Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > For me WP should be only a place where to say that Harbour exist and what it is while the "details and comparisons" should be elsewhere. > > I disagree although the article need be cleaned up. I bring a lot things from Clipper and xHarbour article to be polished. It's a matter of balance and

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Good thoughts. Brgds, Viktor On 2010 Apr 10, at 21:40, Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Antonio Maniero wrote: > >> Some rules I've learned: >> ... >> []'s Maniero > > Excuse my jump in and feel free to ignore everything. > > For me WP should be only a place where to

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Antonio Maniero wrote: > Some rules I've learned: > ... > []'s Maniero Excuse my jump in and feel free to ignore everything. For me WP should be only a place where to say that Harbour exist and what it is while the "details and comparisons" should be elsewhere.

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > We should try. We have nothing to hide and we're > not lying, so I believe all we need to do is put > convincing sources behind our statements. I totally agree. > F.e. the > guy deleted the word "fast". Now, we have lots and > lots of speed comparisons with Clipper, Xbase++ and > xhb, so

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Antonio, > Some rules I've learned: > Mailing list can't be used as reliable source :-( We should try. We have nothing to hide and we're not lying, so I believe all we need to do is put convincing sources behind our statements. F.e. the guy deleted the word "fast". Now, we have lots and lo

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Antonio Maniero
Some rules I've learned: Mailing list can't be used as reliable source :-( Non-english sources too WP has so many rules, some of them are ambiguous and contradictory. It's party to an "wikipedia's attorney" shows and make trouble where everything walks ok. You missed my discussion about newsgroup

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-10 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Well, we will have to play ball, WP has many rules and it serves the whole thing pretty well, so either we should talk with the guy and/or streamline the article to adhere with the requirements. Reliable 3rd party references were missing, so I've added some hard statistics (now also an ohloh p

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Antonio Maniero
It's a shame but this edit will be deleted soon by Yworo wikipedia's user. he is a experient user and know all wp "laws". I was finding for mailing list statistics ;-) Thanks []'s Maniero 2010/4/9 Viktor Szakáts > > i propose add c:\harbour\doc\xhp-dif.txt to wikipedia page > > I've added it

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Antonio Maniero
Thanks. I will try Linux soon. This weekend I will try build Harbour64 on my Windows and I will try Qt as static. I think all my big problems will be build Harbour with external dependencies. Really external, not the dependencies on /external folder in SVN, these are ok. And thanks to Viktor to upd

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Antonio Maniero
I am waiting my wikipedian stalker give up to continue my edits :-) But, yes, your blog will be my target :-) Today I will edit pt version with console/GUI drivers. I will use your blog as reference. Today I asked Vailtom to allow me edit harbour-project.com.br in some way he thinks ok. I can hel

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Antonio Maniero
Well, I don't say "professional, but it is better now. I am improving http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projeto_Harbour now I am having problems with a Wikipedian Prick on english version. He stating about deleting Harbour article. When the article was weak, ugly and incomplete, nobody shows to critici

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> i propose add c:\harbour\doc\xhp-dif.txt to wikipedia page I've added it a few hours ago. Brgds, Viktor ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-project.org/mailman/listinfo/harbour

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Teo Fonrouge
On Apr 6, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Antonio Maniero wrote: > Hello everybody > [ snip] > Thanks to everyone efforts. Harbour community need to be more active to > "sell" Harbour on the web. IMHO most xBase programmer is individualist too > much, including. I hope change this. > > Feel free to writ

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Bruno Luciani
Excellent Work in Wikipedia Antonio If you need some help in linux , i am UBUNTU user actually , but I have experience from 1997 using some distributions starting from Red Hat 5.0 Regard's Bruno 2010/4/8 Antonio Maniero > Hi Marco > > At the momento I will just play with Harbour on Linux. Pro

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Massimo Belgrano
i propose add c:\harbour\doc\xhp-dif.txt to wikipedia page if you need any info you can copy[less] from my unprofessional blog I am not a professional writer. So this blogger certainly is not as slick and clean as something you would find in a professional website or magazine. This is just my expe

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Antonio, Thank you very much for your kind introduction e-mail, and very much so for the update work you've done on Harbour's wikipedia entry, I've just checked it, it's very good job. It finally looks professional. You're welcome in the team. Brgds, Viktor On 2010 Apr 6, at 17:08, Antoni

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-09 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Very compliment! now harbour have very good page! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbour_(software) As 2010 Harbour development is keeping vibrant activity. and you are part of this vibrant activity -- Massimo Belgrano ___ Harbour mailing list (attach

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-08 Thread Antonio Maniero
Hi Marco At the momento I will just play with Harbour on Linux. Probably I will try on CentOS. When I have a problem, I post here. For now I need solve some problems on Windows yet. I have difficulties with dependencies. I need learn about hbp, hbc and hbm formats. It's just my opinion, but seems

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-07 Thread marco bra
Hi Antonio which Linux distribution have you installed... or you are about to install...? I follow the Harbour project for many years using Linux (RedHat, Fedora then Ubuntu) i'm ready to help you. I think the right place is the harbour user list not this list... Hth Best regards Marco _

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-07 Thread Qatan
non Slavic speakers. I hope it helps you a bit. Regards, Qatan - Original Message - From: Antonio Maniero To: harbour@harbour-project.org Sent: Tuesday, 6 de April de 2010 12:08 Subject: [Harbour] Introducing myself Hello everyb

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-07 Thread Antonio Maniero
c > speakers. > > I hope it helps you a bit. > > Regards, > > > Qatan > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Antonio Maniero > *To:* harbour@harbour-project.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, 6 de April de 2010 12:08 > *Subject:* [Harbour] Introduci

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-06 Thread Qatan
8 Subject: [Harbour] Introducing myself Hello everybody First of all I really sorry by my bad and poor English. I made my best. I am a software developer for 26 years working with several programming languages mostly building Line Of Business applications in Brazil. I worked with

Re: [Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-06 Thread Massimo Belgrano
i agree documentation, is the biggest Harbour need, so i want invite anybody to contribute,the steep are very easy using hbide. H*ow read harbour documentation with hbide* 1 Point to option on and click on 2 A right-side "Document Viewer" window will appear. 3 Provide Harbour's installation

[Harbour] Introducing myself

2010-04-06 Thread Antonio Maniero
Hello everybody First of all I really sorry by my bad and poor English. I made my best. I am a software developer for 26 years working with several programming languages mostly building Line Of Business applications in Brazil. I worked with Clipper since Clipper exists. I used the first copy sol