icies that this
doesn't go anywhere.
Maybe someone could at least punt the single unusable ebuild that
remains in the tree so that something marginally useful would come out
of this.
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version bumps and couple of other bugs that need
some loving.
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... stil
features just to get rid of arrays and bash?
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
> Surely you would provide choice by providing different baselayout
> packages; one tailored for embedded systems that only have busybox,
> one for general purpose use, etc. That's what the virtual is fo
it ATM if you want to replace
multiple BIOS modes...
# to replace more than one mode do something like this
#replace=(
# "4d 1280 768 24"
# "5c 1400 1050 16"
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ime
sucks and is causing needless work for maintainers. We lack any policy
on this, but if some arch can't act for over a year, they deserve to get
the keywords dropped and get their deptree broken, sorry. Not
maintainers' fault that noone has cared enough.
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Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:30:43 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | - I'm *not* demanding anything from *arch teams*, the bugs are for
> | *maintainers* of those packages. I've already told you couple of
> | times, why are you making
you tell them to do that stuff gets broken
> on a regular basis.
Oh, there's nothing like attacking someone for someone else's fault.
Won't waste my time on your trollish rants any more.
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Alexander Færøy napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:50:02PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Eh? Why should I stop filing bugs about stale vulnerable cruft? Should
>> it stay in the tree forever (unless some $we_all_know_which_arch dev
>> wakes up by miracle a
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:59 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | So, what are you blaming me for here? Grrr.
>
> Misassigning or premature filing, as you prefer.
Oh sure... Next time, blame me for Sept 11, keep amusing us by your
bu
version x.y.z stabilized
first. Sorry, enough babysitting here, either devs can read or they
shouldn't have commit access.
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Mohammed Hagag napsal(a):
> amarok-1.4.5 doesn't install any thing except the .po files when
> emerging without the kde USE flag, is this normal ?
No, it's not normal, and no, this is not a proper place. We have
bugzilla for such things (see Bug 167536).
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Danny van Dyk napsal(a):
> What about making custom-cflags default in the base profile?
Uhm? Maybe re-read the description of the flags? It's unsupported and
breaks stuff, that's why the use flag exists...
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the
'valuable input' provided so kindly here by ciaranm, which is so
valuable that it has cost us two developers in two days.
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And of course this was a great occasion to start screaming about license
violation and demand bigger fonts on devmanual frontpage. [1]
As said, grow up.
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150231#c5
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Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:08:40 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions
>> from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document
>> originally,
] http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/docs/flame.html
> Ciaranm never left, but was forced out by idiots
Well done, nice insult of lots of people. Really helpful.
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cruiting people as always? And that you will continue silently
watching the trolls team associated around mips and ciaranm call people
fuckheads, idiots and making a gutter of something that's supposed to be
a development mailing list?
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Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these
>> 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are
>> recruiting people a
flooding my mailbox with such junk, *NOW*. Move
this gay debate to /dev/null or create yourself a gentoo-chat mailing
list, but stop polluting a development ML with this noise already.
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e promoting ricing on Sunrise project.
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> Sometimes people need to be bluntly told to stop screwing up.
Indeed, so eroyf was told to stop screwing up, he just didn't get it
(apparently neither did you, for that matter). And don't start this
'mips needs more babysitting' nonsense here again, please.
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Stephen Becker napsal(a):
> On 3/15/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yeah indeed, lets get the facts straight and let's see who did behave
>> like an asshole:
>>
>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=110676&action=view
>
> Indeed b
hed release. So _alpha is the closest one to current netbeans 6.0
> life cycle phase, though not accurate.
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portage; dunno how does that fit the netbeans upstream scheme, though.
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ded, just should be restricted to sane combos.
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... still
RY cluttered!
>> Nothing prevents from making appdirs in .config too.
>>
> True, but then .config would just become cluttered with .appdirs instead!
It wouldn't become any more or less cluttered than ~/ now...
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Jeff Rollin napsal(a):
> On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It wouldn't become any more or less cluttered than ~/ now...
> Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config directory...
I guess you are missing the point? Fire up Midnight Comman
VALID". NOCHANGE would indicate that whatever
> the original issue, no change is needed on our part to resolve the
> issue.
>
> Any reasons why this would be a bad idea?
>
NOCHANGE sucks... If you really insist on doing anything, then use NOTABUG.
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Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
[snip]
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug. Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
junk for this just because someone might feel 'offended'.
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horribly broken with -ffast-math'
causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll
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> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh,
>> my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math'
>> causes an offense to them? Well
es for bugs that are still open as
well, this implies that people either don't search at all or don't know
how to search efficiently; so I'm not too enthusiastic that changing the
default search would significantly reduce the number of dupes... )
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.
#x27;s already pretty overdue. It's
caused hundreds and hundreds of pointless bugs about 'missing'
dependencies and it's still breaking users. I could care less about
fox-1.2.6-r2, having this darned virtual unmasked breaks lots more
things than fox. There's no need
[snip]
Err, where the heck has gone the GuideXML editor project that was part
of last SoC?
