Ok,
it was my local copy of contrib/hbbmcdx which was corrupted. :)
Maurilio.
Maurilio Longo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> trying to update my local copy with smartSVN I get this error:
>
> This client is too old to work with working copy:
> E:\repository\harbour\contrib\hbbmcdx\
>
> But it was able to up
Revision: 10441
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 09:42:17 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-24 10:41 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* bin/postinst.cmd
* bin/
>From visual Studio 2008 point of view you need:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional and Standard Software Development Kits Refresh
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=06111a3a-a651-4745-88ef-3d48091a390b&displaylang=en
Other tool will be
sql server compact edition
http://www.micro
Revision: 10442
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 09:47:57 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-24 10:42 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* bin/postinst.bat
+ Ad
Hi Jose,
2008 Professional and above versions provide PPC support.
Brgds,
Viktor
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:32 AM, José Luis Capel wrote:
> Massimo,
>
> Do you know if Visual C++ Studio Express 2008 will compile for PPC ?
>
> Regards,
> José Luis Capel
>
> 2009/2/18 Massimo Belgrano
>
> If you
Massimo Belgrano pisze:
> thanks now works!
> cd $home
> some of my problem will be due to my src directory that is locked (i
> not able jet to delete so i have changed dir)
Please send output of:
ls -la _path_to_src_directory
We wiil see, what is wrong with your src...
Adam
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Hi Renato,
Could you add these two pages to our homepage,
with redirections to current equivalents:
- http://www.harbour-project.org/download.htm
-> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=681
- http://www.harbour-project.org/mailinglist.htm
-> http://www.harbour-project.org/
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 10:26:25 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-24 11:26 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
+ INSTALL
+ Installatio
Revision: 10444
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 10:38:06 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-24 11:37 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* utils/hbmk2/hbmk2.prg
Hi,
How to compile harbour under windows using gcc ?
(i don't want to use non free / non open source compiler)
I already try with cygwin without success.
Guy
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c:\harbour\mw.bat
echo --harbour---
rem 1) You need to have MinGW 'make.exe' in your path first.
rem 2) Run from the Harbour source root dir.
SET 3) add your
Thanks for your support
Here my redirection
vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ cd $home
vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ ls -la src
total 6296
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root4096 2009-02-22 12:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 34 vmplanet vmplanet4096 2009-02-25 03:19 ..
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root4096 2009-02-23 12:49 har
Hi, Guy
El 2009/2/25 Guy Roussin escribió:
> How to compile harbour under windows using gcc ?
> (i don't want to use non free / non open source compiler)
>
> I already try with cygwin without success.
>
> Guy
Check out MSYS/MinGW:
http://www.mingw.org/
Here are some instructions on how to set
Hi Guy,
I'm trying figure some easy to follow instructions here,
the odd thing currently is that we have 3 (!) ways to
build/install Harbour using MinGW, and this doesn't make
it easy to understand as usually the details of the three
methods are mixed together when users make and attempt.
The best
Partly done. Added 2 new pages to make the redirect in this first
time. But then I rename the pages to get better since it requires
changing all the menu pages of the site and making reference to these
links.
Vailton Renato
2009/2/25 Viktor Szakáts :
> Hi Renato,
> Could you add these two pages
Thanks a lot Renato, everything is working perfectly now.
Brgds,
Viktor
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Vailton Renato wrote:
> Partly done. Added 2 new pages to make the redirect in this first
> time. But then I rename the pages to get better since it requires
> changing all the menu pages of
>xHarbour does not enable DLMALLOC with the same conditions as
>Harbour and it's the reason of difference. I guess you are using
>__EXPORT__ macro which effectively disables DLMALLOC in xHarbour.
>
>BTW if you can test the above code with BCC6.1 to confirm the results
>then it will really help.
>-Original Message-
>From: Horodyski Marek (PZUZ)
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:54 AM
>To: 'Harbour Project Main Developer List.'
