Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

2006-02-03 Thread Alan Cabrera
I going to blame our lawyers for this. (That's my story and I'm stickn' to it! :) Let's pause this thread and level set on this after Jim confirms the faxes that I sent today and I update the pages that Noel has pointed out. Regards, Alan --Original Message-- From: Noel J. Bergman

Re: ApacheCon Denver CFP

2014-01-25 Thread Alan Cabrera
There was a question on a podling as to whether developers on podlings could submit proposals about their project. Can they or can’t they? Regards, Alan On Jan 24, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Hi everyone, > >> ApacheCon Denver will take place April 7-9, 2014. The call-for-p

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-01 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Matei Zaharia wrote: > The Apache Spark community has VOTEd to graduate from the Apache incubator > (vote thread: http://s.apache.org/kq, discussion > thread:http://s.apache.org/aEQ). > > I’m now calling an official IPMC VOTE to make this happen

Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-08 Thread Alan Cabrera
Do you think it would be helpful if we had a tool that generated these files? It could work like a command line wizard that prompts the person for licensing information and then generates a valid disclaimer, notice, etc. files. If this is a good idea, what files should we generate? Currently,

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
n 8 February 2014 16:49, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Do you think it would be helpful if we had a tool that generated these >> files? It could work like a command line wizard that prompts the person for >> licensing information and then generates a valid disclaimer, notice, etc. &g

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
: On Feb 8, 2014, at 7:42 PM, sebb wrote: > On 8 February 2014 16:49, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Do you think it would be helpful if we had a tool that generated these >> files? It could work like a command line wizard that prompts the person for >> licensing information and t

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:42 PM, sebb wrote: > >>> WDYT? >> >> Non-trivial; maintaining the meta-data needed to accurately generate >> the NOTICE file is likely to require more effort than writing the >> NOTICE file itself. >> > > > Actually

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Do you think it would be helpful if we had a tool that generated these >> files? It could work like a command line wizard that prompts the person for >> licensing

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Chris Mattmann wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > This is a new VOTE to decide if Apache Spark should graduate > from the Incubator. Please VOTE on the resolution pasted below > the ballot. I'll leave this VOTE open for at least 72 hours. > > Tha

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > >>> One thing I think we could use is a tool which parses mbox archives in >>> people.apache.org:/home/apmail/ and generates statistics: >>> >

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Olingo from the Incubator

2014-03-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
All the binding votes made at Onlingo’s original graduation vote carry over to this one but I’ll still add my +1 - binding Regards, Alan On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:17 AM, Florian Müller wrote: > Hi all, > > The Apache Olingo community has VOTEd to graduate from the incubator [1][2]. > > Apache

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Olingo from the Incubator

2014-03-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
P Apache Olingo) > > > > > On 17.03.14 10:27, "Florian Müller" wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The vote has passed with three binding +1 votes, no +0, and no -1 >> votes. >> >> +1 votes: >> >> * Dave Fisher >&g

Re: [VOTE] Accept Brooklyn into the Incubator

2014-04-28 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Apr 28, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > Based on the previous discussion of accepting Brooklyn into the Apache > Incubator as a podling, I'd like to call a vote for this now. > > [ ] +1 Accept Brooklyn into the Incubator > [ ] +/-0 Indifferent to the acc

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-05-03 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On May 1, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Suresh Marru wrote: > Please VOTE to indicate if Apache Stratos is ready to graduate as a Top Level > Project. The board resolution is included below. > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP > [ ] +0 Don't care. > [ ] -1 Don't gradu

Re: [VOTE] Accept Optiq into the incubator

2014-05-12 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On May 9, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote: > [ ] +1 Accept Optiq into the Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Stratosphere > [ ] -1 Do not accept Optiq because ...

Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

2014-06-14 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Jun 13, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > Hi all, > > Per recent discussions on general@[1] and s4-dev@ [2], I went ahead and > called for a VOTE on the S4 dev@ mailing list [3] about retiring the > podling. That VOTE has passed with no -1s and 4 (binding

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Storm 0.9.2-incubating

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
I'm looking at the release vote result and I'm seeing only one binding vote from a IPMC member. Am I comparing the vote results against the wrong IPMC roster? http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc Regards, Alan P.S. Apologies if this is a duplicate email. On Jun

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Leonidas Fegaras wrote: > Hello, > This is a call for a vote on Apache MRQL 0.9.2 incubating. > Apache MRQL is a query processing and optimization system for > large-scale, distributed data analysis, built on top of Apache Hadoop, > Apac

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Storm 0.9.2-incubating

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
There are some Thrift generated files that don't seem to have the AL prepended. I'm not sure if that's important since the files were automatically generated; imo, it's not. +1 binding Regards, Alan On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:37 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > This is a call for a vote to release

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Storm 0.9.2-incubating

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
needs one more IPMC member's vote. Regards, Alan On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > Alan, > > That was the result of the PPMC vote on the dev@ list. Arvind is a mentor. > > -Taylor > >> On Jun 22, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Celix as Top Level Project

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Jun 19, 2014, at 7:26 AM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote: > Hi All, > > Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working > towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and > new committers have been added. > Over the las

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Storm 0.9.2-incubating

2014-06-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > If I counted correctly, this release has one from the earlier vote plus mine. > I think it needs one more IPMC member's vote. NM, I just read Marvin's email about the new release process that I was unaware of. :) Regards, Alan

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache MRQL 0.9.2 incubating (RC2)

2014-06-25 Thread Alan Cabrera
Awesome! Thanks!! We need just one more vote! Regards, Alan On Jun 25, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > +1 binding > > I checked: > - vote looks good > - incubating in artefact name > - signatures and hashes all good > - DISCLAIMER good > - NOTICE and LICENSE correct > - al

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Tez from Apache Incubator to TLP

2014-07-01 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Hitesh Shah wrote: > Hello folks > > Tez entered incubation in February, 2013. Since then, we have made progress > towards graduation[1]. The Tez community recently voted positively towards > graduation[2] with 27 +1s. > Of the 27, the

Re: Wiki Access

2014-07-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jul 10, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Nick Burch wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Svante Schubert >>> Can somebody please give me (user svanteschubert) access to the Wiki >> >> Anyone? > > Karma granted. > > (I guess everyone else was like me and off on

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Kafka podling from Incubator

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
+0 Indifferent to the graduation status of Kafka podling > [ ] -1 Reject graduation of Kafka podling from Apache Incubator because ... > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Please find the > proposed board resolution below. As part of the community vote, IPMC members > Ala

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Syncope podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:00 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: > Hi all, > this is a call for vote to graduate the Syncope podling from Apache > Incubator. > > Syncope entered the Incubator in Feb 2012. Since then it has added two > new committers and PPMC members, picked up a coup

Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December

2012-11-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 4, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me > as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board will decline > the suggestion, it doesn't seem too terribly presumptuous to start looking > ahead. > >

Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December

2012-11-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 I like the idea. We'll obviously need to update our docs. Regards, Alan On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > acting as a mentor that was never my understanding. if the result of > this thread is to clarify this point, fine. > > On Nov 4, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Ross Gardler wr

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] Hadoop Development Tools

2012-11-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Adam Berry wrote: > Hello, > > This proposal has been open for discussion for a a few weeks, so now > submitting for a vote for this project to be accepted into the incubator. > > Cheers, > Adam Berry > > = HDT (Hadoop Development Tools

Re: [VOTE] Accept Onami proposal in the Incubator

2012-11-12 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Nov 11, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > I am submitting a proposal that has been open for discussion for some > days (with the former name of Mayhem), so now submitting for a vote > for this project to be accepted into the incubator. >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > Apache Nuvem will define an open application programming interface > for common cloud application services, allowing applications to be > easily ported across the most popular cloud platforms. It is > currently com

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Flex podling from Apache > Incubator. > > Apache Flex entered the Incubator in December of 2011. We have made > significant progress with the project since moving over to

[VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-25 Thread Alan Cabrera
Hi, The Chukwa community has voted to retire the project. Following the retirement guide [1], I now call the Incubator PMC to vote on confirming this decision. [ ] +1 Retire the Chukwa project [ ] -1 Do not retire the project, because ... [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.h

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Wink from Incubator

2012-11-25 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - bindinf congrats! Regards, Alan On Nov 25, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Graduate Wink podling from Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Wink > [ ] -1 Reject graduation of Wink podling from Incubator because ... --

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Actually there is activity. Only in September 2 new committers joined. > Looking at SVN, there is activity too: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/chukwa/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/chukwa/ > > Unfortunately the most acti

