CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-03 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: zzamboni Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27660#msg-27660 Thank you everyone for the excellent feedback! We really appreciate it. Indeed we have a number of open bugs that stil

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-03 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: lauwersw Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27656#msg-27656 davidlee Wrote: --- > > 3. Easy aside this is still a redundant fe

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-03 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: davidlee Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27651#msg-27651 3. Easy aside this is still a redundant feature. I would prefer to see efforts focused on the large number of open bu

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-03 Thread Bas van der Vlies
On 10/03/2012 09:48 AM, no-re...@cfengine.com wrote: > Forum: CFEngine Help > Subject: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is > released > Author: lauwersw > Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27648#msg-27648 > >

CFEngine Help: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-03 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: lauwersw Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27648#msg-27648 Mikhail Gusarov Wrote: --- > > On comme

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-02 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: neilhwatson Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27629#msg-27629 I'm not opposed to adding new ways of doing things. Indeed I've been a user and fan of Perl for most of my career.

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-02 Thread Jonathan Clarke
On 01/10/12 22:24, no-re...@cfengine.com wrote: > The code is shorter, its intention is clearer, and we don't have to invent so > many unnecessary class names. Of course, you can still explicitly use classes > as a signaling mechanism, this is just a shortcut. Great explanation Diego - this make

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-02 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:02 AM, wrote: > On comments vs handles thing -- I dont think comments show up in the output > of verbose execution, which is why I use handles to document my policies. > This way, when I run a policy in verbose, I can see exactly what is going on > and where. Pleas

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread Marco Marongiu
Hi all The discussion is turning out interesting. If anything, I am happy I helped spicing it up ;) On 01/10/12 23:07, no-re...@cfengine.com wrote: > Author: Authority > Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27612#msg-27612 I always respect the authority, but that doesn't s

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: neilhwatson Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27623#msg-27623 If handles now become important how will they work with variable handles? See here for a an example and the curren

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: msvob...@linkedin.com Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27616#msg-27616 On comments vs handles thing -- I dont think comments show up in the output of verbose execution, which i

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: zzamboni Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27615#msg-27615 Mike, There is one case in which things may break with this change, but we believe this will be minimal: if anyone wa

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: msvob...@linkedin.com Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27614#msg-27614 FWIW, I'm all for sexy new features / functionality as long as it doesn't break backwards compatibility.

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: zzamboni Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27613#msg-27613 Neil, Marco, The active depends_on is essentially a shortcut for doing things with classes - internally that's how it

CFEngine Help: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: Authority Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27612#msg-27612 So your complaint is that it's like Puppet? That's pretty weak. I've never u

CFEngine Help: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: neilhwatson Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27611#msg-27611 Marco Marongiu Wrote: --- > When t

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread Nick Anderson
Marco Marongiu wrote: >> Where did this come from? We already handle this using classes. Why >> add another method to muddy the waters? Changing a feature's main >> purpose from documentation to functional leaves me dumbfounded. >[...] >> We can already reorder promises using classes. What pur

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread Marco Marongiu
> Where did this come from? We already handle this using classes. Why > add another method to muddy the waters? Changing a feature's main > purpose from documentation to functional leaves me dumbfounded. [...] > We can already reorder promises using classes. What purpose is > served by adding an

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: neilhwatson Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27607#msg-27607 "This option is only used only for documentation currently. In commercial versions of CFEngine, using this attribut

Re: CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread Jesse Becker
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 12:46:26PM -0400, no-re...@cfengine.com wrote: >Forum: CFEngine Help >Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released >Author: neilhwatson >Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27605#msg-27605 > >Mikhail Gusarov Wrote: >---

CFEngine Help: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released

2012-10-01 Thread no-reply
Forum: CFEngine Help Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] CFEngine Community 3.4.0beta2 is released Author: neilhwatson Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,27604,27605#msg-27605 Mikhail Gusarov Wrote: --- > > - The "depends_on" attribute is