>Subject: RE: Raport from build
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Horodyski Marek (PZUZ)
>>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:20 PM
>>To: 'Harbour Pr
Revision: 10445
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 12:36:45 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
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2009-02-24 13:36 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* INSTALL
+ Added MinGW
Revision: 10446
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Author: marchuet
Date: 2009-02-25 12:57:00 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-25 13:54 UTC+0100 Miguel Angel Marchuet
* contrib/hbbmcdx/bmdbfcdx.c
! updated
Hi Massimo,
Sorry, you misunderstood the concept, let me clarify:
-DHBMK_INTEGRATED_COMPILER is a switch
to be used when _building hbmk2 itself_.
So in essence, to try it, you'll need to use this
envvar when building Harbour:
set HB_USER_PRGFLAGS=-DHBMK_INTEGRATED_COMPILER
If you have built hbmk2
Revision: 10447
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 13:37:13 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 14:36 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* bin/postinst.sh
! Fix
Revision: 10448
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 14:22:40 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 15:22 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* INSTALL
! Typo in pre
Massimo Belgrano a écrit :
Thanks for your support
Here my redirection
vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ cd $home
vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ ls -la src
total 6296
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root4096 2009-02-22 12:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 34 vmplanet vmplanet4096 2009-02-25 03:19 ..
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root
Revision: 10449
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 14:24:54 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 15:25 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* config/win/msvcce.cf
Hi Miguel,
---
gcc -I. -I../../../../include -Wall -W -O3 -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -c
../../bmdbfcdx.c -obmdbfcdx.o
../../bmdbfcdx.c: In function 'hb_cdxOrderCreate':
../../bmdbfcdx.c:8148: error: 'CDXAREA' has no member named 'fTemporary'
---
Brgds,
Viktor
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM,
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM, wrote:
> * bin/postinst.sh
> + Added generation of hbcc.bat, hbcmp.bat, hblnk.bat
> to be in complete feature sync with the non-msys method.
> NOTE: non-msys method isn't recommended.
It was my impression that hbmk2.exe was created to eliminate bat
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Thanks!
After "$ sudo chown -R vmplanet.vmplanet src", All works fine
Wich is best way for learn about linux?
2009/2/25 Guy Roussin :
> Massimo Belgrano a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks for your support
>> Here my redirection
>> vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ cd $home
>>
>> vmpla...@ubuntu-vm:~$ ls -la src
>> total
First make have batch in each dir
Now is only a wrapper for user who store more name in memory
2009/2/25 Lorenzo Fiorini :
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM, wrote:
>
>> * bin/postinst.sh
>> + Added generation of hbcc.bat, hbcmp.bat, hblnk.bat
>> to be in complete feature sync with the
Revision: 10450
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Author: marchuet
Date: 2009-02-25 15:22:40 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-25 16:27 UTC+0100 Miguel Angel Marchuet
* contrib/hbbmcdx/hbbmcdx.h
! updated
>
> 2009/2/25 Lorenzo Fiorini :
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM,
> wrote:
> >
> >> * bin/postinst.sh
> >>+ Added generation of hbcc.bat, hbcmp.bat, hblnk.bat
> >> to be in complete feature sync with the non-msys method.
> >> NOTE: non-msys method isn't recommended.
> >
> > It w
To continue:
I like this dir to look like this (on all platforms ideally, of course with
applying extensions):
---
hbmk.cfg
harbour.dll
harbourmt.dll
harbour.exe
hbdoc.exe
hbi18n.exe
hbmk.exe
hbpp.exe
hbrun.exe
hbtest.exe
---
I'd like to get agreement on this from the list, because I'm
willing to
Hi all,
hbwhat was a notorious build-breaker since it has been
added, and despite the efforts trying to fix it, it still is.
Since it has no real users either, we miss feedback
and besides making it build, we cannot be sure it even
works. Since there were several bugs found in it, and
no one fixed
Viktor
I get this error on BCC55
bcc32.exe -c -q -d -Q -w -w-sig- -4 -O2 -OS -Ov -Oi -Oc -I..\..\include
-I..\hbwin -oobj\b32\wvgwin.obj .\wvgwin.c
.\wvgwin.c:
Error E2451 .\wvgwin.c 1599: Undefined symbol 'item' in function
HB_FUN_WVG_TREEVIEW_ADDITEM
Error E2451 .\wvgwin.c 1600: Unde
.mem files saved with Foxpro ( DOS) can't be restored with Harbour. (with
Clipper it could).
the reason is Foxpro does not add 128 to the Type byte.
can __MVRESTORE be changed so it will resore them.
