Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-03 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 05:19:45AM +1000, Brendan Tildesley wrote: > On 2016-09-04 02:55, David Craven wrote: > >> Today was pretty much an E-mail overload on the ML. In itself amazing :) > > I agree. If you aren't a full time guix developer it's hard to keep > > up. The only way I can keep up is b

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-03 Thread David Craven
> I was going to post a patch over several files removing redundant > mkdir-p expressions, > but decided against it! If you run something like `ack '\(install-file' > -B 7| ack 'mkdir-p' -A 7' > You can see them, since install-file already contains a mkdir-p. I think this is going a little off

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-03 Thread Brendan Tildesley
On 2016-09-04 02:55, David Craven wrote: >> Today was pretty much an E-mail overload on the ML. In itself amazing :) > I agree. If you aren't a full time guix developer it's hard to keep > up. The only way I can keep up is by marking the emails I'm not > interested in quickly as read =P Just readin

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-03 Thread David Craven
> Today was pretty much an E-mail overload on the ML. In itself amazing :) I agree. If you aren't a full time guix developer it's hard to keep up. The only way I can keep up is by marking the emails I'm not interested in quickly as read =P Just reading all emails is a time commitment in itself...

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-03 Thread Pjotr Prins
Today was pretty much an E-mail overload on the ML. In itself amazing :) Pj. On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 06:54:47PM +0800, Alex Vong wrote: > ng0 writes: > > > Alex Vong writes: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> I think I share the same concern as you do, currently the mailing list > >> is too crowded a

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-02 Thread Alex Vong
ng0 writes: > Alex Vong writes: > >> Hi, >> >> >> I think I share the same concern as you do, currently the mailing list >> is too crowded and it is difficult to find the relevant bit. Below are >> my opinions on it: >> >> >> While it may not be as user-friendly as web-based bug tracker these >>

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-02 Thread ng0
Alex Vong writes: > Hi, > > > I think I share the same concern as you do, currently the mailing list > is too crowded and it is difficult to find the relevant bit. Below are > my opinions on it: > > > While it may not be as user-friendly as web-based bug tracker these > days, I think the Debian b

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-01 Thread Alex Vong
Hi, I think I share the same concern as you do, currently the mailing list is too crowded and it is difficult to find the relevant bit. Below are my opinions on it: While it may not be as user-friendly as web-based bug tracker these days, I think the Debian bug tracking system is still better t

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-01 Thread ng0
John Darrington writes: > [ Unknown signature status ] > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:19:00AM +, ng0 wrote: > > I begin to suspect that what I want has not been written, like in > several other cases I ran into in the last years. What I meant here, and before that, will get too offt

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-01 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:19:00AM +, ng0 wrote: I begin to suspect that what I want has not been written, like in several other cases I ran into in the last years. I suspect it is more a case of not being able to agree on one. I have found, in the past, that aegis is a great

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-09-01 Thread ng0
ng0 writes: > it seems that gitlab can not be used because we require enterprise: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg02152.html > > I keep searching and trying out systems, but it almost seems like to > meet a consent where everyone gets what they want, it needs to be > wr

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-31 Thread ng0
Hartmut Goebel writes: > [ Unknown signature status ] > Am 16.08.2016 um 16:06 schrieb Alex Vong: >> Hartmut Goebel writes: >> >>> The gogs.io website is using a lot of external content, namely from >>> google and jquery. The FAQ is hosted a another external side, discus. >>> Gogs is not even se

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-18 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 16.08.2016 um 16:06 schrieb Alex Vong: > Hartmut Goebel writes: > >> The gogs.io website is using a lot of external content, namely from >> google and jquery. The FAQ is hosted a another external side, discus. >> Gogs is not even self-hosting gogs but hosted at github. gogs.io does >> not even

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread Alex Vong
Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 15.08.2016 um 17:18 schrieb Alex Vong: > > Of course, there are other alternatives, such as gogs, > > The gogs.io website is using a lot of external content, namely from > google and jquery. The FAQ is hosted a another external side, discus. > Gogs is not even self

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 03:17:11PM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > I don’t think that “resistance” is a fair description of the discussion > around that feature. The result was an actual proposal that could be > implemented. Yeah, not accurate is my bad. Pros and cons were mentioned. I'll find som

