+1 binding
With Noel's email, this vote makes sense now. Next time please do not
piggyback a vote off of an existing thread. Thanks!
Regards,
Alan
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a
+1
Noel, thanks for your service for the past many years.
Craig
On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
+1
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zit
+1 (non-binding)
BR
Andreas Lehmkühler
Am 09.02.2012 16:16, schrieb Mattmann, Chris A (388J):
Hi Folks,
OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
running
have aligned beyond the follow
+1 (non-binding)
Antonio
On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:29 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>> [X] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
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> > [X] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
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+1
With all three other candidates having checked it, sure looks like
we found consensus!
> [X] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> In the interest of moving the current discussion matters forward, please VOTE
> on this recommendation to the board by the IPMC. I'll leave the VOTE open
> for at least the next 72 hours:
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend Jukka Zittin
-1 to the poor way this vote was conducted and your response to
peoples concerns.
+1 for Jukka as the new chair.
Niall
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks
On 02/09/2012 09:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
[ ] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
[ ] +0 Don't care.
[ ] -1 Don't recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position because...
+1 binding
-
+1
regards,
Karl
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> ...I
>> have no issue with standing down after 8 years, and Jukka is an excellent
>> and active successor. I was exceedingly pleased to see his message th
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zit
+1.
Raymond Feng
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligne
+1
Dan
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:16:25 AM Mattmann, Chris A wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running have aligned beyond the following nominee
+ 1 (non-binding)
Suresh
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
>> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
>> running
>> have aligned beyo
With that explanation, I vote: +1
On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies
>>> wrote:
+1 (binding)
>>>
>>> +1 (bi
+1
And thanks a lot Noel!
Greetings, Marcel
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+1
>-Original Message-
>From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) [mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov]
>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:16 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for
>Incubator PMC Chair)
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zi
+1 for Jukka and +1000 thanks to Noel.
Martijn
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> +1
>
> --- Noel
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>
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> ...I
> have no issue with standing down after 8 years, and Jukka is an excellent
> and active successor. I was exceedingly pleased to see his message that he
> had reconsidered...
Thanks Noel for the clarification.
+1 for Jukka then!
-B
+1 (binding)
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 16:16, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nomine
[X] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
(binding)
Go Jukka !!!
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Thanks many times Noel!
This also makes (for me) voting for Jukka again a proper process.
I'm therefore reconfirming my earlier retracted vote for Jukka, +1
Ate
On 02/10/2012 03:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining f
+1
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On Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (in
Thank you Noel.
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On Feb 10, 2012 2:32 AM, "Noel J. Bergman" wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
>
> > I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks
> > (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the
>
With Noel's email, this vote makes sense now.
+1 to Jukka (binding)
Cheers,
Andrus
On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including m
+1 to Jukka Zitting! (non-binding)
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> +1 to Jukka. Many Many Thanks to Noel for guiding us all these years.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>>
>>> I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it look
+1 to Jukka. Many Many Thanks to Noel for guiding us all these years.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>> I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks
>> (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the
>> follow
Ross Gardler wrote:
> I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks
> (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the
> following nominee:" Where is the mail from Noel saying he is no longer
> standing? Have I missed something?
There wasn't one. I was trave
+1
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>>> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above
>> effectively turned thi
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>>> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above
>> effectively turned thi
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On Feb 9, 2012 7:27 PM, "Doug Cutting" wrote:
>
> On 02/09/2012 08:39 AM, sebb wrote:
> > In case it's not obvious, I agree with Ross, Andrus and Marcel - I
> > think the current VOTE thread is invalid and should be cancelled.
>
> I do
On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> +1 (binding)
>
> +1 (binding)
>
>> From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above
> effectively turned this into a single issue question: is now the time
> for Noah to be
On 02/09/2012 08:39 AM, sebb wrote:
> In case it's not obvious, I agree with Ross, Andrus and Marcel - I
> think the current VOTE thread is invalid and should be cancelled.
I don't see how it is invalid. Chris might have added more choices or
invited more discussion first, but he can call a vote.