Thanks.
Abe
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Massimo Belgrano pisze:
> Thanks!
> After "$ sudo chown -R vmplanet.vmplanet src", All works fine
> Wich is best way for learn about linux?
Unfortunatly the same as for learn about harbour ;-)
Use it, use it, use it ... every day.
I'm using openSUSE, and want to say, that suse is better than *bunt
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Viktor Szakáts wrote:
> I'd like to get agreement on this from the list, because I'm
> willing to do it but unless the group can agree to do it I wouldn't
> want to force this.
> ...
> - harbour.cfg + Harbour -go option: hbmk2 is here as a better solution.
> - hb*
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, AbeB wrote:
Hi,
> .mem files saved with Foxpro ( DOS) can't be restored with Harbour. (with
> Clipper it could).
> the reason is Foxpro does not add 128 to the Type byte.
> can __MVRESTORE be changed so it will resore them.
I'll do that but please send small example of FoxP
Revision: 10451
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Author: vouchcac
Date: 2009-02-25 17:26:52 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 09:25 UTC-0800 Pritpal Bedi (prit...@vouchcac.com)
* harbour/contrib/gtwvg/wvgpa
What about maintain hbwhat only for win32 platform?
will takes few efforts to maintain it?
2009/2/25 Viktor Szakáts :
> Hi all,
> hbwhat was a notorious build-breaker since it has been
> added, and despite the efforts trying to fix it, it still is.
> Since it has no real users either, we miss fe
Hi,
Wich is best way for learn about linux?
I'm not a ubuntu user but i found this :
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid
Seems fine to install ubuntu ...
but i think you can read also debian reference
http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals.en.html
(debian is very similar to ubuntu) a
>
> > - gcc specific hbmk script: hbmk2 is meant to replace it.
> > - rename hbmk2 to hbmk.
> > I'd like to hear opinions.
>
> I agree that hbmk2 is a step in the right direction, but I don't think
> we should remove hb* scripts in 1.1 ( I use only *nix envs +
> msys/mingw I can't say much for Win
Hi Pritpal,
After looking at it, I have no idea how to fix that for BCC,
maybe something obvious but I just can't see it.
My fix targeted an error in Open Watcom BTW.
I can restore previous state if you want.
Brgds,
Viktor
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Massimo Belgrano wrote:
> What about maintain hbwhat only for win32 platform?
> will takes few efforts to maintain it?
It took a huge effort from my side, with _no_ benefit,
and I mean not just no benefit for me, because I don't
need it at all, but no benefit fo
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote:
Hi,
> To continue:
> I like this dir to look like this (on all platforms ideally, of course with
> applying extensions):
> ---
> hbmk.cfg
> harbour.dll
> harbourmt.dll
> harbour.exe
> hbdoc.exe
> hbi18n.exe
> hbmk.exe
> hbpp.exe
> hbrun.exe
> hbtest.exe
Hi Viktor
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
>
> After looking at it, I have no idea how to fix that for BCC,
> maybe something obvious but I just can't see it.
>
> My fix targeted an error in Open Watcom BTW.
>
> I can restore previous state if you want.
>
Yes please.
Now I remember how much I struggl
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Viktor Szakáts wrote:
> We're here talking about the make and build systems.
> Which doesn't have much to do with 3rd parties, after all everyone can
> download the binary release pre-built and don't care about it.
> As for hbmk, it's just one tool, and hbmk2 is e
Ok for me
I suggest think now which other library are in same situation
so not wasting time for in future abandon
2009/2/25 Viktor Szakáts :
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Massimo Belgrano
> wrote:
>>
>> What about maintain hbwhat only for win32 platform?