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
David Craven writes: >> I still like the idea of distributed source repos. You may also have >> noticed there was resistance to that idea. > > I thought that the resistance was towards stabilizing an internal api, > which I'm also against. But I'll have to reread the thread more > carefully if y

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread David Craven
> I don't like gitlab's UI as much as github's, but I can't constructively > point the finger at what it is. But I'll get used to it just as I got used > to sending patches via email... ;-) I think that most of us have already learnt the current system. The main point I think is decreasing entry b

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread David Craven
> Am 15.08.2016 um 17:18 schrieb Alex Vong: >> Of course, there are other alternatives, such as gogs, > > The gogs.io website is using a lot of external content, namely from > google and jquery. The FAQ is hosted a another external side, discus. I don't understand how it's relevant that gogs.io ma

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-16 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 15.08.2016 um 17:18 schrieb Alex Vong: > Of course, there are other alternatives, such as gogs, The gogs.io website is using a lot of external content, namely from google and jquery. The FAQ is hosted a another external side, discus. Gogs is not even self-hosting gogs but hosted at github. gogs

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-15 Thread Alex Vong
Hi guixers, Actually, We have GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations , which was published recently (about 1 yr ago). Below is my understanding of the evaluations: The essence of the criteria

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-15 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:53:49 +0200 Hartmut Goebel wrote: > A good alternative could be to use gitlab, which one could host on one's > own systems. It is "only" MIT licensed, but at least "open source" - in > contrast to github, which is propritary. I second the gitlab recommendation. I have mult

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-15 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 13.08.2016 um 12:46 schrieb David Craven: > I think a few people have said they like github, but it gets objected to > because of certain reasons and I do not want to start a discussion on > those. A good alternative could be to use gitlab, which one could host on one's own systems. It is "only

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-15 Thread David Craven
> I still like the idea of distributed source repos. You may also have > noticed there was resistance to that idea. I thought that the resistance was towards stabilizing an internal api, which I'm also against. But I'll have to reread the thread more carefully if you see things differently. I thin

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-14 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 03:39:27AM +0200, David Craven wrote: > I thought you where going to do some awesome work on adding and > finding 3rd party guix repos? ;-) > > Things that I need before using guixsd on my laptop is firmware, atom > and chrome or chromium. But as I understand it chromium is

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-14 Thread David Craven
> I am not contributing my work as it stands. I thought you where going to do some awesome work on adding and finding 3rd party guix repos? ;-) Things that I need before using guixsd on my laptop is firmware, atom and chrome or chromium. But as I understand it chromium isn't going to be accepted

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-14 Thread ng0
Hi, Pjotr Prins writes: > I hope this will be a topic in Rennes though I won't be there. I won't be there as well, it's currently too expensive for me. > Savannah is nice but limited in scope (and notably does not provide > 100% uptime). > > The E-mail patch system is archaic and is certainly

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-13 Thread Pjotr Prins
I hope this will be a topic in Rennes though I won't be there. Savannah is nice but limited in scope (and notably does not provide 100% uptime). The E-mail patch system is archaic and is certainly noisy. I think we should have an additional system that is more friendly. I use github a lot to col

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-13 Thread ng0
David Craven writes: >> All: Please share your experiences, positive and negative, with project >> management frameworks. Ideally it covers patches, discussions, >> bugtracking and is accessible and usable at least via web browser. > > I think a few people have said they like github, but it gets

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-13 Thread David Craven
> The only thing I don't like about github/gogs from an UI perspective is the > merge button. The merge button creates unnecessary merge commits > which I don't like, and many projects agree to not use the merge button. > There is no way to disable it, but I think that disabling it in gogs would be

Re: Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-13 Thread David Craven
> All: Please share your experiences, positive and negative, with project > management frameworks. Ideally it covers patches, discussions, > bugtracking and is accessible and usable at least via web browser. I think a few people have said they like github, but it gets objected to because of certai

Feedback, ideas, discussion: tracking patches, discussions, bugs.

2016-08-13 Thread ng0
At some point I wanted to reply to the "Subject: none" thread Pjotr opened. It kept growing and growing, and hit the length where I don't feel like I want to add to it. After many years I switched to notmuch for emails, because it all just sucks. And even with notmuch, it just sucks: I apply tags t