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 25, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Eric Yang wrote: > Hi IPMC, > > For the past two years, Chukwa has been labelled as non-active project by > mentors, and has been put on votes for retiring this project by mentor and > IPMC. > In this year's stats, Chukwa has more activities in comparison to Apache >

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:16 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Jukka Zitting > wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >>> The Chukwa community has voted to retire the project. >> >> -1 The community vote [1] w

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > I wonder which steps were taken by mentors, community and pmc to foster a > community. I want to learn something from this case. Thanks. When we had our first retirement discussion early this year it was the consensus that we would wait until

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's not much >> activity and expressed an interested in simply keeping it ar

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> As I mentioned in an earlier email, we did have this conversation seven >> months ago. We came to a consensus to give it another try. We even added >&

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
t; On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >>> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's not much >>> activity and expressed an interested in simpl

Re: How to grow podling communities

2012-11-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
I wonder if we can ask that incubation proposals include how they intend to get the message out there. What channels are relevant for the project? I guess what are their marketing plans. Eventually, we'd have a collection of old incubation proposals that new podlings could use to garner ideas

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
The more the merrier! :) Regards, Alan On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:50 PM, ant elder wrote: > Great to hear, one month seemed too short to accomplish so much. I'd be > happy to volunteer as another mentor if some fresh eyes will help. > > ...ant > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 a

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Eric Yang wrote: > Apache is a non-profit organization. If we restrict our thinking model to > metrics of how many developers, and how many patches are committed in > pre-defeined time limit. There is no software that is gong to succeed in > this evaluation other t

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:55 PM, ant elder wrote: > I'd hope we can demonstrate finding consensus rather than using the vote to > resolve this. > > I still think forced retirement doesn't seem the right thing in this case > so my -1 stands. In the other thread Alan now seems open to giving them > a

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, ant elder wrote: >> ...I still think forced retirement doesn't seem the right thing in this case >> so my -1 stands. In the other thread Alan now seems open to giving them >> another try, i've offered to

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> If people who -1 the retirement agree to mentor Chukwa to give it >> another chance, like you seem to be ready to do, I have no problem >> with that. > > As usual a -1

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Bernd Fondermann < > bernd.fonderm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Jukka Zitting >> wrote: >> This is exactly what we did for the last months (years, actually).

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:57 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>> If people who -1 the retirement agree to mentor Chukwa to give it >>> another chance, like you seem to be re

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, ant elder wrote: >> I'd hope we can demonstrate finding consensus rather than using the vote to >> resolve this. >> >> I still think forced retirement doesn't seem the right thing in this case >> so my -1 s

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
Benson, I will remind the IPMC that seven months ago the specter of retirement was raised. A lengthy discussion ensued. Consensus was garnered. We even added committers with the hopes of infusing new energy into the project. Sometimes, you just can't get ultimate consensus on retirement and

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:13 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> I will accept the voting result from IPMC, >> and I wish IPMC would use better human sense to enable future project to >> flourish. > > This sounds like you're frustrated with your mentors. I'm sorry for > that and take part of the responsi

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> ...I will remind the IPMC that seven months ago the specter of retirement >> was raised. A lengthy discussion ensued. >> Consensus was garnered. We even adde

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > What is described above is exactly what mentors should be doing in an > informal way. What Alan says happened below is what is proposed above. > > I've not been following the project and can't agree or disagree with > Alan's interpretation of ev

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>> ...URLs? My brain's too small to remember all these discussions ;-) >> >> It'

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:16 AM, ant elder wrote: > Unless there are compelling reason to stop, i.e continuing breaches of > basic ASF polices and principles, then where possible letting a poddling > continue incubation or just graduate seems better to me than making them go > elsewhere. Its not like

Re: What constitute a successful project?

