Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 16:34 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > I would expect it to act like any other Linux box and get a new address > via dhcp, or, if I wasn't using dhcp, sit on the old address, even > though it is now incorrect, until I changed it. A netplug event should > trigger dhcp events,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 16:31 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 14:10 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > At this point, the process freezes for a LONG time that can't be > > interupted because as the cable has already been unplugged it can't > > unmount (if anyone knows how to actuall

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 15. August 2007 schrieb ext Benjamin Smee: > it works with baselayout-1. I rechecked again yesterday evening, to make sure I didn't overlook something. No, it doesn't, at least for me. > So please file a bug. Done. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189073 Bye... Dir

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge feature suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/15/07, Vaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Alec Warner wrote: > > On 8/13/07, Nathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I suppose this comes down to weighing the utility of such a feature > > > against the amount of effort which would go into adding it to Portage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 17:34 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 17:07 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: > > To avoid that problem, do not stop net.ethN when the cable is > > pulled. When the cable is re-inserted then (if it has not been left > > disconnected for too long) if the services ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 14:10 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > At this point, the process freezes for a LONG time that can't be > interupted because as the cable has already been unplugged it can't > unmount (if anyone knows how to actually return ASAP I'd like to know > that too). umount -l The problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Arturo Garcia
On Wednesday 15 Aug 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > If say you have nfs mounts, one network cable and then unplug the cable > you get this :- >netplug calls net.eth0 stop >net.eth0 stop calls netmount stop >netmount stop tries to unmount the nfs mounts Perhaps it should be seen the other wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Porting app-portage/maintainer-helper to GTK+

2007-08-15 Thread Dawid Węgliński
Dnia 15-08-2007, śro o godzinie 13:09 -0400, Luis Francisco Araujo napisał(a): > > Count me in! o/ And don't forget we play in one team ;-) -- ,-. | Dawid Węgliński | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cla @ irc.freenode.net | | GPG: 295E72D9

Re: [gentoo-dev] Porting app-portage/maintainer-helper to GTK+

2007-08-15 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe some of you have already seen app-portage/maintainer-helper from > Jokey. It is written for Qt, but I was just happy to replace the last > Qt app with something agnostic/GTK+ based on my system. Unluckily

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 17:07 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: > To avoid that problem, do not stop net.ethN when the cable is > pulled. When the cable is re-inserted then (if it has not been left > disconnected for too long) if the services have not stopped, TCP > sessions may still be active. So what d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Doug Goldstein
Graham Murray wrote: Mike Auty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. I had a problem. I moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs to /etc/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Graham Murray
Mike Auty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you > gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs > to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. I had a problem. I moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt, but none of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Graham Murray
Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If say you have nfs mounts, one network cable and then unplug the cable > you get this :- >netplug calls net.eth0 stop >net.eth0 stop calls netmount stop >netmount stop tries to unmount the nfs mounts > At this point, the process freezes for a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2007-15-08 at 15:02 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 10:09 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote: > > I believe services that don't bind to a specific address should probably > > only depend on net.lo, not net. > > Well, they can actually depend on a specific net service too. > For e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 10:09 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote: > I believe services that don't bind to a specific address should probably > only depend on net.lo, not net. Well, they can actually depend on a specific net service too. For example, I have this on my home server in /etc/conf.d/lighttpd RC_N

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2007-15-08 at 14:10 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > OK, so whilst we're gearing up for hopefully the last baselayout-2 > release candidate I thought I would pose to the list a question I've > been struggling with for some time. > > Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default? > (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
I suppose I should mention that the setting in baselayout-2 I'm talking about is RC_DEPEND_STRICT if you want to toggle it to see. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default?

2007-08-15 Thread Roy Marples
OK, so whilst we're gearing up for hopefully the last baselayout-2 release candidate I thought I would pose to the list a question I've been struggling with for some time. Should hotplugged services affect dependencies by default? (Note, this is not about enabling hotplugged services by default wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Benjamin Smee
heya, On Wednesday 15 August 2007 12:26:32 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Yes, did it. And added dmcrypt to the boot runlevel. don't unless you're running baselayout-2 > But it doesn't. While booting, the dmcrypt init script says it works on bl > 2 only, mappings are not created. Why is this change nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Benjamin Smee
On Wednesday 15 August 2007 11:56:55 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 11:15 Wed 15 Aug , Mike Auty wrote: > > Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you > > gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs > > to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. There's curr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Benjamin Smee
heya, On Wednesday 15 August 2007 07:01:12 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Dienstag, 14. August 2007 schrieb ext Benjamin Smee: > I'm not a developer, but since I was already bitten by this, a few comments: > > >=cryptsetup-1.0.5 as -luks will be deprecated soon. > > Don't do this until upgrading/repla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:15 Wed 15 Aug , Mike Auty wrote: > Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you > gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs > to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. There's currently several ewarn lines saying > that this must be done before t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dirk, Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. There's currently several ewarn lines saying that this must be done befo

[gentoo-dev] Porting app-portage/maintainer-helper to GTK+

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Maybe some of you have already seen app-portage/maintainer-helper from Jokey. It is written for Qt, but I was just happy to replace the last Qt app with something agnostic/GTK+ based on my system. Unluckily I have no real idea about GTK+ and it would be nice, if someone could help Jokey to p

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/ids

2007-08-15 Thread Gunnar Wrobel
# Gunnar Wrobel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (15 Aug 2007) # Has open security bugs and upstream seems to be dead # http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158698 www-apps/ids will be removed in 30 days as usual if nobody objects. -- Gunnar WrobelGentoo Developer __C_o

[gentoo-dev] Re: kde startet nicht mehr

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [...] Sorry guys, was for -user-de V-Li -- http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.faulhammer.org/ http://www.gnupg.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: kde startet nicht mehr

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Volker Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sind sie nicht vorhanden, dann die Pakete xset und xsetroot > > nachinstallieren (und ggf. einen Bugreport erstellen über fehlende > > Abhängigkeiten). xset und xsetroot werden in den Skripten aufgerufen, haben aber am Ende keinen Effekt. > Allerdings ist mi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 15. August 2007 schrieb ext Duncan: > So baselayout-2 hard-masking isn't likely to be an issue for much longer. Well, for me it was an issue yesterday. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 C

[gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So baselayout-2 hard-masking isn't likely to be an issue for much > longer. As long as it bl-2 is hard masked, all packages depending on it, should be too. V-Li -- http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.faulhammer.org/ http://www.gnupg.org/ signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Duncan
Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:01:12 +0200: > Please hard mask cryptsetup as long as baselayout 2 is, or fix it to > work with bl 1, too. See the "baselayout-2 stabilization plans" thread from July 21, and http://bugs.gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge feature suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Vaeth
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Alec Warner wrote: > On 8/13/07, Nathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I suppose this comes down to weighing the utility of such a feature > > against the amount of effort which would go into adding it to Portage. > > Its trivial to implement, but I think its a long s