On 11/10/13 5:46 AM, "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>A summarized agreement with this thread: > >The bottom line, I think, is that _someone_ has to provide the >supervision that the board delegates to a PMC. > >The virtue of the 'demolish the incubator' proposal is that it makes >that point absolutely clear. If there were no incubator, the board >would need to see three people whom it could trust to form the initial >core of the project. The board has reiterated that it wants the IPMC >to manage the bootstrap to a state: a PMC that the board can delegate >to. What's the fastest path to that state? > >If you look at it this way, then you could look at Mentors in a >slightly different light. They have two critical jobs at the outset: >(a) detailed IP supervision until members of the podling community >know what to do, and (b) get the members of the podling community up >to speed as fast as possible. > >(c) then becomes: get those people onto the IPMC. That's the only tool >the incubator has from the board, so the incubator should just use it. I guess the problem I have with that is, during my days in incubation, I would have been hesitant to accept membership in the IPMC. I still don't want to be a member of the IPMC. It comes with greater obligations. IOW, why do I need to be approved as a candidate for state office if I just want to be on my town council? > >Once (c) is accomplished, the podling doesn't necessarily graduate. It >is prudent to continue with some IPMC supervision for a bit, to look >out for various bears. > >One could hope that this schema is a near-complete solution to vote >problems. The _first_ release benefits from mentors who signed up to >be there and vote, and subsequent releases have votes from inside the >group. I should have provided a more concise summary in my write-up. It is: 1) Establish the role of "Release Auditor" in the Incubator. 2) Incubating releases need 3 votes from Release Auditors 3) Any current or former TLP PMC member is automatically a Release Auditor 4) Podling members can be approved as a Release Auditor by vote of the IPMC. 5) Release Auditors check the process and legal aspects of a release and are not required to build and test the release package. 6) Can we build an Ant script that does the grunt work of preparing a report for release auditing? Thanks, -Alex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org