Re: release votes - should there be a minimum number of days that the vote is open for?

2023-07-02 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, In general you should wait a minimum of 3 days, but if there an urgent security fix then that can be ignored. 3 days gives people in different time zones or who don’t work full time on the project a chance to respond and be involved in the project. A lot of releases taken more than 3 days.

Re: release votes - should there be a minimum number of days that the vote is open for?

2023-07-01 Thread PJ Fanning
Thanks Hans for the link. I knew there was a 3 day requirement, I just wasn't sure where it was documented. I looked at the general list again and I was incorrect. The votes seem to always adhere to the 3 day rule. On 2023/07/01 11:45:49 hans.van.akel...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi PJ, > > If we loo

Re: release votes - should there be a minimum number of days that the vote is open for?

2023-07-01 Thread hans . van . akelyen
Hi PJ, If we look at the Release policy it states that it SHOULD remain open for at least 72 hours [1]. In case we are talking about an emergency release/patch the 72 hours rule can be ignored. Cheers, Hans [1] https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval On 1 Jul 2023 at

release votes - should there be a minimum number of days that the vote is open for?

2023-07-01 Thread PJ Fanning
Hi everyone, I'll go with the flow on this but I've noticed that some release votes specify details about some minimum number of days that the thread will be open for. Some other vote threads do not specify a time line and are liable to lead to an announcement of a result as soon

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-27 Thread Matt Sicker
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 07:43, David P Grove wrote: > > Or in the case of the current OpenWhisk podling voting thread [1], our only > mentor has already voted +1, but after a week we still need two more IPMC > votes to be able to proceed. > > Please help > As of sometime over the past day or so,

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-27 Thread Mick Semb Wever
Craig, replies inline, > Apologies if these comments cross other discussions. It's hard to keep > track of all the threads that have forked from the original discussion. I'm struggling to keep up too :-/ > This is really sad, because in most of these cases the mentors have not > voted. And

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-27 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> On the one side we have lengthy discussions about non-mentors from > resisting to interfere, but on the other hand podlings are begging for > such "interference". > Guess there are always two sides of the discussion. I politely disagree with you Chris. What I raised was that cold interfere

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread sebb
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 20:01, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Kevin, > > Can you explain what checking you did to justify your vote? > > This is important so that others can know what has already been done. IMO the +1 ought to be added to the vote thread, not here. > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:02 AM K

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread Ted Dunning
Kevin, Can you explain what checking you did to justify your vote? This is important so that others can know what has already been done. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:02 AM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 2/26/2019 8:20 AM, David P Grove wrote: > > > > Or in the case of the current OpenWhisk podli

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 2/26/2019 8:20 AM, David P Grove wrote: > > Or in the case of the current OpenWhisk podling voting thread [1], our only > mentor has already voted +1, but after a week we still need two more IPMC > votes to be able to proceed. > > Please help > Sorry, I was not aware of that issue.  I'm monit

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hmmm ... this is really odd ... On the one side we have lengthy discussions about non-mentors from resisting to interfere, but on the other hand podlings are begging for such "interference". Guess there are always two sides of the discussion. And I have to admit that for a short time I was hesit

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread ???? Sheng Wu
"general"; Subject: Re: Incubator release votes Craig Russell wrote on 02/25/2019 09:15:56 PM: > > To me, the biggest issue with incubating releases has been lack of > engagement by mentors for release voting. Many examples from history > have podlings begging for some

Re: Incubator release votes

2019-02-26 Thread David P Grove
Craig Russell wrote on 02/25/2019 09:15:56 PM: > > To me, the biggest issue with incubating releases has been lack of > engagement by mentors for release voting. Many examples from history > have podlings begging for someone, anyone, to review a release that > has already received review in th

Incubator release votes

2019-02-25 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Mick, I appreciate your taking time to document what you have experienced in the incubator. Apologies if these comments cross other discussions. It's hard to keep track of all the threads that have forked from the original discussion. > On Feb 24, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: >

Re: Clarification/typo on release votes (Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tamaya 0.3-incubating)

2017-06-15 Thread Jim Apple
The third condition is implied by the second one. I do not believe the second condition is implied by "Votes on whether a package is ready to be released use majority approval -- i.e., at least three PMC members must vote affirmatively for release, and there must be more positive than negative vot

Re: Clarification/typo on release votes (Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tamaya 0.3-incubating)

