Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-25 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 25 July 2015 11:09:36 PM AEST, lee wrote: >Matthew Marchese writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts >on >> what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. > >The Debian installer is the best one I've seen so far. > >If you're thinking towards

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-25 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:18:58 -0600 Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar : > > Dear Gentoo Developers, > > > > We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation > > Library . > > > > May I ask somebody to volunteer to package it for Gentoo? >

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Terry Z.
In my opinion the installer is the last reason people do not use Gentoo. Look at the other distros out there without a graphical installer. One of them is one of the most popular distros out there. Gentoo experiences a difficulty pulling in more users for many reasons. Firstly there is a large m

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 17:35:51 Stroller wrote: > On Fri, 24 July 2015, at 3:35 pm, J.Rutkowski wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, at 07:56 AM, James wrote: > >> Rich, I'll be practical. Gentoo needs an installer program, like most > >> other distros if you want your rank_n_file users to entice ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 09:43 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 25 July 2015 08:49:35 Daniel Frey wrote: > >> I'm going to convert vixie-cron and anacron to cronie with the anacron USE >> set as well, so I can set the MAILFROM var in crontab as when machines email >> me I can't figure out which machin

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 July 2015 08:49:35 Daniel Frey wrote: > I'm going to convert vixie-cron and anacron to cronie with the anacron USE > set as well, so I can set the MAILFROM var in crontab as when machines email > me I can't figure out which machine it came from. That's odd. When vixie-cron is run a

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 24 July 2015, at 3:35 pm, J.Rutkowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015, at 07:56 AM, James wrote: >> >> >> Rich, I'll be practical. Gentoo needs an installer program, like most >> other distros if you want your rank_n_file users to entice new users. >> … > > I absolutely think that an in

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: > Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like > parted to check. > > Dan MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot manager can be chainloaded from there, but then it needs to be able

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 05:12 AM, lee wrote: > Daniel Frey writes: > >> Well, I sure haven't had much luck with SSDs. This will be the third one >> I've lost. > > + Buy good hardware. > + Never store anything on only a single disk (with very few exceptions). > + Do not put swap partitions on single disks,

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 14:09:57 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: > > On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: > >> > On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, wrote: > >> >> My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. > >> >> Ho

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/25/2015 06:09 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > Unfortunately, I must start over. After successfully installing linux, > I proceeded to install windows. The result was an unbootable system > "invalid partition table" (thank you windows installer). I rebooted the > linux installation disk and r

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED xen hvm USE flag disabled (xen: How to enable a non-existant USE flag? (xen doesn't work))

2015-07-25 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, hw wrote: > Hm, I'm not sure what to make of this bug. I switched profile to one that > doesn't say 'no-multilib', and the flag became available. However, I could > not compile xen-tools with hvm because stub-32.h was missing. FWIW, it is not enough to change the profile to

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Jeremi Piotrowski [15-07-25 16:24]: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > ...under which name/config option? > > > > If I grep through 4.1.3 sources I dont find anything, > > which is named 'mtu760*' or which contains that... > > > > You have the answer here: > > > Mick [

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Jc García
2015-07-25 8:18 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > That said I'm all for an installer graphical and remote (as a previous post said, automation comes handy at times) * I clicked send before I was finished editing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Jc García
2015-07-25 2:44 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon : > Once a year or so this list gets flooded by a new bunch of folks who > spew forth an unending stream of simple questions and can't be bothered > to look further than their nose. And these folks never contribute back. > I haven't been that long on this li

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > ...under which name/config option? > > If I grep through 4.1.3 sources I dont find anything, > which is named 'mtu760*' or which contains that... > You have the answer here: > Mick [15-07-25 15:12]: > > Which apparently was merged into mainl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread wraeth
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:44:19AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 25/07/2015 10:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: > > > >>> Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not > >>> being able to read simple instructions alrea

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [15-07-25 15:12]: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:49:52 Nils Larsson wrote: > > I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. > > > > But you could try the sources here: > > https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 > > Ah! Good find! This is the latest driver: > > https://github.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing SSD? (Somewhat OT)

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Daniel Frey writes: > Well, I sure haven't had much luck with SSDs. This will be the third one > I've lost. + Buy good hardware. + Never store anything on only a single disk (with very few exceptions). + Do not put swap partitions on single disks, either. + Disks always come in pairs at least.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Matthew Marchese writes: > Hi all, > > I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts on > what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. The Debian installer is the best one I've seen so far. If you're thinking towards Redhat, the Fedora installer can't even do partitioning, an

