Re: [gentoo-dev] Identical Packages?

2005-09-23 Thread Philip Webb
050923 Albert Hopkins wrote: > There are two packages in portage with the same category/name: > dev-perl/Text-Reform > dev-perl/text-reform > I know, they're not exactly the same. > They also have the same description, etc. Is this intentional? 'esearch' shows one is masked & the other not & t

[gentoo-dev] Identical Packages?

2005-09-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
There are two packages in portage with the same category/name: dev-perl/Text-Reform dev-perl/text-reform (I know, they're not exactly the same ). They also have the same description, etc. Is this intentional? -m signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Mats Hellman
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Patrick Kursawe wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +0200, Pawe? Madej wrote: I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing Gentoo Linux in coordinance with standards provided by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hurricane Rita Evacuation (fwd)

2005-09-23 Thread Rafer
On Friday 23 September 2005 19:38, Deedra Waters wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:46:38 -0500 > From: Jason Huebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Hurricane Rita Evacuation > > I just wanted to give you guys an update on our status with our > evacuation f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about XML files used in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 23 September 2005 18:41, Grobian wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > One reason is that there still is no real agreement on what schema to > > support. Also when I wrote those I was more at home with DTD's than with > > WXS or Relaxng, and xmllint (part of libxml2) did not support WXS > >

[gentoo-dev] Hurricane Rita Evacuation (fwd)

2005-09-23 Thread Deedra Waters
-- Deedra Waters - Gentoo developer relations, accessibility and infrastructure - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo linux: http://www.gentoo.org -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:46:38 -0500 From: Jason Huebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Paweł Madej
Thank you All for answers, I have now clear look for that thing which was new to me. I use linux for about 1,5 year so many of things are unknown. Greets Pawel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Duncan
Paweł Madej posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:22:43 +0200: > Hello, > > I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my > question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing Gentoo > Linux in coordinance with standards provid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Nope. There's no interest in LSB compliance. LSB isn't a real standard, | it's some nonsense dreamed up so that companies like Sun can claim that | they are "Linux compliant" (meaning "behaves like RedHat"). Of course you'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ervin Nemeth wrote: | I see, but how about defining ForceNormalLib as NO in host.def? Yes, that is the way to do it, and I actually have xorg doing this already on USE=minimal. But at this point, monolithic xorg-x11 is in security mode -- it's not ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 September 2005 12:22 pm, Paweł Madej wrote: > I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my > question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing Gentoo > Linux in coordinance with standards provided by this specification? this has come up before o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:22:43 +0200 Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my | question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing | Gentoo Linux in coordinance with standards provided by this | specification? Nope.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Patrick Kursawe
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +0200, Pawe? Madej wrote: > I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my > question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing Gentoo > Linux in coordinance with standards provided by this specification? > > Could someone g

[gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Ervin Nemeth
Brian Jackson wrote: Solar had a nifty per package INSTALL_MASK in his bashrc at one point I think. Now I think the USE flag should be "install no static libraries for which shared version is provided". In Solaris 10 Sun engineers have eliminated static libraries. Linux is not yet ready for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about XML files used in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Grobian
Paul de Vrieze wrote: One reason is that there still is no real agreement on what schema to support. Also when I wrote those I was more at home with DTD's than with WXS or Relaxng, and xmllint (part of libxml2) did not support WXS validation. I'll look into creating a WXS version. Is WXS a

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > * Does anyone think we should make users build spell lists from > | > source, even though it can require several GBytes of RAM? > | > | Only if requested by user (think about an useflag) > > USE flags control things that

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:12:27 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > Vim 7 includes a native spellchecker. It uses its own spell file | > format which can be created using Myspell *.aff/*.dic files (the | > same as for Mozilla and OpenOffice). The spell files are

[gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Project

2005-09-23 Thread Paweł Madej
Hello, I've found a news that LSB Release3 [1] was announced. So there is my question. Are Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo Developers developing Gentoo Linux in coordinance with standards provided by this specification? Could someone give me reasons why yes or no? Greets Pawel -- gentoo-dev@gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Lares Moreau
> * Does anyone think we should make users build spell lists from source, > even though it can require several GBytes of RAM? A Use flag and a warning message with a 5 second delay might be adviseable. Some users add USE flags with out worrying about what resources it may take. -Lares -- gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 September 2005 23:42, Brian Harring wrote: > GLEP23's accept_license is (for me) the preferred solution; you have > everything locally, the choice of what you use is yours (rather then a > default upstream with a secondary repo of commercial). It doesn't fully cover what's being discu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Paweł Madej
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 22 September 2005 05:23 am, Ervin Németh wrote: > you can put 'EXTRA_ECONF=--disable-static' into your /etc/make.conf ... -mike Is this safe to use on desktop machine or it is only developers suggestion for testing? I want to know if it could broke my syste