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
I am not intransigent but am willing to discuss all manner of things? I would focus more on the Chukwa project and not spend so much time on comparing it to other projects nor making ugly innuendoes. Look around you. You are surrounded by a community who wants to help. Regards, Alan &g

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cabrera
I've been giving this some thought and I've worked hard at keeping it short and sweet. So finer points are left out but I hope they are obvious. What does ASF's Imprimatur mean? Does it mean that project is diverse and vibrant? No. Does it mean that the project's committers and PMC members

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> ...I'm wondering if it makes sense to do away with the diversity and vibrant >> dictum and merely state that at least one person is reasonably active and &g

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > TLPs do, sometimes, retire. Some of them have retired precisely > because all the contributors disappeared due to seismic events at > work. The board has been observed to keep a TLP alive really to the > last possible moment -- the point wher

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: > > [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Marmotta > [ ] -1 Do not accept the Marmotta pro

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 29 November 2012 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote: >>> ...What difference does it make to >>> the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?... >> >> IMO, as long as there's three or

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement? >> What constitutes active?... > > IMO the bare minimum is being able to find thre

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 29 November 2012 14:59, Alan Cabrera wrote: > >> >> On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera >> wrote: >>>> ... Woul

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
t of viability, we're may > bump into the absurd. > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote: >> On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera >>> wrote: >>>>

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-30 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 30, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> Hence my idea to do away with the rule of thumb and stick to at least one >> responsible PMC member > > How will that work? IIUC your idea, the resulting

Re: Actively seeking for organic mentors

2012-12-02 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Dec 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > By 'organic mentor', I mean a PPMC member who, while not an ASF > member, has shown the necessary engagement and understanding to > qualify as an IPMC member, and thus mentor and release voter. > > PPMC members who are also active in TLP comm

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-03 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Dec 1, 2012, at 10:50 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > Please VOTE over the next 72 hours on the resolution below: > > [ ] +1 Graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator per the resolution below. > [ ] +0 Don't care. > [ ] -1 Don't graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator be

Wrapping it up: Retirement decision making

2012-12-09 Thread Alan Cabrera
If no one minds I think it would be a good idea for the docs to be updated with our new common understanding. What I propose is for for a wiki page with the new wording to be created for us to comment/vote on. I'm happy to consolidate the current thinking on this. Also, I'm too lazy to troll

wiki privs

2012-12-18 Thread Alan Cabrera
I don't seem to have the privs to add a page to the Incubator wiki; I wanted to write up the new proposed change to the retirement procedures. Should I just usurp http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings? Regards, Alan

Re: wiki privs

2012-12-18 Thread Alan Cabrera
2012 at 5:02 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> I don't seem to have the privs to add a page to the Incubator wiki; I wanted >> to write up the new proposed change to the retirement procedures. Should I >> just usurp http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPo

Re: wiki privs

2012-12-18 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Dec 18, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> AlanCabrera >> >> Do I do that or does someone need to do this for me? If the former, where >> do I do that? > > You're already there on the Co

Re: [VOTE] retire photark

2012-12-20 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Having received no traffic on the discussion thread, and in particular > no traffic at all from the PPMC, I hereby call a vote to retire > photark. > > [+1] > >

[DISCUSS] Amendment to podling retirement document

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
For your comments http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlingsProposed I basically stole Ross' comments and injected them into the top of the original document. I have a few questions. Do we leave it vague as to the number of mentors needed? Do we state that you cannot be a mentor if yo

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:41 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > after PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12 resolution, it's finally time to vote the > graduation resolution and to establish Apache Oltu as TLP, after a > period at ASF incubator since 2010-06-01 as Apache Amber. > The PPM

Re: [DISCUSS] Amendment to podling retirement document

2012-12-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:09 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Alan Cabrera wrote: >> For your comments >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlingsProposed >> >> I basically stole Ross' comments and injected them into the top of the >> origina

Re: First attempt at January2013 report template

2013-01-09 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for > January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else) > notice missing signoffs and reports. > > Of course, it uses the clutch as of today. > > Would folk

Re: Chukwa - Shepherds Report

2013-01-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > I see from late November discussions about Ant and Jukka becoming new Mentors > for Chukwa. > > I see a VOTE for retirement with one voter continuing afterwards. > > Retirement? After a long discussion and a bit of tuning with regard

Mesos - Shepherd's report

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
No report filed. No mentor interaction to get report out. With that said, the project seems pretty active. I'm wondering why they haven't graduated yet. With that said, the project needs more than one mentor, IMHO. Regards, Alan

Streams - Shepherd's report

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
Relatively new podling. Seems nice and active. I noticed that not all the mentors have signed off on the podling report. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional command

Re: Mesos - Shepherd's report

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Cabrera
as also a lot of work > done on the slave/worker component of the system to enable upgrading Mesos > without killing all tasks/processes that it is managing. See > https://reviews.apache.org/dashboard/?view=to-group&group=mesos. > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Alan Cabrera wr

