Voting in Committers

2013-09-29 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, This was already discussed on members@ but others in my TLP community are still not satisfied and want a more "public" discussion. I think the main question is whether [1] is a policy document and therefore satisfies the "stated otherwise" clause in this document [2]. The answer I got on memb

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-01 Thread Alex Harui
(Apologies if you get this twice. I'm having email issues) Doug, The thread on members@ was titled "Committer Qualifications". I asked a question about the -1 vote on 9/7/13 and the reply I got was that committer voting does not have vetoes, and the document at [1] also seems to say that. The d

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
ug Cutting" wrote: >On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >> The thread on members@ was titled "Committer Qualifications". I asked a >> question about the -1 vote on 9/7/13 and the reply I got was that >> committer voting does not have vetoes, and th

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/13 10:09 AM, "Doug Cutting" wrote: >On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> To me, agreeing on "the norm" is not the same as policy, especially >>policy >> that does not allow for exceptions. > >I agree. Establishing

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/13 11:11 AM, "Roy T. Fielding" wrote: >On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> On 10/2/13 10:09 AM, "Doug Cutting" wrote: >> >>>In my tour of the internet since my last post and your reply, it does >> appear that most A

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/13 12:58 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> I would like to propose a rewrite of [1] by borrowing heavily from [2] >>but >> making sure to emphasize that projects are allowed to have different >>rul

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/3/13 6:23 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> On 10/2/13 12:58 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > >>> Rather than a "rewrite", I suggest proposing small, incremental, >>>revers

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/3/13 8:48 AM, "Joseph Schaefer" wrote: >Good Lord man all you need to add is a one-sentence >statement that personnel votes are consensus votes not >procedural (simple majority) votes. Hmm. Maybe I'm reaching too far, but my hope was to put in this document a definition of consensus and a

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/3/13 9:51 AM, "Joseph Schaefer" wrote: >The definitions are in a glossary somewhere, the more >we denormalize the locations of our common understandings >the harder it will be to maintain sanity over discussions. OK, found the glossary. I will try to leverage it more in the next revision

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-04 Thread Alex Harui
OK, here is my next offering. The patch form is at [1] Some notes: -This offering has 3 new entries to glossary.html as well. -I was very tempted to move the Veto sections from Voting.html to Glossary and merge the Consensus Gauging through Silence section from Voting into Glossary. -I am also t

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-17 Thread Alex Harui
ine a default set of bylaws so projects don't have to, or have less to decide. -Alex On 10/4/13 11:25 AM, "Doug Cutting" wrote: >On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific thing. >> Howev

Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-08 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, Someday I will get back to improving the Voting and Glossary pages, but meanwhile, the Apache Flex PMC is still trying to construct a set of bylaws and we are currently discussing whether there is a difference between "Majority Approval" which is in the Glossary and "Lazy Majority" which isn'

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-10 Thread Alex Harui
IMO, there are two problems: 1) We're trying to train folks to manage IP for their community but they have to seek approval from folks are aren't as vested in their community. My analogy is telling a new city council member: "Welcome to the city council. For the next year all of your decisions wi

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-10 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/10/13 5:46 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: >A summarized agreement with this thread: > >The bottom line, I think, is that _someone_ has to provide the >supervision that the board delegates to a PMC. > >The virtue of the 'demolish the incubator' proposal is that it makes >that point absolute

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-13 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/13/13 10:14 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > >While a number of people have expressed a preference for the approach of >electing more podling contributors directly onto the IPMC, in practice it >remains uncertain whether the IPMC is capable of identifying, nominating >and >voting in enough c

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/14/13 9:07 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> I still think that having a "Release Auditor" role provides backup for >> getting incubator releases out without having folks have to be on the >>

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/16/13 8:47 AM, "Upayavira" wrote: > > > >Alex, > >I'm not sure I see the difference between a release auditor and an IPMC >member. If someone is sufficiently clued up to audit a release, then >they're surely ready to join the Incubator PMC. Am I missing something? To me, there is more re

