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On 12/20/11 12:30 PM, "Raju Bitter" <rajubit...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > re-reading the proposal, a few other questions came to my mind: > > 1) Flash Player SDK > What are you referring to, when listing the "Adobe Flash Player SDK" > under "External Dependencies". The Adobe website says: > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_sdk/ > "Sorry, page not available", and then: >> As of October 1, 2007, the Macromedia® Flash® Player 7 SDK will no >> longer be available. The migration path for the Flash Player 7 SDK >> is Adobe® Flash Lite 3. >> The Adobe Flash Lite 3 runtime provides mobile and consumer electronics >> device manufacturers the ability to deliver the most engaging mobile >> experiences across devices. > Does the Flash Player SDK still exist as a product? I guess not. The main thing we need is a file called playerglobal.swc which is on the FlashPlayer downloads page. I had seen it referenced as the Flash Player SDK at one time, but it looks like that is no longer true. I will double-check and then update the proposal. > > 2) Action Script Virtual Machine (AVM) > In November 2006 Adobe open source the Flash Player Script engine: > http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/press/mozilla-2006-11-07.html > Is the source code of Tamarin still the current version of the Action > Script Virtual Machine in Flash Player 11? If there is a new version of > the AVM (2+), will that be contributed to the Apache Software Foundation > as well? > > It doesn't really make sense to only contribute a compiler, if there is > no open source implementation of a runtime/scripting engine available, > but that might only be my personal view. If the community would decide > to create a an open standards based runtime for Flex, would that mean > the community would have to start from zero? This proposal is about Adobe Flex which is separate from Tamarin. And separate from the future of Tamarin. I cannot speak to anything related to Tamarin. > > 3) Commercial support for Apache Flex > Does Adobe plan to offer support for an Apache Flex product? If yes, > what kind of support would be planned. I read somewhere that Adobe will > not offer any support for Flex 4.6+ to new customers, but I'm not sure, > if that's still the current plan. Adobe is not currently planning to offer support for Flex released from Apache, but that could change. > > 4) Flash Player > Are there any plans to open source a stripped-down version of Flash > Player, e.g. the discontinued version of Flash Player for mobile) in the > future (similar to the pure open source Flex SDK vs. the commercial > SDK)? The Apache community could continue working on a browser-based > mobile runtime for Apache Flex, if that was the case. This proposal is about Adobe Flex which, while it runs in the Flash Player, is separate from the Flash Player. I cannot speak to any plans related to the Flash Player. > > I hope I don't sound to skeptical here, but Adobe Flex is quite > different from most Apache projects I've been in contact with. It's a > powerful compiler with an interesting language, but it looks like the > output of the compiler can only be used with Adobe-owned proprietary > software at the moment. This proposal is about Adobe Flex which in my mind is largely the ActionScript source code that forms a framework that enables folks to easily and quickly produce useful applications. The compiler source we are donating in this proposal is actually being superceded by a whole new compiler code base in a project at Adobe called Falcon that will likely be donated to Apache later. Given that Tamarin is open source and the SWF file format is public, I don't think there is much to stop someone else from creating their own SWF player. So while the current reality is that these SWFs only run in Adobe-owned players, I don't think there is a technical reason for it. > > Raju > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I would like to propose Flex to be an Apache Incubator project. >> >> Here's a link to the proposal: >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal >> >> Thank you, >> >> Alex Harui >> Flex SDK Team >> Adobe Systems, Inc. >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