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 23:08 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > *Relax!* ;) I'm quite calm, actually. > I meant extending the fetch-restriction concept to include all cases where > an ebuild is not fully self-contained; that is, cases where the ebuild is > not capable of obtaining all necessary compon

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Philippe Trottier wrote: > Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:54 +0100, Jos?? Carlos Cruz Costa wrote: > > > >>Hi everybody, > >> > >>If it's commercial, the company in question should (and must) allow an > >>ebuild for is product, like what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Brian Jackson
Ervin Nemeth wrote: I've got no full solution. The EXTRA_ECONF way works only for automake packages. Using INSTALL_MASK='*.a' makes me really, really terrified if I think about sys-devel/gcc. /Ervin Solar had a nifty per package INSTALL_MASK in his bashrc at one point I think. --Iggy -

[gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Ervin Nemeth
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 09:53 am, Ervin Nemeth wrote: >>I see, but how about defining ForceNormalLib as NO in host.def? > > it produces a bunch of static-only libraries And ForceNormalLib doesn't affect those libraries. INSTALL_MASK does, however. /Ervin -- gentoo-d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Ervin Nemeth
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 04:10 am, Ervin Nemeth wrote: > >>Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >>>On Thursday 22 September 2005 05:23 am, Ervin Németh wrote: >>> For automake packages it is as simple as giving a --disable-static to configure. >>> >>>you can put 'EXTRA_ECONF

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 September 2005 22:28, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 10:38 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Friday 23 September 2005 06:09, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > it would be a good idea to give the user some way of knowing that a > > > package requires some additional purchas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 September 2005 09:53 am, Ervin Nemeth wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Ervin Nemeth wrote: > > | Now let's do the same for xorg-x11, > > > > Ha, good luck trying to pass standard configure options into imake. > > I see, but how about defining ForceNormalLib as NO in host.def? proba

[gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Ervin Nemeth
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ervin Nemeth wrote: > | Now let's do the same for xorg-x11, > > Ha, good luck trying to pass standard configure options into imake. I see, but how about defining ForceNormalLib as NO in host.def? /Ervin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 10:52 +0200, Michael Kohl wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0400 > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and would like the people who can mark stable for x86 to contact us. > > I only have x86 hardware at home and I want to continue stabilising my > packages mys

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 10:38 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 06:09, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > it would be a good idea to give the user some way of knowing that a > > package requires some additional purchased (or otherwise obtained) > > portion that is not a distfile/tarba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 19:04 -0400, Mark Loeser wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | I'm sending this email because I have seen some packages marked stable > > | on x86 without the permission of the x86 team, and woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 23:01 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:57:16 -0400 warnera6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Or just modify the DESCRIPTION field. "Doom3" -> > | DESCRIPTION = " A popular first person shooter. This game requires a > | license key to play." Simple no? >

keeping epatch from aborting (was Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_setup() and sandbox)

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 September 2005 02:57 am, Rumen Yotov wrote: > Still another issue, is there a way to use an "epatch" after which it's > known you'll have an error, which later is fixed by another patch. no, and that behavior will probably never be added to epatch > IMHO it's easier just to fix the p

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_setup() and sandbox

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 22 September 2005 08:47 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > enewuser & friends can be made to > unmask those locations on demand, thus making the transition painless. enew{user,group} already disable/reenable sandbox if required -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 21:08 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 17:52, Michael Kohl wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0400 > > > > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and would like the people who can mark stable for x86 to contact us. > > > > I only have x86 ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 September 2005 04:10 am, Ervin Nemeth wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 22 September 2005 05:23 am, Ervin Németh wrote: > >>For automake packages it is as simple as giving a --disable-static to > >>configure. > > > > you can put 'EXTRA_ECONF=--disable-static' into your /et