>> will takes few efforts to mainta
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote:
Hi,
> hbwhat was a notorious build-breaker since it has been
> added, and despite the efforts trying to fix it, it still is.
[...]
> So, I'd like to propose to remove it from the repository.
> Any objections or opinions on that?
I'd suggest to disable t
Hi Viktor,
Il 25/02/2009 17.04, Viktor Szakáts ha scritto:
Hi all,
hbwhat was a notorious build-breaker since it has been
added, and despite the efforts trying to fix it, it still is.
Since it has no real users either, we miss feedback
and besides making it build, we cannot be sure it even
Revision: 10452
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Author: druzus
Date: 2009-02-25 19:12:35 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 20:17 UTC+0100 Przemyslaw Czerpak (druzus/at/priv.onet.pl)
* harbour/contrib/gtwvg
ok i uploaded a file.
I took out the NIL part, foxpro does not have NILs
Thanks
Abe
Przemyslaw Czerpak wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, AbeB wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> .mem files saved with Foxpro ( DOS) can't be restored with Harbour.
>> (with
>> Clipper it could).
>> the reason is Foxpro does not
Revision: 10453
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Author: druzus
Date: 2009-02-25 20:03:05 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
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2009-02-25 21:08 UTC+0100 Przemyslaw Czerpak (druzus/at/priv.onet.pl)
* harbour/source/vm/mem
Viktor
Here I endorse Francesco's observation.
What32 has always been an inspiration to me, and
probably for some others also. Whatever I could do
till date on Windows platform is due to What32 only.
It is always a source of references whenever I need
one.
So I strongly resist that it should
Hello Francesco
Francesco Saverio Giudice wrote:
>
> BTW I'm locked on structure handling. Without a solution on it or
> without a standardization on passing values it will be a stopping point
> in hbwin developing.
> I have tried Przemek's proposal, but it's very difficult to handling
> par
Hi friends,
I'm getting error building SVN with MSVC.
Starting errors are:
cl.exe -c -Zi -DHB_TR_LEVEL_DEBUG -nologo -W4 -wd4127 -Gs -Iinclude
-Ot2b1 -EHs-c- -DHB_LEGACY_OFF -DHB_FM_STATISTICS_OFF -Iobj\vc
-Foobj\vc\ source\vm\mainwin.c
mainwin.c
J:\cvs\harbourSVN_trunk\include\hbapi.h(921)
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Pritpal Bedi wrote:
Hi Pritpal,
> Przemek, Mindaugus can surely come up with same solution but
> with better internal overhaul of the concept so that the potential
> "dangers" discussed can be reduced to bare minimum.
I'm not against the idea of creating some .prg level cod
Hi Przemek,
Il 25/02/2009 22.33, Przemyslaw Czerpak ha scritto:
if someone is interested then I can add to HVM support for
sending messages to pointer items. At least on C level.
if you find spare time to add it will be useful.
TIA
Best regards,
Francesco
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I have recompiled Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition without error
call "%ProgramFiles%\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\vcvarsall.bat" x86
set path=c:\devl\mingw32make;%path%
set HB_ARCHITECTURE=win
set HB_COMPILER=msvc
set HB_INSTALL_PREFIX=%~dp0
set HB_BIN_INSTALL=%HB_INSTALL_PREFIX%\bin
set
Thanks for the feedback to all.
It seem we agree on disabling it now, and keeping it
for reference, and also to encourage 3rd parties to give
feedback on whether they use it or not. AFAIK no "major"
3rd party needs it, but let's hear them words.
Notice however that if we keep it in repository, it
What do you think about hbdoc?
Other old module in black list?
2009/2/25 Viktor Szakáts :
> Thanks for the feedback to all.
> It seem we agree on disabling it now, and keeping it
> for reference, and also to encourage 3rd parties to give
> feedback on whether they use it or not. AFAIK no "major"
>
Hi Pritpal,
I've found a solution which works on all compilers.
