Hi Bill, 

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

> On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> Thanks Christian.
>> 
>> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and 
>> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
>> 
>> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that 
>> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
>> much longer. Should I be elected I will immediately move to 
>> a proposal/resolution phase and recommendation to the board
>> to dissolve the Incubator PMC, and to ratify the elements of my
>> proposal.
>> 
>> I realize that Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'm optimistic
>> that it can be built not longer after that.
> 
> I'm happy to support you in that effort, even as an assistant chair
> (and I'd decline Noel's nomination, thanks though for the thought).
> 

+1 thanks you have been really helping to lead a great discussion
and I would welcome your support.

> I think once it's proposed the board will make clear why the position
> still needs to be filled, even if they accept such a radical rethinking
> of the process.  I think you would make a good choice on both sides of
> the transition, once there is a clear scope for the other side of the
> tunnel.

Yep no worries. If they do, great. I realize that I'm proposing some 
pretty radical stuff here. But I think it's actionable and will improve
the foundation and that the board will see that. 

> 
> I'm happy to help with some of the structure of the incubating-project
> resolutions, but my time is a bit too limited to handle the copy and
> paste between situations.  Thinking that the gist of the transition be
> considered and nominally approved or denied by the board in February,
> and that in the succeeding three months, those project up for reporting
> with three+ accountable mentors be put forward as incubating projects
> (unless ready for graduation).  Between now and the consideration of
> those first projects in March, the structure of incubator.a.o would
> need to be altered slighly.

Yep, agreed. I'm hoping that each of the podling committees that
would transition to TLP during this time could pick up a shovel and
help dig the hole(s). I will also help.
> 
> By June, we are left with a handful of projects which simply don't have
> mentors or participants to propel them even to the stage of being a TLP
> under incubation.  And that month would be the logical point to refer
> them to the Attic if their IP is clean, or discard them altogether if
> resources can't be mustered.  It's a long ways off, so lots of time to
> intervene between now and then.

+1. Bingo. Precisely.

Cheers,
Chris

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Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
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University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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