On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > The incubator had demonstrated that relying on mentors is not always > sufficient. The incubator has failed in it's guidance rule. It has turned > to oversight and interference. Your proposal, in it's current form, will > remove the interference but will not revive the guidance. > > The ASF is not just a place to host open source. It is a community > learning how to do community is hard. The incubator was created to help > that learning. Your proposal, as it stands will remove the interference but > will not revive the learning.
This was precisely my reaction but you have said it much better. > >>> The Board has enough to do without trying to >>> *also* verify release processes, check on podling branding and press, >>> etc. >> >> You guys don't do that for projects, why would you do it in this case? > > TLPs are self governing, podling TLPs could be, but your proposal assumes > they alwats will be, from day one. Yet the incubator demonstrates mentors > often fail in this regard. I am not involved in a single poddling that can > mystery three binding votes on a release today. The IPMC fills the gap, but > it also generates interference. Your proposal, as it stands, will remove > the interference but will not maintain the necessary oversight. +1 Ralph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