(And yeah, I've heard from quite a couple of people that they are not
touching any docs because the GuideXML thing is something they'd rather
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are basically different branches, and it's *not* about whether
the code is newer or older in one or the other at all.
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7;d be very happy to see the whole 2.4
kernel branch declared as unsupported on Gentoo - noone's really testing
anything against those kernels these days and the bugs are lingering
there for ages as noone cares; even the 2.4 kernels we still have in the
tree are pretty much unmaintained).
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> Jakub Moc wrote:
>> - The in-kernel drivers seriously are not an equivalent alternative, let
>> alone the preferred one, for stuff like hda-intel or any similar drivers
>> that are under permanent heavy development, at least for now.
>
> If hda
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> Nobody is forcing anybody to use in-kernel drivers.
Uhm... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172490
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Prim
hat bug list?
All bugs: http://tinyurl.com/2q87ho
Open bugs only: http://tinyurl.com/2tm9mw
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uddenly bloat all of our src_install functions for no
> gain at all ... sounds like a no brainer to me
+1, this is a horrible idea that would just cause loads of bugs
impossible to check for in advance, major work for lots of people and
major bloat for no good reason. Bleh. :/
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If the Makefiles suck, file bugs upstream instead of dumping the stuff
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elopers is when something's broken
> anyway, and that's far better than ending up with a broken install.
Well of course it's the users who will see it, see above. It's not like
that we would have 100 volunteers around to drop everything they have in
their hands a go spend days on
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> If someone can provide a good reason for changing to a system that's
> more work, I'll change. If there isn't a good reason, I won't.
Maybe if you actually read the council log, you'd see the reason? yeah,
it's indeed there, believe
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:20:46 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
>>> If someone can provide a good reason for changing to a system that's
>>> more work, I'll change. If there isn'
Thilo Bangert napsal(a):
> this seems to come up more often than you like. is this the release
> tracker bug?
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156814
>
> kind regards
> Thilo
Yeah. It's restricted to developers only, though, so not much useful for
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> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 20:40 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Thilo Bangert napsal(a):
>>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156814
>> Yeah. It's restricted to developers only, though, so not much useful for
>> users. :)
>
> Yea
turn them off in make.conf.
Even such change would piss off users. Having *no* way to turn off
tests, uuuhhh please retire me *before* someone implements this, I'm not
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> Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Even such change would piss off users. Having *no* way to turn off
>> tests, uuuhhh please retire me *before* someone implements this, I'm not
>> going to waste my time on totally pointless bugs filed by furious u
hap=3#doc_chap4
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his mail. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't
appreciate to be thanked in this context, and that's a good thing.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82772
[2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143519
[3] http://cia.vc/stats/author/p
On 4/17/07, Bryan Østergaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:01:46AM +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
>
> Whoever is in charge, kindly change my bugzilla account to the email
> address this mail is sent from and take care of the setting the
> bugzilla privs ac
t to Gentoo as you've been so far. ;)
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38368
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tly make future cooperation any easier imo.
Maybe just read above? What kind of co-operation are you expecting wrt
developers who have repeatedly shown that they can't plain be bothered
with fixing their junk, because they are just way too cool to deal
with some useless idiots, such as bug wran
time. And I've said that if any
maintainer has issues w/ re-assigning the keywording stuff to arches,
they are welcome to contact me and we'll sort it out. (Oh, and not
exactly my fault that you got angry because alpha has gone ahead of
mips in the slacker stats on these re-assignments, which
s are often testing in chroots or test boxes with just the
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refrain from taking 'emergency' measures on
issues where there's no emergency whatsoever. There's been a bug open
for over two months and noone ever suggested that I'd be a case for
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maintainers of such ebuilds to move
them to 'as soon as possible'? And why's moving them ASAP exactly
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The ones with the copyright problems?
>
I'm out of topic i think. Could you amplify, please?
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158197
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/msg_01213.xml
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_141498.xml
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On 4/29/07, William L. Thomson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 11:28 +0200, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote:
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>
> It would be nice if there where some CD/DVD labels created, that people
> could print and put on their LiveCDs/Insta
uld be fine.
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165629,
http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=116026024223024&w=2 etc.
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news reporting" feature for such
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Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:53:47 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> For what situation? Changing * to */* is a bunch of config files (as
>> far as I've been told, paludis warns about this deprecated syntax
>> anyway)?
>&
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php
>> users, apache users or whoever else who will use the news item? Let's
>>
ce documentation. You seriously intend to use
this feature for such stuff and force everyone to download this via rsync?
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Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:48:28 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, I'm afraid that GLEP42 is missing the part that critical news
>> reporting does not replace documentation. You seriously intend to use
>> this feature f
n postinst/CONFIG_PROTECT.
>
> And these changes can't be handled that way, since paludis configs can
> and do exist in home directories as well as in /etc.
Shrug; frankly just a matter of adding $HOME/.paludis/etc or whatever
(example) to CONFIG_PROTECT... Why it couldn't be do
s) read explicit runtime deprecation warnings.