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 23 September 2005 05:02 am, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:10:11 +0200 > > Ervin Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you feel the need for a new USE flag? > > There is already a "static" flag, and that's what it actually does > for some packages (most gno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 September 2005 17:52, Michael Kohl wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0400 > > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and would like the people who can mark stable for x86 to contact us. > > I only have x86 hardware at home and I want to continue stabilising my > packages mysel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Philippe Trottier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ervin Nemeth wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>On Thursday 22 September 2005 05:23 am, Ervin Németh wrote: >> >>>For automake packages it is as simple as giving a --disable-static to >>>configure. >> >> >>you can put 'EXTRA_ECONF=--disable-static' in

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-23 Thread Philippe Trottier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Ostrow wrote: > On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:54 +0100, José Carlos Cruz Costa wrote: > >>Hi everybody, >> >>If it's commercial, the company in question should (and must) allow an >>ebuild for is product, like what happens with rpms and other packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I don't intend to maintain these myself (I speak a couple of other > languages well enough to verify that the package works, but I'd rather > not get involved any further), but I'd like to make it easy for > non-Vim-herd peop

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-23 Thread Duncan
Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:44:44 +0900: > There's absolutely no work required on portage to support USE flag > "categories". There's nothing preventing a "/" character from appearing in > a USE flag, hence the support is there already. It's n

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New developer: Chris Lee (labmonkey)

2005-09-23 Thread Duncan
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:25:49 +0200: > On Friday 23 September 2005 08:10, Georgi Georgiev wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophone <--  one of the ones here? > Yeah, thanks Georgi, it was "Homonym" :) Aye... Makes sens

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_setup() and sandbox

2005-09-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 23 September 2005 02:47, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > Disclamer: Exercise great caution with the following link. Only read > one line at a time or you may be overwhelmed. Take a break every 10 > lines or so. Have a sedative handy. > > [1] > http://briandowney.net/?page=linux§ion=gentooebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:10:11 +0200 Ervin Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you feel the need for a new USE flag? There is already a "static" flag, and that's what it actually does for some packages (most gnome-related libs for instance). Side note: i'm not saying it's the perfect solution t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 23 September 2005 10:45, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ervin Nemeth wrote: > | Now let's do the same for xorg-x11, > > Ha, good luck trying to pass standard configure options into imake. I though the 7.0 release of xorg-x11 would be split AND autotooled ;-) Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo De

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Michael Kohl
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and would like the people who can mark stable for x86 to contact us. I only have x86 hardware at home and I want to continue stabilising my packages myself. This would concern the following packages: app-misc/alexandria

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ervin Nemeth wrote: | Now let's do the same for xorg-x11, Ha, good luck trying to pass standard configure options into imake. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDM8ChXVaO67S1rtsRAqtiAJ9HTNKxUKpEJq/O/BAjZ8WkBq510QC

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Summary] GLEP 41: Making Arch Testers official Gentoo Staff

2005-09-23 Thread Duncan
Homer Parker posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:20:15 -0500: > On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 15:55 +0900, Chris White wrote: >> So basically, Simon wants arch testers to become official devs (with >> limited >> restrictions). They've taken the staff quiz already, and he

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking packages stable on x86

2005-09-23 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 06:36:18PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote: > Since the acceptance of GLEP 40 and the creation of the x86 team, any > package maintainers that are not on the x86 team must make arrangements > with the team before marking their packages stable on x86. This is > stated right in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Chris Lee (labmonkey)

2005-09-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 23 September 2005 08:10, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophone <--  one of the ones here? Yeah, thanks Georgi, it was "Homonym" :) -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM

Re: [gentoo-dev] vim spell files

2005-09-23 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Vim 7 includes a native spellchecker. It uses its own spell file > format which can be created using Myspell *.aff/*.dic files (the same > as for Mozilla and OpenOffice). The spell files are rather large, so > it's not feasible to bundle them with vim unconditionally. are

[gentoo-dev] Re: Say no to static libraries!

2005-09-23 Thread Ervin Nemeth
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 22 September 2005 05:23 am, Ervin Németh wrote: >>For automake packages it is as simple as giving a --disable-static to >>configure. > > > you can put 'EXTRA_ECONF=--disable-static' into your /etc/make.conf ... Thanks Mika, it works perfectly! Now let's do th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 September 2005 15:36, Duncan wrote: > OTOH, it's obviously yet /another/ thing for portage devs to work on, and > portage is /supposed/ to be in feature request freeze ATM... I like the > idea, but whether the benefits of putting it on the current feature list > outweigh the costs of

Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:28:35 +0200 Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now as for the USE flag system. It has actually become so big > that it's difficult to use it effectively. I would actually > suggest that a two level system of USE flags could be employed. > Something li