Hi Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> Thanks Christian. >> >> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and >> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others. >> >> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that >> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist >> much longer. Should I be elected I will immediately move to >> a proposal/resolution phase and recommendation to the board >> to dissolve the Incubator PMC, and to ratify the elements of my >> proposal. >> >> I realize that Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'm optimistic >> that it can be built not longer after that. > > I'm happy to support you in that effort, even as an assistant chair > (and I'd decline Noel's nomination, thanks though for the thought). > +1 thanks you have been really helping to lead a great discussion and I would welcome your support. > I think once it's proposed the board will make clear why the position > still needs to be filled, even if they accept such a radical rethinking > of the process. I think you would make a good choice on both sides of > the transition, once there is a clear scope for the other side of the > tunnel. Yep no worries. If they do, great. I realize that I'm proposing some pretty radical stuff here. But I think it's actionable and will improve the foundation and that the board will see that. > > I'm happy to help with some of the structure of the incubating-project > resolutions, but my time is a bit too limited to handle the copy and > paste between situations. Thinking that the gist of the transition be > considered and nominally approved or denied by the board in February, > and that in the succeeding three months, those project up for reporting > with three+ accountable mentors be put forward as incubating projects > (unless ready for graduation). Between now and the consideration of > those first projects in March, the structure of incubator.a.o would > need to be altered slighly. Yep, agreed. I'm hoping that each of the podling committees that would transition to TLP during this time could pick up a shovel and help dig the hole(s). I will also help. > > By June, we are left with a handful of projects which simply don't have > mentors or participants to propel them even to the stage of being a TLP > under incubation. And that month would be the logical point to refer > them to the Attic if their IP is clean, or discard them altogether if > resources can't be mustered. It's a long ways off, so lots of time to > intervene between now and then. +1. Bingo. Precisely. Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org