Because the above is clearly stupid - what are you really after here,
may I ask? I guess amne is right here.
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as a licenses file:
... Use of token '*' is deprecated, use '*/*' instead
You seriously want to claim that paludis users can't read? Again; what
exactly are you after here? (And drop the 'experience has shown', 'users
want it', 'it's non-trivia
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:19:27 +0200
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
>>> On Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:27 +0200
>>> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Paludis users
nstead
How much more explanation about this 'critical' change do the users
*need*? If they don't get the above, maybe paludis and Linux just isn't
for them and they should stick to Windows. Meanwhile there's no need to
establish a precedent of using critical news for PEBKA
itical, so yeah, it's entirely irrelevant.
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... still no
more useful entry than 'many
bugfixes' or nothing at all in ChangeLog - which is not so rare at all,
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and "users like it" may be nice for one package overlay, and a
genuine PITA for a tree with thousands of ebuilds at the same time.
Repeating it doesn't go anywhere, nor will it make any of your point
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>> happy users read them from there.
>
> Also already been covered. Read the thread.
Haven't noticed either, maybe you could point us to where has this been
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The current ebuild is outdated and there's a couple of minor issues that
are getting stale. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/s8o6k
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Nice utility, now unfortunately a bit orphaned and with lots of open
bugs. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/2mkd7s
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done with that. If
> users complain, ask them to talk to Tuomo Valkonen.
>
> Cheers,
> -jkt
>
Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has
apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the
upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't sp
Peter Gordon napsal(a):
> On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 00:41 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has
>> apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the
>> upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't
om a crisp
one.
Once again, I don't want to use any software produced by such abusive
moron, and other people should do the same - or they should help them
themselves and compile the only original, trademarked Ion3 (C)(TM) manually.
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Timothy Redaelli napsal(a):
> /me votes for remove them (and app-cdr/nero)
Uhm, kindly leave app-arch/rar alone; that unrar-gpl thing is just a bad
joke.
(No idea what does the rest of licenses belong to, would make sense to
post ebuilds names instead.)
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Carsten Lohrke napsal(a):
> On Montag, 14. Mai 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Uhm, kindly leave app-arch/rar alone; that unrar-gpl thing is just a bad
>> joke.
>
> There's app-arch/unrar, so this is no point. When unrar-gpl is so broken, why
> it's in the tree?
May 2007).
Leaving the old-style virtuals in place leaves the new style ones
non-fuctional, so you'd better remove them right now. ;)
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Ulrich Mueller napsal(a):
> The Emacs team has converted the following virtual packages:
>
>virtual/emacs
>virtual/flim
>
> to new-style (aka GLEP 37) virtuals.
Oh, and naming the new-style virtuals the same as the real thing kills
binpkgs. :/
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the ebuild in the first place.
It's been discussed with the original maintainer over and over again,
and the conclusion was that it's not safe to have two versions of expat
installed on the same system. So, why don't we just stick to that and be
done with it?
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Steve Long napsal(a):
> welp's been away ;)
Oh well, the dreaded *buntu maintenance eats time, you know... *g*
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Thilo Bangert napsal(a):
>>> It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages
>>> with the same name, you have the same problem.
>> On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename.
>> app-vim/ant
>
> and app-vim/sudo
and app-xemacs/emerge, g
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;s the horrible issue with porting those, beyond 'oh we don't care,
use gnupg-1 because the legacy feeling is oh so great'?
Shrug.
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Primar
ly... 8 bugs altogether, 2 enhancements, 2 stabilization, 1
LDAP-related, 2 DLZ related, 1 hardened.
http://tinyurl.com/3cwhjv
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??? English only, please.
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re' link.
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Harald van Dijk napsal(a):
> so eutils.eclass's check_license function should probably be used.
Broken until Bug 17367 is implemented. It's enough that loads of games
kill non-interactivity.
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Mike Frysinger napsal(a):
> On Friday 06 July 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Harald van Dijk napsal(a):
>>> so eutils.eclass's check_license function should probably be used.
>> Broken until Bug 17367 is implemented.
>
> the same exact thing could be said for ever
Harald van Dijk napsal(a):
> And what if they decide they don't accept the license on the first run?
Then the software won't run, very easy.
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k either.
> There is a memory conflict between the X space and vesa.
> I basically think that users (As advanced Gentoo user can be) cannot
> have a workable environment in a reasonable effort... I know I have
> failed.
vesafb-tng works just perfectly fine here w/ nVidia/ATI/Intel. You are
This ebuild has a security bug open for almost one year (Bug 142817),
plus lots of other bugs as well.
If you are interested, please see http://tinyurl.com/32webs
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ed is the eclass and a sample how to use it with netqmail.
>
> It seems like you aren't interested in communication with the
> maintainer, otherwise you would've CC'ed me.
Erm? This was completely uncalled for, I'd say?!
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't we use current gentoo-announce list for seems to exist for
this exact purpose? In that way, people who wish to participate in
on-topic, off-topic or straight retarded debates would still have the
choice to do so, while not forcing the majority of others to 'mark
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