On 6/2/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(this is a rant and the beginnings of a proposal which has nothing to do in particular with James, ActiveMQ, or its release)
<snip> There must be. All these little rules and policies and practices (written
or unwritten) seem like they could be somehow codified. Lets do so.
codification is on my ApacheCon TODO list Let's write a piece of software to do the auditing for us. Let's write it
in java as a commandline tool spitting out a choice of text-based or XML-based reports. Let's wrap the tool in an ant task, and in a maven2 plugin. People and projects can start using the tool without us changing any of the process, and once it works well enough these kinds of "permission emails" will all become the pure formalities they should be ("please approve that you trust that I used the tool correctly and that the tool can also be trusted, btw here is the output"), and we can even start thinking about changing this @#$^&% process! Questions: * anyone think it can't work? Anyone think its a good idea?
IMO there are two distinct and separate issues here: 1 the major issue we have with release distribution oversight not scaling as the ASF scales. it's not just podlings that we need to worry about - it's every project. i agree that this needs an automated solution. i've been wondering about using SVN as a staging ground and with clever pre and post commit scripts. probably need to move this to infrastructure or wait till ApacheCon... 2 the social aspect (pmc ping) - i think that jim's covered this reasonably well.
* where's the sandbox where we can work on this thing together? (I'm quite willing to mentor a new incubation podling :-)) * who is willing to spend a day of their ApacheCon EU hackathon working on this?
i'll be around and planned to work on incubator related codification and documentation. - robert