Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 4:14:53 PM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > One more thing — remember that probabilities are > tricksy things. They vary wildly depending on how one > looks at the problem. A lot of statistical analysis throws u

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

John Clizbe wrote: > Does look interesting. Anyone have and willing to share an invite? > > Reply off-list please. > Invite received. Thanks to those who offered. -J -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Gingerbear DAWT net SKS/Enigmail/PGP-EKP or: John ( @ )

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

> Aside from only demonstrating possible earlier intent rather later > actions, the fraction of comments of "I'll kill you" that actually convert to > murders is vanishingly small. If I were a juror, this evidence would > tell me nothing about guilt or otherwise. One more thing — remember that pro

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Keybase (https://keybase.io) is trying to solve the Web of Trust problem > in a new way. They're currently in beta, but I was able to snag an > invitation. (I have no invites to give out, unfortunately.) The > following is just a write-up on how it works and what my

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

"Gnupg-users" wrote on 01/06/2015 10:28:12 PM: > - Message from "Robert J. Hansen" on Tue, > 6 Jan 2015 22:27:10 -0500 - > > To: > > MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> > > cc: > > "Mark H. Wood on GnuPG-U

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 4:30:45 AM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Sure it does — premeditation. Murder committed with > premeditation and malice aforethought is punished much > more severely (in most places) than a > heat-of-the-momen

RE: Thoughts on Keybase

Cavanaugh -Original Message- From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of MFPA Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:05 PM To: Robert J. Hansen on GnuPG-Users Subject: Re: Thoughts on Keybase * PGP Signed by an unknown key Hi On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 3:27:10 AM, in

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

On 01/06/2015 09:30 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > I understand you [MFPA] believe there is a right to be forgotten; I > hope you will understand I consider that to be Pollyannic fantasy. Indeed. I agree. But what about a right to authenticated pseudonymity? ___

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

> Aside from only demonstrating possible earlier intent rather later > actions, the fraction of comments of "I'll kill you" that actually convert to > murders is vanishingly small. If I were a juror, this evidence would > tell me nothing about guilt or otherwise. Sure it does — premeditation. Mur

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/2015 08:29 PM, MFPA wrote: > Hi > > > On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 2:14:43 AM, in > , Mirimir wrote: > > > >> I also favor compartmentalization. But reading >> , I don't see any requirement to >> include all online

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 3:27:10 AM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Unfortunately, unless you’re psychic this is > impossible. You don’t know what information will be > relevant. You’ll never discover “the dead guy spilled > a hot cof

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

Hi I like the idea of Keybase, although it may appear ironic that an application designed to encourage people to protect their privacy by using encryption more widely and accessibly may require the storage and public monitoring of digital identity records. I think it shows there must be give and

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 2:14:43 AM, in , Mirimir wrote: > I also favor compartmentalization. But reading > , I don't see any requirement to > include all online identity information, provide > government-issued ID,

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

> We know he was standing with a smoking gun, close to a body on the > ground. We should be investigating what happened, not wasting our time > with yesterday's food and the last three years' commuting habits. Unfortunately, unless you’re psychic this is impossible. You don’t know what informati

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/2015 06:04 PM, MFPA wrote: > Anyway, we have gone *way* off-topic. My original comment was intended > to convey my general opinion that a publicly-known dossier of > unrelated "identity" events sounds far too invasive to be comfortable. > A

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 6 January 2015 at 2:14:20 PM, in , Mark H. Wood wrote: > True. But we have established an identity between him > and a person of interest in the case. Investigation of > that interest is going to require some more identities > ("

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 6 January 2015 at 1:22:47 AM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Yes, which is plenty sufficient to soothe my conscience > about invasive measures. To me, that is tantamount to saying "If we think he did this but can't prove it; let's

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 08:22:47PM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > We only *suspect* that: we saw him holding a smoking gun but did not > > actually see him fire it. True. But we have established an identity between him and a person of interest in the case. Investigation of that interest is

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

> We only *suspect* that: we saw him holding a smoking gun but did not > actually see him fire it. Yes, which is plenty sufficient to soothe my conscience about invasive measures. If there's a homicide, ought it go uninvestigated and the shooter undiscovered just because we're concerned we might

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Monday 5 January 2015 at 3:22:19 AM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > In context, the person had just committed a murder (see > my remark about standing over a dead body holding a > smoking pistol). We only *suspect* that: we saw him holding

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

> To me, that sounds far too invasive to be comfortable. In context, the person had just committed a murder (see my remark about standing over a dead body holding a smoking pistol). I’m just fine with invasive identity establishment for murder suspects. :) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME crypt

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Monday 15 December 2014 at 6:40:22 PM, in , Robert J. Hansen wrote: > knowing that person > is also "the person who bought a bagel at a > delicatessen yesterday" and "the person who's driven a > Peugeot to work every day for the last three y

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

On 15 December 2014 at 19:40, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Keybase (https://keybase.io) is trying to solve the Web of Trust problem > in a new way. They're currently in beta, but I was able to snag an > invitation. (I have no invites to give out, unfortunately.) The following > is just a write-up

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 01:40:22PM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> Keybase (https://keybase.io) is trying to solve the Web of Trust problem in >> a new way. They're currently in beta, but I was able to snag an invitation. >> (I have no inv

Re: Thoughts on Keybase

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 01:40:22PM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Keybase (https://keybase.io) is trying to solve the Web of Trust problem in > a new way. They're currently in beta, but I was able to snag an invitation. > (I have no invites to give out, unfortunately.) FWIW, I have 3 invites. I

Thoughts on Keybase

Keybase (https://keybase.io) is trying to solve the Web of Trust problem in a new way. They're currently in beta, but I was able to snag an invitation. (I have no invites to give out, unfortunately.) The following is just a write-up on how it works and what my impressions of it are. You may