+1
Doug
On 02/09/2012 07:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka
eneral@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for
> Incubator PMC Chair)
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> +1 (binding)
>
> +1 (bin
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> +1 (binding)
+1 (binding)
>From my perspective, Chris's proposal and Benson's vote above
effectively turned this into a single issue question: is now the time
for Noah to be replaced by Jukka?
There are no question that all four individ
On 2/9/2012 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> (1) Why is the IPMC different from other PMCs and holding a personnel VOTEs
> on a public ML?
Just to clarify this single issue; by rights, adding committers and
committee members is a personal issue about those individuals. But
choosing a represent
I have observations
(1) Why is the IPMC different from other PMCs and holding a personnel VOTEs on
a public ML?
(2) Why is there such a hurry to call a [VOTE] without a prior [DISCUSS]?
(3) Why can't Chris start new threads by using New Message rather than a reply
to a prior thread with a sub
On 2/9/2012 10:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates
>> and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd.
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
> I suggest that this VO
On 9 February 2012 17:11, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
>> On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>
On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>>
On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
> On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>>
Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all
On 02/09/2012 05:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates and
see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate
On 02/09/2012 05:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
...I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election,
with all candidates be done...
Agreed - I think Chris assumed there was only one candidate, but it's
just an assumption AFAICS
On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates
>> and see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd.
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
> I suggest tha
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> ...I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election,
> with all candidates be done...
Agreed - I think Chris assumed there was only one candidate, but it's
just an assumption AFAICS.
-Bertrand
-
On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
> Well, if there's an election, the fair thing is to include all candidates and
> see who gets the majority. A vote on just one candidate is odd.
>
Agreed.
I suggest that this VOTE be withdrawn, and a true election,
with all candidates b
On 9 February 2012 16:32, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 17:10 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ross,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair.
>>> If this VOTE isn't successful, then
On Feb 9, 2012, at 17:10 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair.
>> If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If
>> you want to explicitly cal
+1 (binding)
Thanks,
Paul
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the fo
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Ross,
>
> Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair.
> If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If
> you want to explicitly call a VOTE for Noel, go ahead, but
> this is the VOTE I am int
Hi Ross,
Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair.
If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If
you want to explicitly call a VOTE for Noel, go ahead, but
this is the VOTE I am interested in calling, thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Ro
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> [ ] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position.
+1 Greg
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+1 (binding)
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Michael McCandless
wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Mike McCandless
>
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time
I'm ready to vote, but Chris said "it looks like the remaining folks
(including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the
following nominee:" Where is the mail from Noel saying he is no longer
standing? Have I missed something?
Ross
On 9 February 2012 15:39, Ate Douma wrote:
> +1 (bin
+1 (binding)
Mike McCandless
http://blog.mikemccandless.com
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
+1 (binding)
Ate
On 02/09/2012 04:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hi Folks,
OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
running
have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zi
+1 binding.
Thanks for putting up this vote Chris
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
>
+1 (binding)
Ralph
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:16 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the foll
+1 (binding)
Tommaso
2012/2/9 Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in
> the running
> have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zitting. Su
+1 (binding)
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
> chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
> running
> have aligned beyond the following nom
Hi Folks,
OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC
chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including me) that were in the
running
have aligned beyond the following nominee: Jukka Zitting. Suffice to say, he
was
*my first choice* :)
In the interest of mo
I am happy to step out of the way for Jukka. He was clever enough to
stay out of the email s*** storm, and that alone, in my mind, renders
him most qualified.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> I already mentioned that I would have nominated you, and so I am
> delighted
I already mentioned that I would have nominated you, and so I am
delighted to read your message. It will be very difficult to choose
between all these strong candidates.
Cheers
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After consideration and some convincing (thanks!), I've
Hi,
After consideration and some convincing (thanks!), I've decided to
throw also my hat into the ring as a candidate to be the next chairman
of the IPMC.
I believe in that role I could be more effective in focusing more of
our collective attention at where I think it would do most good - at
the
Jim, I think you have expressed my concerns perfectly.
Mentors care for the podlings. Someone has to care for the mentors.
