Yep, I agree with that. And if that's the choice, the two codebases
should be merged ASAP too. The more we wait, the more painful the
merging will be. I wouldn't like having to throw away half of
Twister's code in the process...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 03:14:23 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTEC
On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:43 PM, Paul Russell wrote:
Guys,
On 26 Oct 2004, at 09:02, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Very practically, what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
Not sure if one is required. I don't think solving the TLP problem
is a goo
Guys,
On 26 Oct 2004, at 09:02, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Very practically, what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
Not sure if one is required. I don't think solving the TLP problem is
a good idea now because we're going to learn a lot mor
On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Very practically, what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
Not sure if one is required. I don't think solving the TLP problem is
a good idea now because we're going to learn a lot more as time goes
on. I'm optimistic that we'll go that wa
Very practically, what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
Matthieu.
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:59:17 -0500, Aleksander Slominski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i agree that TLP is very important and very good for visibility that
> apache has now place for workflows but i look on it more like um
i agree that TLP is very important and very good for visibility that
apache has now place for workflows but i look on it more like umbrella
TLP with many subprojects? the reason for this is that i have a
different opinion about BPEL.
i think there is a clear need *now* for apache-licensed BPEL
+1 for one project (then we'll see what happends :)
-- dims
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:21:33 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Paul Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > I'm /so/ +1 for this (the TLP bit -- you /know/ I'm +1 the rest of it
> > too!) it's making me late
"Paul Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I'm /so/ +1 for this (the TLP bit -- you /know/ I'm +1 the rest of it
> too!) it's making me late for work! My day job involves working for a
> large enterprise (the largest insurer in the UK). To large
> organisations like that, visibility is ever
Guys,
On 22 Oct 2004, at 02:13, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Oct 21, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
"Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I think that bringing the two concepts together - workflow and WS
orchestration - would be a great goal :)
So as a co-author of BPEL I hav
Geir, I absolutely agree with your point that this would be a stronger
community and a better software stack if we could bring all together
into one project. And that was exactly the point of my initial
proposal. I was just expressing the fact that a web-service (WSDL and
XML messaging) based engin
On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:41 PM, Uijin Hong (홍의진) wrote:
I hope to see Agila(or Apache-BPM-engine)
could run both BPEL and WS-CDL.
+1!
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:20:09 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
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>
> However, I think there's room in the WS project for an effort
> focused purely on implementing BPEL. BPEL is a key component of
> the WS-* stack and I for one would be happy to see a pure BPEL
> effort in Apache
On Oct 21, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
"Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The goal is to do BPM, not specifically BPEL. BPEL support is
certainly welcome, but should be a part of the overall project, not
the
dominant focus. There's more to BPM than BPEL :)
Absolutel
"Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The goal is to do BPM, not specifically BPEL. BPEL support is
> certainly welcome, but should be a part of the overall project, not the
> dominant focus. There's more to BPM than BPEL :)
Absolutely :).
However, I think there's room in the WS
com/confluence/display/twister/2004/
08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL
alek
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From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and A
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila
Hello,
I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More
can be found about Twister here:
http://www.smartcomps.org/twister
I'm sending
at
> code with Apache Agila ?
>
> Andreas
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM
> Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila
&
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM
> Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. Mo
etc. stuff? Do
> > >you support non-SOAP bindings? (BPWS4J used WSIF, for example.)
> > >
> > >
> > i think Mathieu is already aware of this but current WSIF needs upgrade ...
> > http://smartcomps.kgbinternet.com/confluence/display/twister/2004/08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL
I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that
code with Apache Agila ?
Andreas
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From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Proposition:
ade ...
> http://smartcomps.kgbinternet.com/confluence/display/twister/2004/08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL
>
> alek
>
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wed
en Agila and the Axis community
> yet. Dims and I can easily support/facilitate that!
>
> Matthieu- how does Twister do its SOAP, WSDL etc. stuff? Do
> you support non-SOAP bindings? (BPWS4J used WSIF, for example.)
>
> Sanjiva.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
"Aleksander Slominski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i think Mathieu is already aware of this but current WSIF needs upgrade
...
>
http://smartcomps.kgbinternet.com/confluence/display/twister/2004/08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL
>
> alek
Excellent! Indeed WSIF needs an upgrade .. I'm hoping
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila
This is great. We're really interested in getting BPEL into Agila.
I'll take a look.
We originally decided to not go
IF, for example.)
Sanjiva.
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From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila
> This is great. We're really in
On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:03 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
I'm going to have a closer look at Agila to see how Twister can fit
here. Is there anything I should look at beside the Subversion
repository?
Twister's engine core is somewhat tied to WS-BPEL. Our approach was a
bit different, we didn't try to buil
I'm going to have a closer look at Agila to see how Twister can fit
here. Is there anything I should look at beside the Subversion
repository?
Twister's engine core is somewhat tied to WS-BPEL. Our approach was a
bit different, we didn't try to build a meta-model or anything too
generic. Our plan
+1 from me. Sounds like a good fit.
-- dims
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:52:44 +0200, Matthieu Riou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More
> can be found about Twister here:
>
> http://www.smartcomps.org/twister
>
> I'm sending
This is great. We're really interested in getting BPEL into Agila.
I'll take a look.
We originally decided to not go w/ BPEL as the core language, as we
wanted to support all kinds of activities in a workflow, being able to
make a workflow that mixes them. So it was planned that we'd get BPE
Hello,
I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More
can be found about Twister here:
http://www.smartcomps.org/twister
I'm sending this e-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache
Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe
that Twiste
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