Re: [gentoo-user] xen doesn't work

2015-07-25 Thread lee
hydra writes: >> However, you don't have >>> hvm/qemu enabled so that's why your HVM guests won't start up. >>> >> >> Indeed that was the problem. Once I found that out, I finally was able to >> get it to work. It's quite frustrating when you follow the documentation >> and yet things just don

Re: [gentoo-user] xen: How to enable a non-existant USE flag? (xen doesn't work)

2015-07-25 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:42:00 +0200, hw wrote: > >> > Of course, there may be a very good reason why this flag is masked on >> > no-multilib profiles, in which case you will not only see why but get >> > to keep the resulting shrapnel. >> >> I would say it is wrong to di

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: > On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: >> >> > On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, wrote: >> >> >> >> My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. >> >> However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. >> >> >> >> It finds

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:49:52 Nils Larsson wrote: > I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. > > But you could try the sources here: > https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 Ah! Good find! This is the latest driver: https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u Which apparently was me

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Nils Larsson
I've always found USB wifi dongles to be hit-n-miss on linux. But you could try the sources here: https://github.com/porjo/mt7601 lör 25 jul 2015 13:11 Mick skrev: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:02:56 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi Mick, > > > > THAT helps me! I already did download the driv

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 12:02:56 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi Mick, > > THAT helps me! I already did download the driver sources...for kernel > 2.6.x...ieeekkks! The driver may still work fine with current kernels. > I will look for something with an Atheros chipset. I already found > some

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [15-07-25 12:32]: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 10:16:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: "Linux > > cpmpatible, driver available". > > > > As it seams, it was an advertising: > > The driver is a source code archive of the vendor -

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 11:23:39 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 25 July 2015 11:19:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Short "second" question: > > Is it possible to limit the devices, which could connect to the access > > point, to some MACs ? > > It depends on the device you choose for your a

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 10:16:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: "Linux > cpmpatible, driver available". > > As it seams, it was an advertising: > The driver is a source code archive of the vendor - > last updated for kernel ... 2.6.x. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 July 2015 11:19:39 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Short "second" question: > Is it possible to limit the devices, which could connect to the access > point, to some MACs ? It depends on the device you choose for your access point. Some allow you to filter MACs, others may not. Sorry

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [15-07-25 09:52]: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 04:25:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > since the topic "WLAN/Wifi" is a wide area and I am only a pedestrian > > (and a not native english speaker too), I want to ask for a keyword or > > terminus technicus, what I need to search for..

[gentoo-user] Wifi: Hardware out of luck ?

2015-07-25 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi, I bought a Wifi USB dongle, on which box was stated: "Linux cpmpatible, driver available". As it seams, it was an advertising: The driver is a source code archive of the vendor - last updated for kernel ... 2.6.x. lsusb reports: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT760

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/07/2015 10:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: > >>> Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not >>> being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on >>> google&thinking for themselves. Just look

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Philip Webb
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people > not being able to read simple instructions already > or spend 5 min on Google & thinking for themselves. > Just look at this mailing list. We really don't need more of them. I'm not sure we do have ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:12:27 + (UTC), James wrote: > > I attend a LUG monthly and the only sponsorship it gets is the > > building space it meets in - and it doesn't have trouble finding > > them. > > So many LUGs died in many cities because anyone can download an > installer and put buntu

[gentoo-user] Firefox-31.8.0 build fails on no-multilib PC

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
Any idea how I can fix the errors it mentions below: === creating cache ./config.cache checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:07:20 -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: > > Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not > > being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on > > google&thinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We > > really don't need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:01:20 -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > Gentoo does not need an 'installer'. We have way too many people not > > being able to read simple instructions already or spending 5minutes on > > google&thinking for themselves. Just look at this mailing list. We > > really don't ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:42:29 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Heh, if Gentoo cared about distrowatch we'd probably stick Gentoo > somewhere in our user agent strings for all our browsers. I look at > it maybe once a year at most, and when I do it doesn't count as a > Gentoo visitor. IIRC the Distro

Re: [gentoo-user] Qucik and (not so) dirty WLAN setup

2015-07-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 04:25:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > since the topic "WLAN/Wifi" is a wide area and I am only a pedestrian > (and a not native english speaker too), I want to ask for a keyword or > terminus technicus, what I need to search for... > > Wanted setup: > I Wifi connec