Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/08/2013 11:49 PM, Duncan wrote: > Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:36:59 -0800 as excerpted: > >>> Thought: Do the CVS keyword expansion in repoman, and then feed the >>> expanded file to CVS for commit. This gives you a fixed file, which >>> you can then generate your manifest agai

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 03/01/13 00:41, Pacho Ramos wrote: > What is the purpose of this stuff: > if [[ ${___ECLASS_ONCE_EUTILS} != "recur -_+^+_- spank" ]] ; then > ___ECLASS_ONCE_EUTILS="recur -_+^+_- spank" > I don't know exactly sure if this is the source of some recent problems, but I assume it is. While fixing

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:40 AM, justin wrote: > My question, did anybody else might have observed similar things? Is > there a flaw in this *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff? There could well be, but even in the absence of the *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff, the problem that you're describing could be attributed to eclass confl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > > Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that > > they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines. Whether that's > > actually the case or not I've no idea... > > Well, I'd suggest to simply drop the keyword

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 10:09, Fabian Groffen wrote: > Yeah, but I'd really appreciate it if they could stay for as long as > we're on CVS, so my scripts that use the version number to retrieve > diffs and apply them to the Prefix' tree versions keep on working. Since we're discussing adding this on Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:03, Zac Medico wrote: > On 01/09/2013 12:40 AM, justin wrote: >> My question, did anybody else might have observed similar things? Is >> there a flaw in this *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff? > > There could well be, but even in the absence of the *ECLASS_ONCE_* > stuff, the problem that you're

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: > > Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the > difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken > tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. This looks like the _version_ of autoconf used is differ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 10:14:21 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 10:09, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > Yeah, but I'd really appreciate it if they could stay for as long as > > we're on CVS, so my scripts that use the version number to retrieve > > diffs and apply them to the Prefix' tree versions

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: >> >> Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the >> difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken >> tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. > > Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: >> >> Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the >> difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken >> tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. > > Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 12:29, justin wrote: > On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >> On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: >>> >>> Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the >>> difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken >>> tclConfig.sh. So this simp

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 12:39, justin wrote: > I assume it is a portage problem, because the log says autoconf is run > but configure.in didn't change. > What do you mean configure.in didn't change but autoconf is run? Does it cause a maintainer-mode rebuild? Did you use eautoreconf? -- Diego Elio Pett

[gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:42:39 -0800 as excerpted: > Weren't we planning to drop the CVS keywords for the git migration, > anyway? Talking about which... I don't want a big subthread out of this, just looking for a simple answer: Are the git migration blockers at such a point th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:20, Duncan wrote: > Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA > yet? PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. And yes I know it's not polite to scream. At this point I DON'T CARE. -- Diego El

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:42:39 -0800 as excerpted: > >> Weren't we planning to drop the CVS keywords for the git migration, >> anyway? > > Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA > y

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 12:44, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 12:39, justin wrote: >> I assume it is a portage problem, because the log says autoconf is run >> but configure.in didn't change. >> > > What do you mean configure.in didn't change but autoconf is run? > the build.log says Running eau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:23:13 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT > MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Translation: "We all know that there are lots of things that would be a hell of a lot easier if we weren't the only project in the wor

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:35, justin wrote: > Running autoheader ...[!!] That is unfortunately common... > A diff between the original and the two run build's configure.in shows > only a difference by one of the two (in both cases the autoheader failed). I lost you here... can you attach the build logs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Translation: "We all know that there are lots of things that would be a > hell of a lot easier if we weren't the only project in the world still > using CVS, but the Git migration is never going to happen, so > mentioning it just makes everyone angry."

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 13:40, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 13:35, justin wrote: >> Running autoheader ...[!!] > > That is unfortunately common... > >> A diff between the original and the two run build's configure.in shows >> only a difference by one of the two (in both cases the autoheader fail

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:54, justin wrote: > I found the problem. The patch works on configure and configure.in. If > both files are patched sometimes autoconf doesn't run. > I fixed the patch to only touch .in and everything is fine. > > autoconf or eautoconf problem? QA violation by patching both files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/01/2013 13:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Translation: "We all know that there are lots of things that would be a >> hell of a lot easier if we weren't the only project in the world still >> using CVS, but the Git migration is never

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 01:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: >>> Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that >>> they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines. Whether that's >>> actually the case or not I've no idea... >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 05:06:15 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > If we had a live cvs -> git sync, then I'd suggest that you migrate your > scripts to use that instead. However, it looks like this one is not > synced regularly (last sync was about 2 months ago): > > http://git-exp.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p

[gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Duncan
Diego Elio Pettenò posted on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:23:13 +0100 as excerpted: > On 09/01/2013 13:20, Duncan wrote: >> Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA >> yet? > > PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT > MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Vicente Olivert Riera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone :-) some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed to create new TESTED_${ARCH} keywords. Personally, I was using TESTED keyword when an ebuild was t

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 9 January 2013 18:17, Vicente Olivert Riera wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello everyone :-) > > some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla > keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed to > create new TESTED_${ARCH} k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2013-01-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:33:02 -0600 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 05:31 Fri 21 Dec , Matt Turner wrote: > > My point is that you consistently write long essays that I, and > > apparently most others, don't bother to read. I'm not sure if > > you're aware of this. > > > > Someone said on IRC thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:39:09 +0200 Markos Chandras wrote: > On 9 January 2013 18:17, Vicente Olivert Riera > > some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla > > keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed > > to create new TESTED_${ARCH} keywords. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:06:15 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 01/09/2013 01:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > >>> Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that > >>> they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines.

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > A lot clearer than a single text field littered with keywords would be some > tick boxes, indeed. In fact, it makes me wonder why we use a half-obscured > list > in a select field for adding/removing arch teams now. Agree - mostly legacy (

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 07-01-2013 a las 10:34 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: [...] > This will install a README.gentoo file > > But there are still pending issues I don't know how to handle: > - Eclass was originally oriented to cover those kind of messages that > could be shown by elog first time the package is m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:31 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > I guess we could use the cvs -ko option [1] on all files. That's > apparently what prevents $Header expansion for $PORTDIR/skel.ebuild. Actually, we should use -kb rather than -ko, since -kb disables transformations entirely [1]. The -ko mode is identica

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets > information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there are multiple versions/slots that have different README.gentoo content? Maybe the eclass should accommodate that somehow? -- Than

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: > On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets > > information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo > > What if there are multiple versions/slots that have different > README.gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 22:15 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: > > On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets > > > information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo > > > > Wh

[gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread William Hubbs
All, as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree. This new version implements a new feature called predictable network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live systems, because it will require migration on the part of the user. When you upgrade to this new vers

Re: [gentoo-dev] EFI stub booting, was: borked release media

2013-01-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Greg KH schrieb: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> Greg KH schrieb: No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in some location where UEFI looks f

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Head
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a news item when 197 (or greater) goes stable informing people that the option is available and

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Christopher Head wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames > > This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a news > item when

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Head
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:13:21 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > There is a way for users to opt out if we default this to on, but I > think the new naming scheme has advantages over the traditional eth* > wlan* etc names. I think it should be taken with a grain of salt. The page mentions how it lets yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/09/2013 04:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree. > > This new version implements a new feature called predictable > network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for > li

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no > complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from > systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism. Will eudev be pursuing this > as well? Keep in mind that this

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no >> complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from >> systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism. Will eudev be