Not all mentors need help, not all podlings need help. We should provide
*support* all the way down for when it is needed. We should not confuse
interference with support.
G
On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> [...snip...]
>>>
>>> So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and
>>> a good chance they are here now, and reading this.
>>>
>>> What do Board me
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On Feb 4, 2012 5:50 AM, "William A. Rowe Jr." wrote:
>
> On 2/3/2012 8:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> > Lets not forget that the model referred to *included* the IPMC. The
> > IPMC once had a useful function, it was a safety net for fled
On 2/3/2012 8:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Lets not forget that the model referred to *included* the IPMC. The
> IPMC once had a useful function, it was a safety net for fledgling
> communities.
The IPMC never served that purpose. Projects were scuttled even in
its first year.
The IPMC served to
On 4 February 2012 01:47, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <
>> chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
...
> if you'll recall Jim's message
> to the members in the past 2 years about "intern
Hi Ross,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <
> chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>
>>> On
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
> The incubator had demonstrated that relying on mentors is not always
> sufficient. The incubator has failed in it's guidance rule. It has turned
> to oversight and interference. Your proposal, in it's current form, will
> remove the interferenc
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On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> > wrote:
> >> ...
On 02/02/2012 09:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board
> hats on? Great too. Would be great to get opinions now
> rather than have to wait.
I like the simplicity of erasing the layer of management that is the
Incubator.
The board is a
On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:24 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/3/2012 8:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>
>>> [...snippage...]
>>>
>>> I just don't think it is realistic to imagine that in 60 days from
>>> some near-term board meeting, we can set up this new plan, debug it,
>>> and transition the exist
On 2/3/2012 8:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
>> setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
>> the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for
Hey Sam,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What I care most about is
>>> addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
>>> which feedback
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>
>> What I care most about is
>> addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
>> which feedback can be directed for each report.
>
> Sure, I get that now. I'm +1 t
Hi Jim,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> [...snip...]
>>
>> So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and
>> a good chance they are here now, and reading this.
>>
>> What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board
>> hats on? Great too. Would be gr
Hi Sam,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
>>> that there should be an Incubation VP, are yo
Hi Benson,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
> setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
> the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
> tearing down the e
Hi Greg,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> wrote:
>> ...
>> And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
>> that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
>> try it my way, and then if all
Hi Daniel,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 20:20:26 -0800:
>> Thanks Christian.
>>
>> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
>> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
>>
>> I will not
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
> setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
> the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
> tearing down the existing
On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc
>
> Shane [check]
> Doug [check]
> Roy [no]
> Jim [check]
> Brett [check]
> Larry [no]
> Sam [check]
> Greg [check]
>
> So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> wrote:
>>...
>> And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
>> that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
>> try it my way, and then if all hell b
It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
tearing down the existing incubator. All of this looks to me like more
than 2 months.
A tr
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
>...
> And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
> that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
> try it my way, and then if all hell breaks loose, simply add the role
> in 6 months (or sooner,
Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 20:20:26 -0800:
> Thanks Christian.
>
> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
>
> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
> I don'
Hi Bill,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> Thanks Christian.
>>
>> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
>> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
>>
>> I will note that shoul
Hey Bill,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>>
>>> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
>>> analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-)
>>
>> :) Nope, it doesn't actu
On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>
>> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
>> analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-)
>
> :) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is
> what is being suggested
Hi Noel,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Chris,
>
>> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
>> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
>> much longer.
>
> I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to hi
On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Thanks Christian.
>
> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
>
> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
> I don't intend to be in
Chris,
> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
> much longer.
I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to him that I'd like for
you and he to already start working on the re-org pro
Thanks Christian.
I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
much longer. Should
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman
> I will leave my hat in the ring ...
But as others will have noted, if the proposed re-organization is to move
forward, I personally recommend Bill Rowe for the role, or Chris Mattman if
Bill won't take it. That new Incubator will
Based on the current discussions for radically redefining the Incubator, I
propose William A Rowe, Jr. for the new Incubator PMC Chair.
Between Bill and Chris Mattman, they are the leading forces behind the
proposed re-org, and I feel that, Bill would be the more experienced choice,
and hope that
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