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/17/13 3:17 AM, "Upayavira" wrote: > >With a two tier model - with PPMC membership granting voting rights on >podling releases, then a podling would start with just mentors on its >PPMC. If you clearly knew what you were doing, you'd get voted onto the >PPMC pretty quickly, and thus you'd

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/17/13 10:38 AM, "Upayavira" wrote: > >Also, any ASF member can ask to join the Incubator PMC. So, "any ASF >member" can technically review any vote, simply by sending an email to >the Incubator PMC private list - so we have that situation already. I'd >have no issue with members of other

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-21 Thread Alex Harui
FWIW, I've been saying that I might be interested in helping with IP auditing of podling releases, but not in the larger role of IPMC member. You're right that temporary and restricted IPMC membership may be less work, but here's a larger proposal anyway: 1. Establish role of 'IP Auditor' ('Stewa

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-01 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/1/13 4:47 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of >>release >> steps are "optional" when they are required. > >Don't get me wrong -- I would actually prefer to make each PPMC m

Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/11/13 9:51 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > >I'm curious what others think. There's room for us to disagree, since >release >votes do not require consensus... That's the part I've found curious. There's no whistleblower provision for someone who thinks they see something that puts the fou

Re: Question about jar files in svn.

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Harui
My understanding of the link I posted way back is that the source package cannot contain compiled output that will be executed by the customer. IMO, whether it is "external" or not doesn't matter. The JAR used by the Compress tests is hopefully just data, not some part of its functionality. On 12

Re: Question about jar files in svn.

2013-12-20 Thread Alex Harui
I am not an expert, we only graduated a year ago. But I think there are two rules in here: 1) Source archive must not contain compiled source code that is part of the product's functionality. There is leeway on compiled source code processed during testing. I think the board may pull your relea

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Allura from the Incubator

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
Since we're still piling on, I just went to https://forge-allura.apache.org/p/allura/ and was pretty sure I had been redirected to SourceForge. It look and feel of that page looks like all of the other SourceForge projects like the Open@Adobe sites I have visited. I would think that: 1) Apache

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Allura from the Incubator

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
Apache >projects to use as well). > >There shouldn't be any SourceForge branding or references on the Apache >Allura instance, aside from the overall look and feel of the platform >being >similar, since it is in fact the same platform (though SourceForge does >theme Allura

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
I asked this same question not too long ago. The answer I got back was that the PMC voters would have to vote -1 in order to execute their duties as stewards of licenses and IP. Thus folks are not concerned that some core of folks who don't care could somehow get the votes for such a bad release.

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Allura from the Incubator

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/17/14 1:30 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: > >On 03/17/2014 01:05 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >> I'm not a branding expert. Has the Apache VP of Branding approved the >> look? You are correct that the word SourceForge is not on the site, >>but I >> though

Flex IP Clearance

2014-03-25 Thread Alex Harui
Despite having the best mentors one could hope for, it appears the Apache Flex PMC missed one thing, which is that all SGAs needed to go through the IP Clearance process. We did review the IP before it went into the repos, but we did not fill out forms and get approval from Incubator. Adobe has m

Re: [DISCUSS] Where does copyright information go for a binary distribution?

2014-03-26 Thread Alex Harui
Hi James, Welcome to Apache. I wish I could help more, but I mainly wanted to thank you for going through all of this effort to get these files right. I'm learning a lot from this thread, and I am as confused about the right answer as you are. But here's my guess: You are going to create a ver

Nightly Builds from non-ASF Servers

2014-04-20 Thread Alex Harui
The Apache Flex project currently uses builds.a.o and Jenkins to create nightly builds. We are looking into creating a relatively-complex custom CI setup on external servers with lots of different browsers involved in automated testing of the nightly builds. One of our PMC members wants to know i

[IP CLEARANCE] [VOTE] Apache Flex BlazeDS Donation from Adobe

2014-04-21 Thread Alex Harui
Apache Flex received the BlazeDS code base from Adobe. The IP Clearance document will eventually show up here when SVN pub sub comes back up. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearanc e/flex-blazeds.xml Eager folks can probably see the copy in SVN or CMS. Ple