(it needs NONAMELESSUNION, for BCC definitely)
Brgds,
Viktor
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Pritpal Bedi wrote:
>
> Hi Viktor
>
>
> Viktor Szakáts wrote:
> >
> > After looking at it, I have no idea how to fix that for BCC,
> > may
Hi Pritpal and all,
Open Watcom 1.8 final version:
../../wapi_winuser.c(85): Error! E006: col(19) syntax error; probable cause:
missing ';'
../../wapi_winuser.c(88): Error! E029: col(13) symbol 'sbi' has not been
declared
../../wapi_winuser.c(88): Error! E029: col(29) symbol 'SCROLLBARINFO' has
n
My opinion is the same as last year. hbdoc and
also the docs we have in their current format is a
dead end. It's not the goal of this project to develop
a documentation tool, so ideally we should choose
an existing tool, convert what we have, and delete
hbdoc.
This needs a one time effort and cont
Hi
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
>
> ../../wapi_winuser.c(85): Error! E006: col(19) syntax error; probable
> cause:
> missing ';'
> ../../wapi_winuser.c(88): Error! E029: col(13) symbol 'sbi' has not been
> declared
> ../../wapi_winuser.c(88): Error! E029: col(29) symbol 'SCROLLBARINFO' has
> not been
Hi Pritpal,
Can you please do it?
IMO we should protect all these kinds of version dependent
stuff with #if _WIN32_WINNT >= / #endif protection and
use as much of the functionality as the underlying headers
allow, unfortunately not all compilers have the latest headers
and with some of them y
Hi Viktor,
I'm trying to build tests in harbour\tests\mt with hbmk2 but I cannot
see console output.
J:\cvs\harbourSVN\tests\mt>..\..\bin\hbmk2.exe -trace -mt -std -gtwin
mttest01
hbmk: Harbour compiler command:
..\..\bin\harbour.exe mttest01 -i..\..\include;..\..\include
Harbour 1.1.0dev (Re
Hi Przemek,
> > ---
>
> With the exception to hbmk.cfg which cannot be stored in binary
> directory in system wide installation due to distribution policy
> in most of *nixes so in *nix builds hbmk should look for this file
> in:
>
> /../etc/harbour
> /../etc // "/harbour/" is pa
Revision: 10454
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Author: vszakats
Date: 2009-02-25 22:45:12 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-25 23:44 UTC+0100 Viktor Szakats (harbour.01 syenar hu)
* bin/postinst.cmd
* bin/
Revision: 10455
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Author: vouchcac
Date: 2009-02-25 23:36:00 + (Wed, 25 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-25 15:35 UTC-0800 Pritpal Bedi (prit...@vouchcac.com)
* harbour/contrib/hbwin/wapi_
Hi Lorenzo,
> > We're here talking about the make and build systems.
> > Which doesn't have much to do with 3rd parties, after all everyone can
> > download the binary release pre-built and don't care about it.
> > As for hbmk, it's just one tool, and hbmk2 is even compatible.
>
> Sorry, I don't
Hi Francesco,
You've been tricked by the '-n' issue. Just add -n to your
command line.
This will be a FAQ if we don't do something about it :( Sooo
easy to miss, and we need it for every programs
Brgds,
Viktor
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Francesco Saverio Giudice <
i...@fsgiudice.com>
Revision: 10456
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Author: vouchcac
Date: 2009-02-26 03:01:10 + (Thu, 26 Feb 2009)
Log Message:
---
2009-02-25 18:57 UTC-0800 Pritpal Bedi (prit...@vouchcac.com)
* harbour/contrib/gtwvg/gtwvg
Hi,
After updating from svn I got these errors:
../../hbproces.c(245) : error C2065: 'STARTF_USESTDHANDLES' : undeclared
identifier
../../hbproces.c(245) : error C2065: 'STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW' : undeclared
identifier
These are my sets:
rem ; Harbour compile config (for GNU make)
set HB_ARCHITE
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Viktor Szakáts
> Probably those hb* aliases will stay (for a while), with content
> converted to wrappers to hbmk2. This is the least concern
> of the whole bunch IMO, it's three files.
Ok, but before change them we need to test hbmk2 in a public release.
> That
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