Re: Mesos - Shepherd's report

2013-01-14 Thread Alan Cabrera
en wrote. Thanks Ben! > Also, thanks Alan for your friendly nudge. > > Andy > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > >> Sure! I'll add it this morning. >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jan 11, 2013,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tajo into the Apache Incubator

2013-02-28 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Feb 28, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Hyunsik Choi wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Tajo into the Apache incubator. > The vote will close on Mar 7 at 6:00 PM (PST). > > [] +1 Accept Tajo into the Apache incubator > [] +0 Don't care. > [] -1 Don't accept

Re: [VOTE] Accept Provisionr into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 - binding Regards, Alan On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Andrei Savu wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Provisionr into the Apache > Incubator. > > The vote will close on March 8. > > [] +1 Accept Provisionr into the Apache incubator > [] +0 Don't care. > [] -1 Don

Re: [VOTE] Graduate CloudStack from Incubator

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > Apache CloudStack entered the Incubator in April of 2012. We have made > significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache. > > We have 31 committers and 13 PPMC members listed on our status page at

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of EasyAnt into Ant

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
Edward, You are not a member of the IPMC and so your vote is not binding. Regards, Alan On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:30 PM, edward yoon wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On 3/14/2013 12:30 AM, Matt Franklin wrote: >> +1 (binding) >> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Nicolas Lalevée >> wrote: >>> Hi, >

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of EasyAnt into Ant

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Nicolas Lalevée wrote: > Hi, > > The EasyAnt community would like to graduate as an subproject of Ant. > > The Ant PMC has just accepted: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ant-dev/201303.mbox/%3CBD5DB6B8-13BC-421F-800C-CE6CB21D7B

Re: Joining IPMC member

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Suresh Marru wrote: > As you might know, generally speaking for PMC's merit is not transferable. > But IPMC has one exception any member of the foundation can simply ask to be > added (it still goes through the normal workflow of board acknowledgement and > such,

Re: [INVALID][RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-26 Thread Alan Cabrera
Let's move the podling chatter to the dev list. :) Regards, Alan On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:55 PM, "Edward J. Yoon" wrote: > Thanks Ant. > > Could you please also create commits@ list for wiki/source commit > mails? The submit button of the web form doesn't change from Disabled. > > On Thu, Mar 2

Re: [VOTE] recommend Apache DeltaSpike for graduating out of the incubator

2013-04-01 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Mar 30, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi! > > The Apache DeltaSpike podling is a project which contains common CDI > Extensions which are portable among many different Java EE containers and > even run on standalone CDI containers. > > We are now incubating

[PROPOSAL] TL;DR editors

2013-04-09 Thread Alan Cabrera
The amount of email on this list has grown beyond ridiculousness. I propose a new required process on this list whereby anyone who starts a new thread is required to diligently monitor it and post a summary at the end. The person would assume an editor role for that thread. [SUMMARY] Incubator

Re: Bulldozing (was TL;DR editors)

2013-04-09 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > IMO, it's time to enshrine this advice from Doug on the "email tips" page at > : > >http://markmail.org/message/viluvkt6x2dhj4iv Ahh, if only that advice that was given over a year ago w

Re: [VOTE] Accept jclouds into the Apache Incubator

2013-04-23 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Rebecca Wood wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am calling a VOTE for acceptance of jclouds into the Apache Incubator. > > The vote will close on Monday, April 29, 2013. > > [ ] +1 Accept jclouds into the Apache Incubator. > [ ] +0 Don't care. > [ ] -1 Don't accept jc

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-06 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 5, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt. > > In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if > those discussions drove some of us to distraction. > > A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote: > > htt

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. Regards, Alan On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Folks, > > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > Ambari > Blur > DeltaSpike (hasn't

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> ...Let's get rid of champions and shepherds and hold the mentors to their >> responsibilities > > The problem with mentors is when you have 5 of th

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from > Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would > effectively be a "TLP on probation". The Champion, Mentors, and Board > would be providing oversight. > > I woul

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> >> On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >>> On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from >>> Incubat

If I were king of the forest

2013-05-08 Thread Alan Cabrera
If I were king of the forest, I would be to fire all the mentors. All except, of course, me, because I'm the king. :) All the ex-mentors would become emeritus mentors that can be reinstated merely by asking. Those emeritus mentors who wish to remain mentors must acknowledge that they will per

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