[IP CLEARANCE] [VOTE] Apache Flex-related Donation from Adobe

2014-04-21 Thread Alex Harui
Apache Flex received a donation of a collection of Flex-related website and source code assets from Adobe Systems Inc. More details below. The IP Clearance document will eventually show up here when SVN pub sub comes back up. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-cl

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] [VOTE] Apache Flex BlazeDS Donation from Adobe

2014-04-21 Thread Alex Harui
Thanks for checking. Should be published now. -Alex On 4/21/14 6:27 PM, "Jake Farrell" wrote: >Hey Justin >Alex has not published (or attached) anything to that review so there is >nothing public to be viewable yet > >-Jake > > >On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Justin Mclean >wrote: > >> Hi, >

Re: [DISCUSS] [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Flex BlazeDS Donation from Adobe

2014-04-21 Thread Alex Harui
Good catch. Answer's inline. On 4/21/14 10:07 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >Look good to me there's 2000 odd files that are Apache licensed and no >file licensed in another way. There are a few .txt files missing a >licence header but that's probably not an issue. There are however a >cou

Re: [DISCUSS] [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Flex-related Donation from Adobe

2014-04-21 Thread Alex Harui
Also good catch. Answers in-line. On 4/21/14 10:59 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >This donation contains quite a few binary files (pdfs, gif, jpeg, even a >coueple of mp3s) but not unusual give the native of the donation (mostly >technical documentation and examples). > >There a few files w

[RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] [VOTE] Apache Flex BlazeDS Donation from Adobe

2014-04-24 Thread Alex Harui
No -1 votes were submitted so the code base is cleared for import. Some adjustments were made to the code base as a result of a review of its contents. Thanks -Alex On 4/21/14 10:17 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >Apache Flex received the BlazeDS code base from Adobe. > >The IP

[RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] [VOTE] Apache Flex-related Donation from Adobe

2014-04-24 Thread Alex Harui
No -1 votes were submitted to the code base is cleared for import. Some adjustments were made to the code base as a result of a review of its contents. Thanks -Alex On 4/21/14 10:22 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >Apache Flex received a donation of a collection of Flex-related websit

Re: Reviewing license / notice and bundled software

2014-07-17 Thread Alex Harui
In the "Bundling an AL Font" thread on legal-discuss, sebb said: "It is useful to mention all 3rd party inclusions in the LICENSE file, including ones under AL2.0: - Makes it much easier for the consumer to ensure that the code uses a license with which they are comfortable. - it helps the ASF pro

[IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex

2014-08-21 Thread Alex Harui
Apache Flex received the Radii8 code base from Judah Frangipane. http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/flex-radii8.html Please vote to approve this contribution. Lazy consensus applies. If no -1 votes are cast within the next 72 hours, the vote passes. Thanks, -Alex

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex

2014-08-22 Thread Alex Harui
Good questions, I have asked the grantor about that one source file. Maybe incubator folks with more experience can help answer these questions. 1) Regarding the package matching the grant. The code base granted was not going to pass IP clearance. It needed headers and a proper LICENSE and NOTIC

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex

2014-08-22 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/22/14 12:59 PM, "jan i" wrote: > >In my opinion you did the right thing, but I could not find the process >you >ran through documented. > >I would have liked to see a txt file, documenting >1) that you changed the files, of course with permission >2) which files you removed. > >Having done

Websites, WebApps, and Release Policy

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Incubator Folks, My understanding is that changes to a website like flex.a.o don't require a release vote, even though one could consider and html file pushed to the site as publishing source beyond the group that owns it. But what about web apps? Apache Flex is designed for creating web apps

[CANCEL][IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Harui
Cancelling. Preparing new review based on feedback on this thread. New lazy vote thread out soon. On 8/22/14 4:28 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi > > 2) Regarding icons. The icons in question are common and trivial >(">" > and ">>" for 'more' and 'lots more', down arrow, etc). > >G

[IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex (2nd pass)

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Harui
I have received more information from the grantor and updated the review package. http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/flex-radii8.html The review URL is the same. I removed the old zip of sources and replaced it with the updated package. The updated package has a "2" on the end of its file