2017-06-15 Thread John D. Ament
Gah, this is what I was trying to convey. But I don't think it's still 100% correct. You need a minimum of 3 +1's Your net positive votes must be 3 (e.g. if you have a -1 and 5 total votes, the other 4 votes must be +1's) You need more +1's than -1's I'm not sure what is written better. (trying

Clarification/typo on release votes (Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tamaya 0.3-incubating)

2017-06-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 6/15/17 1:11 PM, Oliver B. Fischer wrote: Please note: This vote is a "majority approval" with a minimum of three +1 votes and no -1’s (see [4]). Just wanted to point out that your description of majority approval is wrong. You need at least 3 +1's and more +1's than -1's. -1's are not v

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:48 AM, sebb wrote: > On 19 March 2014 15:05, Mark Struberg wrote: >> what has been with the rule that an ipmc must forward the VOTE to the >> incubator pmc when it gets started, and those members can also cast a >> binding -1 ? > > IPMC votes are the only ones that are b

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-19 Thread sebb
not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at >>> the incubator may provide me some insight. >>> >>> Right now, release votes cannot be veto'd. This seems like an >>> oversight IMHO. If a release candidate is visibly wrong (e.g. bad >>>

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-19 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi all, >> >> While not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at >> the incubator may provide me some insight. >> >> Right now, release votes cannot be veto'd.  This seems like an >> oversight IMHO.  If a release candidate is visibly wrong (e

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-17 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Hi all, > > While not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at > the incubator may provide me some insight. > > Right now, release votes cannot be veto'd. This seems like an > oversight IMHO.

Re: Process question on release votes

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
lease. That's a little too trusting for me, but I'm relatively new hereŠ -Alex On 3/17/14 10:10 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: >Hi all, > >While not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at >the incubator may provide me some insight. > >Right

Process question on release votes

2014-03-17 Thread John D. Ament
Hi all, While not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at the incubator may provide me some insight. Right now, release votes cannot be veto'd. This seems like an oversight IMHO. If a release candidate is visibly wrong (e.g. bad licenses, or something else), surel

Re: Release votes

2006-06-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/4/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:17:46AM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: > > Let's write a piece of software to do the auditing for us. > > How do you propose to do this? How do you propose to audit the code and > know which pieces of

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/3/06, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/2/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the idea of automation. > > What would be even more helpful would be a default Apache project > setup, with a maven release target that builds a release in the right > format. > > If

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/2/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (this is a rant and the beginnings of a proposal which has nothing to do in particular with James, ActiveMQ, or its release) There must be. All these little rules and policies and practices (written or unwritten) seem like they could be some

Re: Release votes

2006-06-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:17:46AM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: > > Let's write a piece of software to do the auditing for us. > > How do you propose to do this? How do you propose to audit the code and > know which pieces of code require which license and whether or not that

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-03 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On 6/2/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like the idea of automation. What would be even more helpful would be a default Apache project setup, with a maven release target that builds a release in the right format. If the project structure started out with LICENSE, NOTICE, JAR targ

Re: Release votes

2006-06-02 Thread Hiram Chirino
Cliff has been doing so. Frankly, I suspect that many ASF projects need to clean up their releases to conform with the currently solidifying ASF-wide guidelines, but the Incubator PMC is more aware of them, and more diligent in applying them. From the perspective of being involved in one of

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-02 Thread Hiram Chirino
Agreed. Any tools that help incubating projects get off to the right start we be a good start. Even if it's just a check list that has all the things that have been found to be missing before in previous attempted releases would be a great idea. On 6/2/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-02 Thread Paul Fremantle
I like the idea of automation. What would be even more helpful would be a default Apache project setup, with a maven release target that builds a release in the right format. If the project structure started out with LICENSE, NOTICE, JAR targets that put those in META-INF, places to put auxiliar

Re: Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Leo Simons wrote: (this is a rant and the beginnings of a proposal which has nothing to do in particular with James, ActiveMQ, or its release) On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 01:11:35PM +0100, James Strachan wrote: In accordance with the incubator release procedure (see

RE: Release votes

2006-06-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo Simons wrote: > People are doing stuff, trying to comply with all kinds of policies, > and then instead of self-governing they have to go ask permission. > When you need to ask for it, you're not self-governing. Self-governance is a learned behavior, and one of the things that the Incubator

Release votes (was: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve ActiveMQ 4.0 Release)

2006-06-02 Thread Leo Simons
(this is a rant and the beginnings of a proposal which has nothing to do in particular with James, ActiveMQ, or its release) On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 01:11:35PM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > In accordance with the incubator release procedure (see below) the > ActiveMQ community has voted on and ap