, 3390-9, 3390-54) for operational and user datasets. Al Loeffler -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On B

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Al Loeffler
I use 3390-27 for z/OS and other software installation, but I also use other sizes (3390-1, 3390-3, 3390-9, 3390-54) for operational and user datasets. Al Loeffler -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tues

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
always been fine for application files and Adabas. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Clark Morris > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Size

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:19:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: >What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > >For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" >has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we >chose 3390-27? > I know if yo

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 28 Jun 2016 11:31:30 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main gib...@wsu.edu (Gibney, Dave) wrote: >Mostly Mod-3s, some smaller and mostly special uses. Enough Mod-9 and Mod-27 >to do Serverpac. Given that my netbook has a 320 GB drive, most notebook solid state drives are over 100 GB, the s

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Lester, Bob
DU Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild [ EXTERNAL ] Yep. 100 for JES2 checkpoints. 500+ for catalog volumes. Some mod 3s for ML1 and Mobius datasets due to large number of small datasets. Mod 9s for most volumes. Storage groups are 1TB+ so new space is Mod 27s (due to IPL volumes).

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Mike Schwab
Yep. 100 for JES2 checkpoints. 500+ for catalog volumes. Some mod 3s for ML1 and Mobius datasets due to large number of small datasets. Mod 9s for most volumes. Storage groups are 1TB+ so new space is Mod 27s (due to IPL volumes). z/OS 2.2 installer wants Mod 40s, don't have uncarved space. S

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Porowski, Ken
Primarily -3 and -9, nothing larger, a few smaller @ 503 CYLs > CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential inform

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
Mostly Mod-3s, some smaller and mostly special uses. Enough Mod-9 and Mod-27 to do Serverpac. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subj

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread David Purdy
General use is -9 and -27. -3 are in use but vanishing. No -54 yet. David On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 John Eells wrote: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
Sadly we still have some 3380's defined. Don't gasp... Original Message From: Chuck Kreiter Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild -- This email has reached the Bank via a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Chuck Kreiter
We are actively eliminating mod-3's and mod-9's from our environment. Next DASD refresh will only have 27's and 54's. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LIS

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have 3390 mod3s running around still. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minim

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Custom volumes at 100 cylinders and at 1113 cylinders I would hope your second statement is true, but there are always outliers! :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:19 PM