Re: Websites, WebApps, and Release Policy

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Justin, Are you addressing me personally or Roman or the incubator in general? -Alex On 8/25/14 3:21 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >The whole point point of the release process is to: >1. Have legal overview by the PMC >2. Engage and involve the community > >Why would we want to avoid e

[RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] Radii8 for Apache Flex (2nd pass)

2014-08-29 Thread Alex Harui
72 hours passed without any objections. The code base has been cleared for Apache Flex repos. Thanks, -Alex On 8/25/14 2:29 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >I have received more information from the grantor and updated the review >package. > >http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clea

Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-25 Thread Alex Harui
I'd like to know: if a code base is donated to Apache under a Software Grant, do most projects grant committer rights to the code authors at the same time or do most projects require that the donors submit patches as other non-committers normally do? Thanks, -Alex ---

Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-25 Thread Alex Harui
In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority voting for new committers? What are the reasons for allowing vetoes? Than

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread Alex Harui
yone you know is >interested (http://aka.ms/msopentechjobs) > >-Original Message- >From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:57 PM >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Code Donations and Committer Righs > >I'd like to kn

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-28 Thread Alex Harui
For more context, there has been only one prior donation from non-committers to Flex and that was completed only 26 days ago. All but one other donation has come from Adobe and are parts of existing Flex products that Adobe provided before the transition to Apache. -Alex On 9/28/14 9:51 AM, "Jus

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-28 Thread Alex Harui
>I¹m also not sure what history you mean. The only donation that I know of >that there was no follow through was the Swiz donation. Also for context: The Swiz folks never submitted the software grant so technically it hasn't been donated. -Alex --

Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, I’m wondering whether modifications to the set of bundled jars in a convenience binary package can be made after release without voting. And if not, I’m looking for any other quick-fix ideas for the following scenario. Flex has many different release packages. One is an SDK called FlexJS 0.

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/20/14, 4:13 PM, "Ted Dunning" wrote: >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> I know we can’t go messing around with source packages without a vote, >>but >> what about binary packages? Is it against policy to do something like >>

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/20/14, 4:57 PM, "Ted Dunning" wrote: >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Justin Mclean >wrote: > >> > 4) you aren't claiming that the artifact you created is an Apache >>release >> > and you are pointing some workshop participants at your release. >> >> My understanding is Alex does want t

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/20/14, 5:54 PM, "Ted Dunning" wrote: > >Why not just roll your own installer that has these additional options? > >Then this is the Acme Software Foundation installer and you can do what >you >like. I suppose we could, but it wouldn’t be easily found by folks who arrive at flex.a.o lookin

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
, if you take the time to make a release nobody can veto it >(although if there are good community reasons to not release you'd be >expected to honor that). > >Ross > >-Original Message- >From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] >Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 4:47

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Harui
ple have verified >the release) you would be good to go, without long debates about policy >and intent ;-) > >Having said that it's always good to clarify things. > >-Original Message- >From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] >Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:4

Re: Convenience Binary Policy

2014-10-21 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/21/14, 5:57 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > >The problem is that we lack a concise policy document. That's where the >"ASF >release policy codification proposal" as worked through on legal-discuss >a few >months ago is supposed to help. > > http://s.apache.org/aGm > https://github.com/r

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 1.0.8-incubating

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Harui
have an EOL. > > [Whether the EOL is LF or CRLF or CR is immaterial to this discussion.] > > Otherwise the files in the SVN tag aren't the same as the files in the > source archive. > "Should" or "must"? Is this a release blocker? [3] http://www.apache.org/dev

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 1.0.8-incubating

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Harui
>> >>>> The first item I cannot understand completely, the second one can be >>>> resolved by adding BSD-like licensed files during build. >>>> >>>> So the question is why do you use non-standa

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 1.0.8-incubating

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Harui
e to say, but I think we are conforming. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-lice nse -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gene

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 1.0.8-incubating

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Harui
sn't have to be called out in the LICENSE file. > > BTW, file paths are incorrect in the LICENSE file. Agreed. But not critical? [5] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#required-third-party-notices -- Alex Harui Flex S

