Hey Sam, On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> >> >>> What I care most about is >>> addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to >>> which feedback can be directed for each report. >> >> Sure, I get that now. I'm +1 to be that person > > I think that what I intended to say and what you seem to have heard > are two different things. Don't worry, I'm in agreement. :-) > > Current process: individual PPMCs produce reports. IPMC chair bundles > and forwards. Board reviews, provides comments to IPMC chair. For > whatever reason, this has not been effective in closing the loop. > > Proposed process (as I understand it): PPMCs produce reports. Board > reviews, provides comments to PPMC chair. That does seem to me to be > much more likely to be an effective process. Yep, you got it. That's what I was trying to say. > >>> First, having the board vote on the creation of each podling is a bit >>> too heavy weight. I for one would prefer that that continue to be >>> delegated. >> >> How about to the membership of the ASF? Take it to members@? > > <humor mode='dry'> > I've yet to see members@ be a productive way to get a crisp > resolution on ANYTHING in a finite period of time. > </humor> Heh. <hope mode='on'> <humor mode='dry'> I've yet to see members@ be a productive way to get a crisp resolution on ANYTHING in a finite period of time. </humor> </hope> > >>> Second, the board is not the appropriate vehicle for fine tuning / >>> micro-managing individual projects, much less podlings. A podling >>> that consistently fails to report or fails to address issues >>> identified by the board should expect one or more of: a new chair, >>> people added or removed from the committee, of for the committee to be >>> dissolved entirely. Having a supportive resource (whether that >>> resource goes by the name of 'incubator' or 'comdev', I care not) >>> remains important. >> >> Yes, totally, I agree with that too. In fact, I'll admit that your recent >> prodding of better IPMC reports helped me crystalize that notion. > > Hmm. I'm wondering if I should be offended. :-P Hehe, I tell my friends: you want your sports team to lose? Have Mattmann VOTE for them! :) Except for USC of course. We're on the upswing! Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