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 1.0.9-incubating

2012-11-07 Thread Alex Harui
g/repos/asf/incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Alex Ha

[VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-21 Thread Alex Harui
] http://markmail.org/message/ps3rjgv76vlw4sh5 [3] http://markmail.org/thread/ej4z47rr3ba532uv [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Graduation+Resolution -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-26 Thread Alex Harui
Is it ok to close this vote? It happened over the long holiday weekend in the US and we only got five total votes, three from our mentors. Thanks, -Alex On 11/22/12 11:57 AM, "Alan Cabrera" wrote: > +1 - binding > > Regards, > Alan > > On Nov 21, 2012, a

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex Podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-27 Thread Alex Harui
resh Marru (IPMC) +1 Christian Grobmeier (IPMC) +1 Benson Marguiles (IPMC) I will send an email to the Board asking to include the resolution in the agenda for the next Board meeting. Vote Thread Message ID: ccd30e35.48e5a%aha...@adobe.com Thanks everyone, -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe System

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Harui
ut the legal stuff to get it right. If there is a grey area, err on the side of caution or ask Apache Legal. Yes, it is painful and slows you down, but usually, the same laws also protect you. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui ---

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Harui
ues are considered 'i' and 't'. IMO, it was a good lesson for our podling to see that we can get delayed by not getting the LICENSE and NOTICE and other files right, so we had proper expectations set for when we became a TLP. And IMO, because IANAL and nobody else in the podli

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Harui
statistical model is, but I would think of it the same way. The binary dist is just supposed to be a pre-compiled version of the source dist. > > Can those be included in the source or binary dist or both? > -- Alex Harui Flex

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/25/13 10:20 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/25/13 8:28 AM, "Chen, Pei" wrote: >> >>> I am actually glad that it is discussed here so that other podl

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Harui
bad. I somehow missed that in the list of tasks to do. Flex should be fixed now. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.o

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/16/13 10:36 AM, "Alan Cabrera" wrote: > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Schaefer >wrote: > >> This is a suggestion that has come up in the past, and the typical >>counter-argument is that this is something the chair needs to provide >>themselves. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >The us

[DRAFT] Apache Flex Podling Exit Interview (if there was such a thing) (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews)

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Harui
First, a disclaimer. This is just my personal take on things and no one else on the Apache Flex PMC was involved in writing this. As the PMC chair of a relatively recently graduated podling, I would like to suggest that if you choose to implement "exit interviews" they should probably be optional

Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, As a newbie, I've generally quietly watched from the sidelines, but now I'm jumping in. +1 about "expectations" vs "rights". In fact, it occurred to me that a booklet or pamphlet more like the "What to expect whenŠ" book would be better. IMO, correctly set expectations make for happier peop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Harui
FWIW, my concerns about an Ombudsman are: 1) I had no idea what an Ombudsman was. I'd heard of it, but never had to work with one before. I had to go look it up. If I had a complaint, I'm not sure I would know to look up that word to find the email address to complain to. 2) If you create a rol

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-21 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/21/13 7:12 AM, "Chip Childers" wrote: >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 08:22:00PM +0100, Upayavira wrote: >> If, for whatever reason, they are unable or >> unwilling to, you can ask on the incubator general list. If the optic is >> too sensitive to discuss in public (eg a potential committer) you

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-21 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/21/13 5:58 AM, "Upayavira" wrote: > > >On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, at 01:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Upayavira wrote: >> >> > As in any such survey, author identity should be optional. Sometimes >>it >> > can be deduced, but not always, and if someone woul

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Alex Harui
Just testing my own knowledge of this stuff: A) isn't it true that if you are not the copyright holder or agent of the copyright holder, you need some sort of paper or email trail giving you permission to move copyrights? B) isn't it true that there are cases where the copyright stays in the file

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-07-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/30/13 12:50 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: >On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >>> ...Bertrand was skeptical about an ASF-wide ombud, but didn't raise >>>any objection >>> to an Incubator-specific po

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-07-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 7/30/13 5:05 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >Bertrand, Christian, Alex, > >On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> people should feel >> free to contact people that they trust (IPMC members, mentors, ASF >> members) privately if there's a need, and not having someone

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-08-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/2/13 9:36 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier >wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >> I think either the Champion or the Chair should do it. I have a slight >> preference for the chair. >> The champion is alrea

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-08-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/5/13 8:05 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> On 8/2/13 9:36 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >>>On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 2

[PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-19 Thread Alex Harui
Hi everyone, I would like to propose Flex to be an Apache Incubator project. Here's a link to the proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal Thank you, Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-19 Thread Alex Harui
reate a project within Apache and use the "Apache Way" to decide. > > It's exciting to see Adobe's willingness to contribute Flex to the ASF. > > Raju Bitter > Software Architect & Open Source Evangelist > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I woul

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Alex Harui
ty representation on the initial > committers list". > > Alex, does that work for you? > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Alex Harui
I don't think there is much to stop someone else from creating their own SWF player. So while the current reality is that these SWFs only run in Adobe-owned players, I don't think there is a technical reason for it. > > Raju > >> Hi everyone, >&g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Alex Harui
n principle it would be > really useful to itemise these items so that we know what we are > dealing with. > > Ross > > On 20 December 2011 09:02, Leo Simons wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >>> I would like to propose Flex

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-21 Thread Alex Harui
the Falcon topic, but it might be easier for > you to reach out to Greg or Danny directly to see what the status is. > If Falcon would be contributed to Apache before the work has been > finished, that should be included in the proposal. > > Best, > Raju > > 2011/12/21

Re: Flex status

2012-03-12 Thread Alex Harui
ct has to take down SVN for others. And of course, the question of disk space on the server. Similar for JIRA instances. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Revised Flex Podling Report for April

2012-04-05 Thread Alex Harui
Hello, Per advice from our Mentors, I have edited the text in the “how can incubation run more smoothly” section of the Flex report for April. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 1:58 PM, "Greg Reddin" wrote: > Hi Incubator, > > See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. > > I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the > full situation is. Perhaps Alex can clarify i

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
y source for convenience. Major modifications/additions to third-party should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis by the PMC." [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html The Adobe legal team and Roy both agreed that

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
ement when acquiring Jeff and his company was such that Adobe retained his company's copyright in the headers of those files. Otherwise, the headers would have copyright to Adobe and would have just changed them. Thanks, -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/ah

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
ally an Adobe issue. Adobe does not own the copyright to the files in question and therefore cannot agree to moving it, but Adobe did have permission to donate the code. The individual involved is willing to allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how formal the perm

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/8/12 11:36 AM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > On Jun 8, 2012 2:33 PM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >>> >>> The individual involved is willing to >>> allow the copyright to be moved,

Re: RAT status page gone?

2012-06-10 Thread Alex Harui
t; Perhaps Robert deleted it by accident when doing graduation tidy up. > > Anyway i tried editing that page source and podlings.xml hoping > that the CMS would regenerate it. No. > > Can someone help? > I think Rat became Creadur [1]. [1] http://creadur.apache.org/ --

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/20/15, 5:27 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: >It is generally AL code all the time. I don't know where you invented a >'kick-in' concept, but unless the committers are violating their >ICLA/CCLA, >nothing could be further from the truth. Committers sometimes make mistakes. IIRC, Justin re

Re: Question related to IP Clearance and software grant

2015-09-01 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/1/15, 7:16 AM, "Emmanuel Lécharny" wrote: >Hi guys, > >is a code donation require a software grant signed from the employer of >the people who wrote the code ? In other words, do we require that the >employer explicitely allow the employees to work on some code ? > >M understanding is that

Re: [NOTICE] corinthia PPMC+committer -= dortef, franz, gbg, ianc, jani, louis, pmkelly

2015-09-07 Thread Alex Harui
Apologies if I’m way off base here as I’m not familiar with Corinthia or QT Editor. If Corinthia were to develop the web-based editor mentioned upthread and make that the preferred/recommended editor for the project, does that make the QT Editor optional enough for Apache? Apache Flex is a UI To

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